friendlytramp should be one of the contenders in the next Complete Mental Obliteration thread.
Shinji Kagawa | Signs for Manchester United
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Wait, did you literally mean that he hadn't drawn his lines wide enough?
What a bellend.
Classic.In all seriousness though FriendlyTramp, there is so much wrong with your formation I don't know where to begin.
In all seriousness though FriendlyTramp, there is so much wrong with your formation I don't know where to begin.
How about starting with the fact that he put a player in that doesn't play for us and more than likely will never play for us.
Plus that player who will probably never play for us is out of position as well.
This Friendly Tramp guy is alot smarter than most of you seem to think. For one thing, he's got you all dancing to his tune while he sits back and laughes at the reactions.
Guy is a genius.
Guy is a genius.
Wasn't it you that kept saying 442 is dead? That's about as pointless an observation as what you've described.
No that wasn't me.
If you read my thread I still believe 4-4-2 should be used against most teams, all but the big teams and a selection of other teams that make it difficult by packing the midfield. I see no shame in matching them in midfield and beating them with quality.
Sometimes they will beat us with familliarity with their system and players who suit it perfectly.
Would everyone just shut the feck up and get back on topic to kagawa.
I have difficulties finding right place for him in our team. He is quality player but how should we play with him? Drop welbeck and start him up front with Rooney? Or as attacking midfielder in 4-3-3 which we don't play often?
Play him behind Rooney or another striker. Enough games to give all 4 of them gametime.
There is a thing called rotation you know? Rooney or Welbeck won't play every game.
This is where I am lost. Play him instead of a forward, and have to also force Rooney to lead to line when starting him, I am not sure about all that.
If you can't deal with it, stop talking about it.
In some of our tougher games Rooney led the line anyway. Better to have someone like Kagawa to help him out rather than the same old story when we play 1 up front with him being isolated and lacking the right kind of support.
I think its in part to do with options. Usually if for some reason Rooney misses a match, we can call on Berbatov to do a job in his stead and be more of a link between attack and midfield. With him leaving we now have that spot to fill and perhaps Sir Alex isnt confident in Welbeck taking on that role... And the other option is Giggs behind a striker, which has rarely ever worked. Or Park behind the striker, same story. I guess Young plays there sometimes for England but Sir Alex hasnt gone for that yet has he? Maybe he doesnt fancy him there either. Afterall, you'd be replacing a specialist in the hole player... Why not do it with another specialist. Far more effective than asking someone to do a job.
It's always the same every fecking season.
"Where will Evans play if Jones and Smalling are likely to be the back up centre backs?"
"What's the point signing Young? We already have Nani and Valencia"
People must think we're playing FIFA where you name your best XI week in, week out. It never happens like that, Rooney could do his cruciate and be out for a year and then where would we be? Form and injuries mean you never have a guaranteed first XI.
"Where will Evans play if Jones and Smalling are likely to be the back up centre backs?"
"What's the point signing Young? We already have Nani and Valencia"
People must think we're playing FIFA where you name your best XI week in, week out. It never happens like that, Rooney could do his cruciate and be out for a year and then where would we be? Form and injuries mean you never have a guaranteed first XI.
So am I not allowed to have doubts? No saying this won't be a good signing, he could be our best signing this summer, but just seems to me the formation people are suggesting here looks a bit awkward to me. Sure we have Berbatov and Tevez in similar role before, even they are forwards, and whether it has worked well with Rooney is still debatable.
Imagine we were linked with Messi "oh but that means Welbeck or Hernandez wont play, where will Rooney go etc"
I'd just be happy that we are signing a player who is capable of doing things nobody else in the squad can. It's a squad game now and we certainly wont be fielding the same XI every week.
I'd just be happy that we are signing a player who is capable of doing things nobody else in the squad can. It's a squad game now and we certainly wont be fielding the same XI every week.
It's not really forcing Rooney. At times in the hole he actually harms our play. I'm beginning to feel his best position might just be up top (as long as we don't isolate him as he gets frustrated).
Aye, like last season people were saying we had too many CB in Vidic, Rio, Smalling and Jones therefore we should sell Evans. Move on a year and Evans was arguably our best defender last season. Injuries happen and its important to be well stocked for cover rather than to get the injury only to have no cover. We had problems last season when we had injuries to Fletcher, Anderson and Cleverley at the same time. It probably was the reason why Scholes returned.
It is such a squad game now that anyone who is not a first team regular will still play a hell of a lot of games. We are in four competitions so there are plenty of opportunities for everyone over the course of a season
Same when we signed Evra and Vidic. They turned out ok.
Look at rvp, many would at that like Rooney he'd be great in the number 10 role but arsenal have pushed him up top as the main striker and he's not looked back since. Rooney had a great return in a slightly withdrawn role, imagine how much he could get as the main man, particularly with the quality we!have in the wings and in attacking midfield if we add someone. As others have said the other strikers will still get time. Welbeck is flexible enough to come in across the front, not to mention general rotation, sometimes I'm sure fergie will prefer 2 strikers particularly against smaller teams. Likewise Hernandez will get games.
The Sweeper: Kagawa move to Manchester United hits snag over work permit issue
Borussia Dortmund star could fall short of the number of required caps for Japan, while Sir Alex http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3774...ove-to-manchester-united-hits-snag-over-work-
Borussia Dortmund star could fall short of the number of required caps for Japan, while Sir Alex http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3774...ove-to-manchester-united-hits-snag-over-work-
Oh noes!!
He can get a conditional permit on the grounds of being an "exceptional talent".
That's not even an issue - he might be denied at the first attempt, but he is 100% guaranteed to be given a work permit at the second attempt
He's only down on caps because of the broken foot, that's if he has even been denied anyway
Well if the Daily Star says so.
In FM he gets the work permit at a second attempt and that too in June 2011 so no issues.
Not really seen much of him to be honest, is he any good?
Difference between the 2 though is that RVP can hold the ball up effectively when played up front on his own. Rooney can't. When Rooney plays there he is completely dependent on the service he receives, if it's good and regular then he can do ok. If it is not Rooney becomes increasingly isolated and ineffective.
RVP can also create chances for himself in that role, using his strength and close control to create space, and he can also score regularly from outside the box in those situations, which obviously helps.
Rooney cannot do any of that with any regularity, which is why i don't want to see him played up front on his own. Kagawa would help in that regard, but for me Rooney is just not that effective playing that role. Rooney's game is about finding space in the hole and then playmaking from there. In tight situations where he is closely marked with his back to goal, i don't rate him much at all in those scenarios tbh.
Carrick is behind the 4 attacking midfielders you dummy
----------------back 4---------------
------------------Carrick---------------
-Valencia----Kagawa---Rooney---Nani---
---------------Welbeck/Chicharito-------
That was a classic!! To quote the simpsons, you bet your sweet bippy. And unlike that cnut Joe Cole, has the runs on the board.
Goal.com. Pinch of salt.
http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1...ove-to-manchester-united-hits-snag-over-work-
http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1...ove-to-manchester-united-hits-snag-over-work-
If the arsenal no name guy got a permit then Kagawa won't have a problem.
Not a chance of this being a problem.
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