Benitez to Chelsea Discussion & Sack watch

Never liked him, but that was out of order. You can dislike your manager but you should give him support, not doing that what they did in the first match. Pretty classless from Chevsk.
 
Well focusing their placards, chants and what not at him and his acolytes rather than their new manager for a start.

Their problem is that they dont feel they can, obviously, so they swivel it towards Benitez, who's the next most visible. The idea that they should just shut up though is fanciful IMO. Disillusioned football fans are going to voice their dissaproval at someone. It might as well be at the right person.

Their gripes & vitriol should be aimed at their very rich, billionaire owner, seeing as he was the one who sacked their hero - no sacking = no Benitez - Maybe it's just that Rafa was an easier target than their very rich, billionaire owner who has bought them lots of trophies over the past 7 or 8 years.
 
Everyone jumping on the moral high ground here once again. I'd boo the twat if he became manager here as would quite a lot of United fans I imagine, or are we the only fans who are allowed to hold grudges?
 
Everyone jumping on the moral high ground here once again. I'd boo the twat if he became manager here as would quite a lot of United fans I imagine, or are we the only fans who are allowed to hold grudges?

Yeah I don't go for all this 100% support from the off bollocks either.

That being said, the chavs are hardly likely to have a pop at Abramovich. Without him they have feck all players, feck all fans and would be lucky to still be in the premiership, let alone solvent. But one day they'll return to their true level. Possibly under Benitez :lol:
 
Yeah I don't go for all this 100% support from the off bollocks either.

That being said, the chavs are hardly likely to have a pop at Abramovich. Without him they have feck all players, feck all fans and would be lucky to still be in the premiership, let alone solvent. But one day they'll return to their true level. Possibly under Benitez :lol:

You can say one thing for the guy, if ever there was a manager who could restore that authenticity they crave - then Rafa is the man to do it. It could put an end to their 8-9 years of false league positions
 
Yeah I don't go for all this 100% support from the off bollocks either.

That being said, the chavs are hardly likely to have a pop at Abramovich. Without him they have feck all players, feck all fans and would be lucky to still be in the premiership, let alone solvent. But one day they'll return to their true level. Possibly under Benitez :lol:

See Mockney's post above. They were a contender before he arrived. Harding pumped a fortune into them and had he not died they would probably have won the title with his cash.
 
That being said, the chavs are hardly likely to have a pop at Abramovich. Without him they have feck all players, feck all fans and would be lucky to still be in the premiership, let alone solvent. But one day they'll return to their true level.

This level?

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Chelsea were on the verge of going like Portsmouth till Abramovich took over in fairness. They do owe all their recent success to him.
 
How many clubs have been on that verge? Several have, and several have been saved by heavy investments. It's only really Chelsea (and City, obviously) we decide on consensus to give absolutely no credit or hypothetical leeway to. Like I said, both Lampard & Terry were already there in 2003 and they were already in the CL and firmly a top 5 side. They're a different kettle of fish to City.

If the Glazers increased our huge debt and then bailed, and a new owner came in and invested heavily, would we happily give him full credit for any ensuing success?

Obviously Roman had a massive, massive impact, and lifted them to heights they'd have been years off (or entirely off) otherwise, but posts like Redlambs are farcically overstated, and also common, because Chelsea are fair game for this kind of "they were nothing without him" rhetoric. Which isn't entirely fair.
 
How many clubs have been on that verge? Several have, and several have been saved by heavy investments. It's only really Chelsea (and City, obviously) we decide on consensus to give absolutely no credit or hypothetical leeway to. Like I said, both Lampard & Terry were already there in 2003 and they were already in the CL and firmly a top 5 side. They're a different kettle of fish to City.

If the Glazers increased our huge debt and then bailed, and a new owner came in and invested heavily, would we happily give him full credit for any ensuing success?

Obviously Roman had a massive, massive impact, and lifted them to heights they'd have been years off (or entirely off) otherwise, but posts like Redlambs are farcically overstated, and also common, because Chelsea are fair game for this kind of "they were nothing without him" rhetoric. Which isn't entirely fair.


They were a good team pre-Abramovich, but only to the extent that Liverpool were a good team and would always get into the Champions League, win trophies like UEFA Cup and FA Cup and every so often, even challenge for the title.

Post-Abramovich, they've become one of the biggest clubs in the world, can always be considered genuine title contenders (years they don't do well in the league is of their own doing and not because of lack of talent) and 9/10 times can beat United to any signing solely because of Roman's money. Without Roman raising the bar on transfer fees and/or wages, Chelsea would never of got Robben and Essien because they would've chose the better club, not insane amounts of money.
 
How many clubs have been on that verge? Several have, and several have been saved by heavy investments. It's only really Chelsea (and City, obviously) we decide on consensus to give absolutely no credit or hypothetical leeway to. Like I said, both Lampard & Terry were already there in 2003 and they were already in the CL and firmly a top 5 side. They're a different kettle of fish to City.

If the Glazers increased our huge debt and then bailed, and a new owner came in and invested heavily, would we happily give him full credit for any ensuing success?

Obviously Roman had a massive, massive impact, and lifted them to heights they'd have been years off (or entirely off) otherwise, but posts like Redlambs are farcically overstated, and also common, because Chelsea are fair game for this kind of "they were nothing without him" rhetoric. Which isn't entirely fair.


What a load of rubbish. MATTHEW HARDING!!!!!!!!!!!
 
How many clubs have been on that verge? Several have, and several have been saved by heavy investments. It's only really Chelsea (and City, obviously) we decide on consensus to give absolutely no credit or hypothetical leeway to. Like I said, both Lampard & Terry were already there in 2003 and they were already in the CL and firmly a top 5 side. They're a different kettle of fish to City.

If the Glazers increased our huge debt and then bailed, and a new owner came in and invested heavily, would we happily give him full credit for any ensuing success?

Obviously Roman had a massive, massive impact, and lifted them to heights they'd have been years off (or entirely off) otherwise, but posts like Redlambs are farcically overstated, and also common, because Chelsea are fair game for this kind of "they were nothing without him" rhetoric. Which isn't entirely fair.

Err, it was a bit tongue in cheek and a wind up that clearly hooked in the wrong targets. Suppose I should have white texted. Nice rant though ;)

Although, they were close to going under because of the spending that got them to that level you refer to, and the over expansion where they not? That does make their attitude nowadays a bit silly, but it is Rafa. I don't begrudge them being saved at all, I don't want to see any club go under, I don't begrudge them their success either for that matter.
 
That was a fairly dignified form of protest in comparison, no? I already said voicing concerns and displeasure is grand, but placards like the ones Chelsea had seem cheap and unclassy, I'll stand by that. If they had made some clever waiter-based jibes at Rafa I'd have more respect for them.

I think when it comes to Chelsea, "dignified" went out the window a long time ago, thrown out by Abramovich. Chelsea fans know their club is a bit of a laughing stock, or fans I know do, anyway, all this changing manager every five minutes. And Benitez is the straw that broke the camel's back. I took it all to be essentially a "not in my name" protest, as has been said they already had a distaste for the man. I think it is fair enough, he should never have been brought in in the first place, it may not have been obvious it would go down quite as badly as it did but it was always going to go down badly.
 
Spoke to a Chelsea supporter today who only ever seems to absorb info about football if it comes via Chelsea TV.

It seems Desailly was saying that Roman wanted Rafa last year but gave in to potential negative fan pressure to give RDM a run. This time he's decided to ignore the potential abreaction. Prob just PR spin - but who knows to what purpose.

Seems unlikely if Benitez has only been employed on a temporary basis. Not that there is much difference between a temporary and permanent Chelsea manager!

I have to laugh at these Chelsea fans booing Benitez. Classy stuff, that. Have they realised that the man they should be booing is Abramovic yet, or is it just because they've realised how out of contention they'd be without him?

The whole thing's a joke.
 
Rafa's great man-management returns - this time he's telling the world that Torres is past it
 
Rafa is getting what he deserves.

This is a case of what happens if you say unnecessary comments.

He should have kept his mouth shut about Chelsea fans. He deserves whatever he gets now. Should have never been named manager.

BUT, the Chelsea fans are incredible cowards for not saying a peep about Roman. He's the one who hired the fat waiter.
 
BUT, the Chelsea fans are incredible cowards for not saying a peep about Roman. He's the one who hired the fat waiter.

I've said this too. They lack the balls to stand up to the one who counts. Rafa is just a figurehead, a temp one at that.
Yeah Roman's money got them trophies but they've paid a high price for that sucsess.
 
2 draws!

When should he start worrying about getting sacked?
 
Is it actually Abramovich fault though?

He did whatever he thinks its best for Chelsea, he sacked AVB (and rightly so)

Although he's probably too harsh on the likes of Scolari and Ancelloti and stupid on Mourinho

But does he deserves all this agravation? As much as they hate Rafa, he's ok-ish for interim manager, and it's not likely he hasn't got the CV to boot.

besides, it's a quick appointment, probably Abramovich just didn't know that they hate him that much.