Yeah tbf on the ball they've done alright, Giggs has had a couple of through balls though which he's just trying from too deep and they're cut out easily. Though RVP should have scored if not worked the goalie with one of the aerial balls. Good thing about Giggs tbf to him is that he's willing to break forward and support and similarly you can see Carrick is more willing to try and go forward as he knows Giggs can cover him. Only issue is that when Giggs does go forward he can be a little slow to come back and I think it's making RVP drop deeper.
Norwich City vs. Manchester United
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Yeah tbf on the ball they've done alright, Giggs has had a couple of through balls though which he's just trying from too deep and they're cut out easily. Though RVP should have scored if not worked the goalie with one of the aerial balls. Good thing about Giggs tbf to him is that he's willing to break forward and support and similarly you can see Carrick is more willing to try and go forward as he knows Giggs can cover him. Only issue is that when Giggs does go forward he can be a little slow to come back and I think it's making RVP drop deeper.
Yeah, we have the control but just seem so very blunt apart from Giggs. I want to see more from RVP, I don't think he's quite used to playing for us yet.
It depends on function.
Giggs creating a Chance != good player, he's given away the ball more times than he's created chances.
Unlike Anderson of course he actually creates opportunities for his teammates though.
Giggs is one of the only players to create anything close to a decent chance on goal.
There was RVP's corner, Youngs shot, Giggsy's through balls.
That's it.
My stream has developed an annoying sound. I think it's there to keep me awake for the second half.
What we need to do is really slowly pass the ball out to Valencia when he's double marked more often.
It's vitally important to base our entire gameplan around Valencia single handedly winning the game on his own.
Also, Carrick and Giggs need to maintain their positions of playing directly on the half way line all the time. Otherwise it may become difficult for Norwich to pass the ball around and get past them at will.
It's vitally important to base our entire gameplan around Valencia single handedly winning the game on his own.
Also, Carrick and Giggs need to maintain their positions of playing directly on the half way line all the time. Otherwise it may become difficult for Norwich to pass the ball around and get past them at will.
I don't know this No.7 Valencia, he's right sided Downing... Whats with passing the ball back every time.
The purchase of Kagawa gave me hope but it's all fading away. We could have played Anderson as the most advanced midfielder in Rooney's absence but Fergie decided to go with the Zombie stuff. I am speechless.
That would make us even slower than we already are
Just need Hernandez to score a jammy goal
Hoolahan has actually had less touches than all of our midfield four. He has made more key passes than any other player though with 3. Giggs has 2.
Too slow and predictable. In rare moments where we've played the ball quicker and ran at them, we looked like we might do something. They are just too comfortable right now.
Midfield need to take a bit more responsibility instead of relying on the wingers all the time. Also Young and Valencia really need to put in a bit more effort themselves. We're not getting enough penetration. I can see Anderson or Cleverley to shake things up if this continues.
Midfield need to take a bit more responsibility instead of relying on the wingers all the time. Also Young and Valencia really need to put in a bit more effort themselves. We're not getting enough penetration. I can see Anderson or Cleverley to shake things up if this continues.
I agree Giggs has been our best player so far. Not saying much though. We really need our wingers to find some form.
This is exactly what I'm seeing, not the Valencia of last season that would attack without hesitation to the outside. Now he's taken a page from Nani's book and taken his most effective trait out of his game, speed.
Called it earlier, didn't want to see Giggs in the midfield and here he is. To his credit he hasn't cost us the game but he's not done anything to cause Norwich any trouble. Aside for a couple route 1 balls over the top towards the end of the half he's been dormant.
We could use Ando's drive to move the ball on the ground through the middle. And FFS can we get the ball to our Dutch Assassin!?!
No way. Wideplay has always been a hallmark of United teams but not the way it is right now. Firstly, we used to play with more pace and intensity than anyone else. Right now we play a pretty slow brand of football. Secondly, the balance between play through central and wide areas has changed a fair deal. A few seasons ago we played some quality stuff through central areas whilst maintaining our wide threat. Right now, we're basically a team that attacks through it's wingers. There's a difference
That mindset was created before the game when people threw their toys out of the pram because Anderson wasn't playing.
he's kept possession very well. He gave away a couple of first-time balls but at least he was trying something.I reckon Fergie gets 80% of his pleasure in life from destroying other teams' fans' dreams, and 15% from driving United fans crazy. The rest is wine, horses and use of the phrase "there's no doubt about that".
Why isn't Giggs out wide? Surely he'd provide a better threat than anyone else we've put out wide so far this season. Giggs out wide, Anderson on for Young please.
We did try and sign Hazard and then Lucas in fairness.
The biggest factor in the match is how well Norwich have set up against us, and how Fergie's plan/tactics has failed.
All of our strength is up around the edge of the box, and Norwich are more than happy to basically play with 10 men behind the ball, and break through our midfield which of course has the speedsters Giggs and Carrick. It's how teams should be playing against us.
We've had no ingenuity through the middle at all - to be fair this was exactly the type of match we bought Kagawa for.
It's hard for Valencia and Young to be productive because Norwich's wide midfield players are just secondary defenders. And because of our lack of pace in the middle, we can't fully commit Evra and Rafael forward, because we'll get outpaced in the gaps they leave behind.
It's classic stifling counter attack stuff, and it's working.
All of our strength is up around the edge of the box, and Norwich are more than happy to basically play with 10 men behind the ball, and break through our midfield which of course has the speedsters Giggs and Carrick. It's how teams should be playing against us.
We've had no ingenuity through the middle at all - to be fair this was exactly the type of match we bought Kagawa for.
It's hard for Valencia and Young to be productive because Norwich's wide midfield players are just secondary defenders. And because of our lack of pace in the middle, we can't fully commit Evra and Rafael forward, because we'll get outpaced in the gaps they leave behind.
It's classic stifling counter attack stuff, and it's working.
He created one fantastic chance, I agree with that one. But he gave the ball away far too much in that half and Giggs should be doing better for his standrds.
What could have been..
Unbelievable, I forgot we are playing again!!! How was the half?!
The games calling for Anderson I think. Some energy and urgency when we attack
Just give Nani what he wants
Count yourself lucky.
Can we put a Villa shirt on Young so he could start perform?
I almost fall asleep.. we were too slow and predictable.
I wouldn't mind seeing Ando come on tbh. We need a bit of drive from midfield and we all know he can 'attack the space', so to speak.
He's the only one who's created anything for us. And it wasn't a route 1 ball for RvP. If Xavi had played that you'd be calling it pass of the season.
Hoolahan
Nice. Watching United while hearing the odd explosion of a rocket from Gaza not too far away. Surreal!
Giggs has been ok, but id have ando on
I really don't what get what was wrong with the style of play we started last season with. Wasn't it fantastic to watch? Didn't we smash teams for fun? Okay, you could argue we were a tad open but I'd reply saying we beat teams easily and that you always have to work on a system to perfect it, it doesn't just click instantly. But it almost did click instantly for us (barring the slight openness).
I don't see why we didn't take that style of play further and try and perfect it and make it the way we play. And you're right, the Kagawa signing implied just that. But for some reason we've gone to this stale and boring brand of football instead.
Come on!
No, in my opinion. It's not easy being a winger while the only support provided occasionally comes from fullbacks. Centre mids should try and find space in between their defence and midfield more often. Can't expect Valencia to solve everthing on his own, that said, he hasn't been up to par today.
In the half-time show they are talking about how may be Norwich should score a goal in order for us to wake up .
We are pathetic!
Unfortunately SAF hairdryer is not working , we need to go a goal behind.