Barca fan in 'We don't get any calls' shocker.
Champions League Quarter-finals (second leg)
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Barca fan in 'We don't get any calls' shocker.
If Ref gives Barcelona a soft penalty, he will most probably return the favour for Milan. With players like Mascherano around, it may come back to haunt Barcelona.
I want a good game, hopefully going to extra time and penalties. Couple of red cards won't be bad either
It cannot go into extra time / penos.
shut up
Right....and you've all kind of proven my point there.
Its ridiculous to suggest Barcelona get all the decisions, just as it is to suggest that Man utd get all the decisions. Surprisingly enough, these kinds of accusations tend to come from supporters of teams which aren't as good as the team apparently getting all the decisions.
For Man utd, you'll all pull out the time Newcastle got a penalty etc or the fact that a team that does as much attacking as you will surely get more decisions. Quite why these kinds of justifications suddenly disappear when talking about Barcelona I'm not quite sure.
And my personal favourite....these things even themselves out!
Its ridiculous to suggest Barcelona get all the decisions, just as it is to suggest that Man utd get all the decisions. Surprisingly enough, these kinds of accusations tend to come from supporters of teams which aren't as good as the team apparently getting all the decisions.
For Man utd, you'll all pull out the time Newcastle got a penalty etc or the fact that a team that does as much attacking as you will surely get more decisions. Quite why these kinds of justifications suddenly disappear when talking about Barcelona I'm not quite sure.
And my personal favourite....these things even themselves out!
But I don't see what that has to do with Nesta. If Barcelona are cheating, the referee should punish them. What you described sounds illegal, for sure, but Nesta shouldn't be pulling his man's shirt at a corner. End of.
It was extremely stupid and risky at this level.It's become a bad habit for many defenders to pull the attackers' shirt inside the penalty box but they shouldn't be surprised when a penalty is given
It's a gross inconsistency on the referees part.
If Ref gives Barcelona a soft penalty, he will most probably return the favour for Milan. With players like Mascherano around, it may come back to haunt Barcelona.
I want a good game, hopefully going to extra time and penalties. Couple of red cards won't be bad either
Not likely, he's favoured them in a lot of calls this evening in my opinion.
It's not limited to one referee though...Shirt tugging is a pk, just like the one in Milan last week...Consistency is preferred, no doubt
So no one remembers the decision that went against barca in the first leg??
That is true, but the ref has to ref the whole game, not just certain inceidents.
as the undertaker said this had to remain pure but it did not sadly. lets carry on with the second half.
Sorry, but someone has to ask.
How do Barcelona get favourable decisions when they were denied 2 clear penalties and 2 clear chances at an away goal in italy?
How do Barcelona get favourable decisions when they were denied 2 clear penalties and 2 clear chances at an away goal in italy?
Keown saying that every time he played against Nesta, he did the same thing to him. Big Martin accusing someone else of shirt pulling is quite amusing.
Well yes and it's standard practice for most teams not just Barcelona. Nesta's desperate shirt-pulling compensating for his declining physical attributes. As Souness says, his starting position was poor - a yard away from where he should have been. The sensible thing for the ref would have been to blow up to retake the corner and nip both things in the bud.
Seriously just saw the replay of second peno, that was a right decision. Not the referee's fault if they are not given due to inconsistencies.
Again, decisions happen, but tonight's first 45 minutes have been poor officiating, what previous decisions have to do with that I have no idea. I support neither of these sides.
Shut the feck up yourself. I dont believe in these conspiracy theories but the outcry against them is fan talk - it doesnt effect what happens on the pitch. Whats happening on the pitch with the barca players swamping the ref at every decision is more relevant.
Barca do go down easily but the way they play especially at home is conducive to drawing fouls in and around the area.
The referee isn't showing balls. He is not what Sir Alex would call a strong referee. Gets influenced heavily by Barcelona and their fans.
One example is the Xavi foul on a Milan player right after the penalty. Should've been a yellow for Xavi since he basicly had a stretched leg and studs first, yet nothing, not even a talking to.
And also, whether you think it was a penalty or not, Nesta's defending was complete shit for that corner.
The conspiracy theorists will be out in full force tonight.
I agree. My point was that Nesta was an idiot for trying it. I don't think Barcelona's indiscretions are an excuse, especially when Nesta is quite capable of defending a corner, you'd have thought. In fairness, perhaps Barcelona's obstructive tactics are hard to defend against in those situations.
its better than Barca fans moaning keep on keep after the match though so for that I thank the ref, he must be a user on redcafe.
This wasn't a pen for one simple reason. Nesta held Busquets yes but Busquets also held Nesta. Why is Nesta at fault and not Busquets? They are both fouling.
Ref can see Nesta's holding but not Busquets because he's holding the front of Nesta's shirt and Nesta has his back turned to him.
Then we have Puyol who's only trying to foul. He's got his back turned to the corner and is the reason both Nesta and Busquets fall over.
Ref can see Nesta's holding but not Busquets because he's holding the front of Nesta's shirt and Nesta has his back turned to him.
Then we have Puyol who's only trying to foul. He's got his back turned to the corner and is the reason both Nesta and Busquets fall over.
Newly promoted 2nd division club got 2 pks called for them at Camp Nou just a few weeks ago...Love to know how often that happens to the biggest clubs in Europe
Anyone who thinks it's anything more than a ref having a poor 45 minutes is a fecking idiot.
And it was poor, and favoured the home team. Shit happens, but that doesn't mean it's a Frederick Forsyth novel.
People are talking about conspiracy theories here thats why I'm saying it. 1st one was clear penalty, second could have gone either way.
cant think of one wrong decision by ref, except a throw in given to milan
Shouldn't have been a penalty unless he warned the players before hand. These things happen all the time but don't get punished. It's the inconsistency which is the problem. Either it is a penalty or not, all the time.
Has anyone ever scored a hatrick consisting of penalties?
Again, what relvance is that to a ref having a poor 45 tonight. Anyone who thinks it's deeper needs to stop watching the 'sport'. I know I would, as what would be the point?
Both were penalties . However the ref will have to be consistent with regard to shirt tugging in the box now.
lighten up!
Exactly that. That was one of many shirt pulls penalised in that half, which is not fair, no matter who you support or how put upon one thinks one is.
that was more then a tug, he had a huge fist full of shirt and wasnt letting go
I want milan to progress, read the first page that doesn't mean I have to believe these theories.
Like I said last week when Barça were denied 3 pks in Milan, it has happened all season - a pk called in their favor has to be irrefutable even by the standards of those who are coloured by bias...They're supposed to be too good to need a pk called for them