Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!

Regarding the Hulk bit, the comparison is weak because of the phrasing I chose. It was intentional. Using someone like Hulk made it much more hyperbolic and to some extent, unrelated to what you were saying. My point is, what you see as devastating could be someone else's good or great.


Slight paradox here? Surely you have to "rate" them to establish how good you believe them to be? Or....do you mean you just take it for granted that they are amazing, therefore no rating is necessary? If so I understand your point. Not sure it applies to Bale as he isn't in this bracket...therefore his rating is open to assessment.

I mean rate them in the sense of expressing why you like the player. Think we're operating on different definitions here.

Why mention it then? I've already explained in satisfactory detail why I used these words.
Being nit-picky really.


Is the Bale thread really.....highly contentious? I'm not sure it is. Some people take themselves a little too seriously but that's all. You are confusing argument with opinion fella...they are not the same thing....think about it.

Maybe not highly contentious but I do think the number of posts relative to the time period of the accumulation of these posts and their content speak to the suggestion people have some strong opinions on Bale.

I explained to you that we all like to be in control of our argument....but that I am "comfortable" in posting comments that are in part subjective. This is because I am not afraid to be subjective...and then be held to account for it. To me it is part of the enjoyment of posting on a forum. I like a debate but I'm not fecking obsessed with setting myself up to argue objectively about everything......to me that situation lacks an element of intensity. You are not truly arguing...just waiting to trip people up and be a smug git about it. Back to the straw-man again.

I don't think you have to be wholly objective. Don't believe I said that. I think having some sense of it brings more substance to your subjective opinion. I'm not sure why you're trying to paint me as a "smug git". I picked up on something I thought was erroneous. I ended up being wrong about it. I was not using straw-man.

You might want to apply this to yourself, not sure I require it?

And you say I'm pretentious? Okay. Honestly, our impressions of each other are leading to some statements which are a bit off as I'll point out below.

What the feck!!!.....who's putting words in someone's mouth now? Ostentation is the signal flag of what??? I'm pretty sure you know. Just to clarify, not that I should......I never admitted I "can't be arsed" to do anything, my reasoning is all there in plain English.

Basically you are so astonishingly pretentious you believe someone who doesn't comply with your convaluted method of reasoning is simply a lazy twat?......who cannot possibly be taken as seriously as you take yourself? A true narcissist at work....you are always so easily identifiable :lol:


You just can't help yourselves :rolleyes:

So we've put words in each other's mouths. How surprising. Now saying I think you're a lazy twat and I'm a narcissist. Ridiculous. Did you not say you are comfortable with being subjective? I'm saying being content = "not being arsed" in this instance. Not implying you're lazy mate. You're just fine with your position as you've said yourself. Obviously my wording rubbed you the wrong way but there was no intent to insult there.

I dont want you complying with my method of reasoning. Where did I say that? Overall, I dont see a problem with yours. I just think you could add more substance to your points which imo, would add more solidity to your posts. I guess you don't think that's the case. If so, fair enough. I don't really care. Sometimes, I read something and feel the need to point it out and offer a suggestion as well. You can simply ignore it and go about your day. It has nothing to do with modeling my thought process nor people taking my points more seriously than yours or others. I'm not sure why you took my earlier point and attempted to tie that to me as if I'm some self-important bastard.

In this situation, I made an incorrect assertion which brought on all this nonsense. To me, it's more telling what the absence of tone inflection and body language can do to a conversation between two people.
 
Regarding the Hulk bit, the comparison is weak because of the phrasing I chose. It was intentional. Using someone like Hulk made it much more hyperbolic and to some extent, unrelated to what you were saying. My point is, what you see as devastating could be someone else's good or great.




I mean rate them in the sense of expressing why you like the player. Think we're operating on different definitions here.


Being nit-picky really.




Maybe not highly contentious but I do think the number of posts relative to the time period of the accumulation of these posts and their content speak to the suggestion people have some strong opinions on Bale.



I don't think you have to be wholly objective. Don't believe I said that. I think having some sense of it brings more substance to your subjective opinion. I'm not sure why you're trying to paint me as a "smug git". I picked up on something I thought was erroneous. I ended up being wrong about it. I was not using straw-man.



And you say I'm pretentious? Okay. Honestly, our impressions of each other are leading to some statements which are a bit off as I'll point out below.



So we've put words in each other's mouths. How surprising. Now saying I think you're a lazy twat and I'm a narcissist. Ridiculous. Did you not say you are comfortable with being subjective? I'm saying being content = "not being arsed" in this instance. Not implying you're lazy mate. You're just fine with your position as you've said yourself. Obviously my wording rubbed you the wrong way but there was no intent to insult there.

I dont want you complying with my method of reasoning. Where did I say that? Overall, I dont see a problem with yours. I just think you could add more substance to your points which imo, would add more solidity to your posts. I guess you don't think that's the case. If so, fair enough. I don't really care. Sometimes, I read something and feel the need to point it out and offer a suggestion as well. You can simply ignore it and go about your day. It has nothing to do with modeling my thought process nor people taking my points more seriously than yours or others. I'm not sure why you took my earlier point and attempted to tie that to me as if I'm some self-important bastard.

In this situation, I made an incorrect assertion which brought on all this nonsense. To me, it's more telling what the absence of tone inflection and body language can do to a conversation between two people.

Jeez :lol: you really don't let up do you? Fair enough I admire that actually it shows a firm resoluteness. There's all sorts of stuff in there I could continue with but we could go on forever with this posturing. Truth is we just end up looking like a couple of "pretentious" twats trying to score meaningless points. You end up losing sight of what you were fecking arguing about in the first place.

Lets leave it at "I'm not a lazy twat," and you are not a "pretentious narcissist." All the rest in between we can stand by.
 
Haha i couldnt let you off with what you said earlier. Anyway, let's just leave it mate. If you got more to say just PM me
 
Where the feck was he yesterday? The attack was utterly toothless against Chelsea. Defoe is a greedy bastard.
 
If someone doesn't believe that Bale is one of the five best players in the world, they are stupid. He's just behind Messi and Ronaldo, way ahead of Rooney, van Persie, Iniesta and like.

Tottenham are much better than United too.
 
If someone doesn't believe that Bale is one of the five best players in the world, they are stupid. He's just behind Messi and Ronaldo, way ahead of Rooney, van Persie, Iniesta and like.

When attempting to WUM you shouldn't be quite so obvious.
 
I can't help it if some posters on here can't handle the truth: Bale is now one of the very best wingers in the world - that much is abundantly clear - and I can only wonder at the motives and/or perceptive blindness of those who seek to deny it.

Anyhow, there's no convincing the pre-determined knockers. So I'm content to let the rest of Bale's season unfold as it may.

Nah, there are at least 10 wingers better than him and that's not even counting Messi who has been used on the wing a lot. Spurs are about his level.
 
He would have been held in higher regard here if it wasn't for some fanboys going over the top. He is somewhere in the middle of what Glaston says and what most on here believe. Same pattern has applied, applies and will apply for many more footballers.
 
He would have been held in higher regard here if it wasn't for some fanboys going over the top. He is somewhere in the middle of what Glaston says and what most on here believe. Same pattern has applied, applies and will apply for many more footballers.

He's exactly where most on here regard him to be, a good Premier League winger that has the potential to be even better but nowhere near world's best footballers and will never become one of the best wingers ever. I wouldn't mind a player like him at United but he's not someone I'd dream about and I'd certainly never say he's close to Rooney, van Persie, Silva, Iniesta, Xavi etc. He wouldn't get a single minute in Barcelona's or Real Madrid's teams.
 
I think he will get more than a single minute for Madrid. I agree he isn't as good as some people make him out to be though but IMO he will get fair amount of time in madrids team.
 
He isn't Spurs' level though. Good enough for a starting place in any PL team, basically any team in Europe bar Real, Barca and maybe Munich considering their wings. I'd even say he'd be more than a decent option from the bench for the Spanish giants. Obviously, he isn't as good as Glaston believes mind you.
 
:lol: Its strange how we have to always include "he isn't as good as glaston says though" this sentence while praising him.
 
The mere thought of Glaston wanking furiously while reading Bale's praising causes this.
 
noticed on MOTD he's even adopted the same stance at Ronaldo at the free kicks. He gets more embarrassing each week.

By the end of the season he'll have a sun tan and earings
 
noticed on MOTD he's even adopted the same stance at Ronaldo at the free kicks. He gets more embarrassing each week.

By the end of the season he'll have a sun tan and earings

Haha I noticed that as well!
 
noticed on MOTD he's even adopted the same stance at Ronaldo at the free kicks. He gets more embarrassing each week.

By the end of the season he'll have a sun tan and earings

Yep and next season in an Utd shirt as he would be nothing short of a sensation here.
 
I would take him in a shot as well. He would be my number one choice as a Nani replacement.

I would be surprised if we were not considering him. Seems a perfect fit.

But he won't be easy to get at all.
 
Yep I'd love to see him here. We haven't had a proper left footed winger since Giggs, and he's not really a winger anymore. We would probably have to over pay to get him though.
 
He's had that free kick stance for years. Not saying he didn't copy it from Ronnie but it's certainly not new.
 
He's a Ronaldo wannabe but with a third of the talent and dedication

Well that's still a very decent player! The fact people are even comparing him to Ronaldo says it all! When was the last time we compared Young and Ronaldo?
 
Many players have adopted that Ronaldo stance over the years to be fair ever since Ronaldo made himself famous for that
 
Would be great here, no doubt. I'd love to see him as a Nani replacement, and Fergie could definitely get the best out of him. None of this floating around the middle, swapping wings shite. Just put him on the left flank, and get him to attack the full back. Him and Valencia on either side would be scary for the oppostion. The only worry is we may become even more one-dimensional.
 
Well that's still a very decent player! The fact people are even comparing him to Ronaldo says it all! When was the last time we compared Young and Ronaldo?

That's some poor logic. If you copy Ronaldo, then you're a Ronaldo wannabe. How does this actually tie in to your ability as a player? We dont compare Young with Ronaldo because there's nothing Young does in his game that reminds us of Ronaldo nor does he attempt to.

Bale's a good player but him being a Ronaldo wannabe has no bearing on his ability in my view.
 
Would be great here, no doubt. I'd love to see him as a Nani replacement, and Fergie could definitely get the best out of him. None of this floating around the middle, swapping wings shite. Just put him on the left flank, and get him to attack the full back. Him and Valencia on either side would be scary for the oppostion. The only worry is we may become even more one-dimensional.

and we would still be overrun in midfield against decent opposition. Far too one dimensional if you ask me. 2 wingers who both rely on pace and directness is a bit much. I'd rather we signed a different type of player in the Hazard, Mata, Isco mould.
 
If he was trying to copy Ronaldo then he'd try to adjust his game to be a goalscorer. At the moment, he's a direct winger. That's not what Ronaldo is at all. He's nothing like Bale and wasn't even when he was playing on the wing for us in his early days. There are some similarities but the slating him because he apparently acts too similarly to Ronaldo is pathetic.

We don't need another winger but he would be good here. Valencia is more consistent, but Bale is probably the better overall player. Also, I wouldn't put it past Fergie to buy him if the rumours of Nani leaving happen to be true.
 
Problem is Levy will surely ask fro more than 40 mil for Bale.

Thus we have no chance of signing him.
 
and we would still be overrun in midfield against decent opposition. Far too one dimensional if you ask me. 2 wingers who both rely on pace and directness is a bit much. I'd rather we signed a different type of player in the Hazard, Mata, Isco mould.
Like Kagawa you mean?
 
If he was trying to copy Ronaldo then he'd try to adjust his game to be a goalscorer. At the moment, he's a direct winger. That's not what Ronaldo is at all. He's nothing like Bale and wasn't even when he was playing on the wing for us in his early days. There are some similarities but the slating him because he apparently acts too similarly to Ronaldo is pathetic.

We don't need another winger but he would be good here. Valencia is more consistent, but Bale is probably the better overall player. Also, I wouldn't put it past Fergie to buy him if the rumours of Nani leaving happen to be true.

Pace, directness, daft celebrations, the free kicks, the stance, trying to smash dipping shots from distance.

Some of these are just attributes lots of players have, but the free kick stance, the celebration and the way he's always trying to cut in and lash shots, plus the fact he loves Ronaldo, leads me to believe he's trying to become the clone.

i'll continue to laugh at it either way! He's even added diving to his game. There's just a smugness that radiates from Bale at times, I'm not a fan of smug, but at least when you're as good as Ronaldo you get away with it. Bale? he can't, not for me anyway, but then I'm sure he doesn't care. Chimp faced cheating fooker!
 
Well that's still a very decent player! The fact people are even comparing him to Ronaldo says it all! When was the last time we compared Young and Ronaldo?

Steady on, no one is comparing him with Ronaldo.Mimicking one's stance isn't a comparison :lol: If people do that then they're seriously making fun of Bale or Ronaldo
 
Not sure why some on the caf dislike Bale. He is a quiet, serious, dedicated professional, and easily Spurs best player. Would love to see him move to United, where he could, and probably would, improve a lot.
 
Bale on the left would make us have proper width on both wings. It's like having a left footed Valencia on the other side.