Benitez to Chelsea Discussion & Sack watch

It is obviously Roman's fault Sky.Sacking Di Matteo was a childish and knee jerk reaction from him.I hate Benitez but the Chelsea fans are hypocrite in the way they've treated him so far.
 
It is obviously Roman's fault Sky.Sacking Di Matteo was a childish and knee jerk reaction from him.I hate Benitez but the Chelsea fans are hypocrite in the way they've treated him so far.

He was given a fair chance though, RDM. He was supposed to be a caretaker afterall, nobody bank on him winning the big cup, but he did, given 2 years , failed miserably midseason, get the boot

I didn't see this as any betrayal or backstabbing, it's just the risk of having a job at chelsea.

It's not like RDM is doing brilliant things and showings signs of progress, they regress in a way, considering the talent they have there and with terry and all calling the shots.

I don't know, but wouldn't it childish and knee jerk as well to blame abramovich 7 mths after winning the European Cup?
 
He was a caretaker at first and then he signed a contract for Chelsea I think.He was a "proper" coach.They weren't doing too badly so far, yes the defeat to Juventus was a bit too much but it's not like they're eliminated yet.
Roman has made Chelsea his bottom bitch, he's a child and he is toying with millions to satisfy an impossible need.
Di Matteo should not have been proposed to sign a contract, Roman should have looked for a manager after last season.
 
Juan Mata. Started the match from the bench and came on after the hour mark.

Hasn't Mata played nearly all their games this season? Di Matteo didn't rotate players at all, understandable that Benitez will have to rest most of them at some point now, particularly with Club World Cup just round the corner.
 
Hasn't Mata played nearly all their games this season? Di Matteo didn't rotate players at all, understandable that Benitez will have to rest most of them at some point now, particularly with Club World Cup just round the corner.

Majority of the games, yes. But when you see that Benitez is desperate to get the results, it becomes imperative to play your best player in matches like these. RdM made the mistake of not resting the players when he should have in some easy games viz. Wolves, Nordsjaelland, etc.
 
I've forgotten how hilarious he is.

This is going to be some ride towards oblivion. They deserve each other, the plastic fans and the waiter.
 
Their gripes & vitriol should be aimed at their very rich, billionaire owner, seeing as he was the one who sacked their hero - no sacking = no Benitez - Maybe it's just that Rafa was an easier target than their very rich, billionaire owner who has bought them lots of trophies over the past 7 or 8 years.

Trust a Liverpool supporter to want to protest against the owner :lol:
 
His point is fairly valid though, whether on purpose or not, Abramovich appointing Benitez has served to somewhat shield him from criticism, as most of the fan's flak is now going Rafa's way.
 
He did whatever he thinks its best for Chelsea, he sacked AVB (and rightly so)

Why even bring in someone that young if there was any microcosm of thought to sack him inside a season.

fecking ludicrous to even try and justify that. The payout for starters was a joke.
 
Why even bring in someone that young if there was any microcosm of thought to sack him inside a season.

fecking ludicrous to even try and justify that. The payout for starters was a joke.

well.. he's doing a shit job, honestly

Performing like that in a team like Chelsea isn't acceptable, it's not like he has things going in the dressing room, the player hates him (right / wrong)

Just because he's young doesn't always means he comes good.

I've no idea about SAF's early year, but i'm sure he's doing something good we all don't know, hence the board persist with him.

But with AVB, the player's going against him in just under a year means he fail. Right / wrong a good manager must be politically adept to handle player, I'm not saying the player is right, they're probably cnuts, but he lose this fight, and it cost him his job.
 
well.. he's doing a shit job, honestly

Performing like that in a team like Chelsea isn't acceptable, it's not like he has things going in the dressing room, the player hates him (right / wrong)

Just because he's young doesn't always means he comes good.

I've no idea about SAF's early year, but i'm sure he's doing something good we all don't know, hence the board persist with him.

But with AVB, the player's going against him in just under a year means he fail. Right / wrong a good manager must be politically adept to handle player, I'm not saying the player is right, they're probably cnuts, but he lose this fight, and it cost him his job.

Not sure about that. The reason the players kicked off is because he was quite happy to drop some of the senior players. This is a trend that has continued since he left (sold or demoted to the bench), as many of those players weren't good enough. It just seemed like he was the first one to realise this.

If they'd have give him a bit longer they probably would not have won the Champions League, but they'd certainly be performing better than they currently are (in my opinion).

Although to be fair every manager going to Chelsea knows a month or 2 of poor results and you are out. So it's not as if I have any sympathy for AVB, stupid career choice.
 
I've no idea about SAF's early year, but i'm sure he's doing something good we all don't know, hence the board persist with him.

But with AVB, the player's going against him in just under a year means he fail. Right / wrong a good manager must be politically adept to handle player, I'm not saying the player is right, they're probably cnuts, but he lose this fight, and it cost him his job.

The game was completely different in that era. It doesn't even compare.

I don't think I really want to bother arguing to be honest. Whether or not he loses the dressing room is irrelevant to me. It's pretty obvious that Terry and his merry band of goons forced him out. If he tries to tactically shape the club the way he wants in the way he was hired then it's merely results that would get him sacked.

They weren't great but they didn't improve all that much under Di Matteo and it was obvious that RDM just reinstated the dressing room influence and let the team pick itself, shout some instructions nobody listened to and fronted the media.

A bit of a joke if you ask me.
 
Hasn't Mata played nearly all their games this season? Di Matteo didn't rotate players at all, understandable that Benitez will have to rest most of them at some point now, particularly with Club World Cup just round the corner.
For the Premier League Mata has started 10/14 whereas Torres and Hazard have started every game, Oscar has started 9. Mata is arguably their best player at the moment and dropping him for a local derby is move that only Benitez would make. December is going to be tough month for them, a game every 3 days with a trip to Japan thrown in as well, Rafa will have no choice but to rotate the squad.
 
Benitez seems to have turned them a bit toothless but sorted out their defence. If he finds the balance, they could be a force again. However, I remember the year Liverpool looked like being title contenders and some of his baffling substitutions and decisions that appeared to cost them some results. I think they'll become a stronger team, but ultimately not good enough.
 
For the Premier League Mata has started 10/14 whereas Torres and Hazard have started every game, Oscar has started 9. Mata is arguably their best player at the moment and dropping him for a local derby is move that only Benitez would make. December is going to be tough month for them, a game every 3 days with a trip to Japan thrown in as well, Rafa will have no choice but to rotate the squad.

I thought he played more. Perhaps he needed a rest anyway, they've had League Cup games (mostly played with a full squad for some reason) and Champions League to go with it (just one easy game in CL, the other 4 were tough battles).

He doesn't even have a squad to rotate, before last season Chelsea had the smallest squad in the league (about 20 senior players including 3 or 4 goalkeepers). Since then they've added Azpilicueta and a dozen attacking midfielders but lost all the cover they ever had for Torres. There'll only be room for rotation behind the striker as they have 6 or 7 attacking midfielder, elsewhere it's a poor squad.

0-0 against Fulham at home is a bad result but there's still time. He started off by fixing the defence it seems, and it's worked so far, now he need to bring a goalscorer in January and they might get back into the title race at some point (I doubt it though).
 
I thought he played more. Perhaps he needed a rest anyway, they've had League Cup games (mostly played with a full squad for some reason) and Champions League to go with it (just one easy game in CL, the other 4 were tough battles).

He doesn't even have a squad to rotate, before last season Chelsea had the smallest squad in the league (about 20 senior players including 3 or 4 goalkeepers). Since then they've added Azpilicueta and a dozen attacking midfielders but lost all the cover they ever had for Torres. There'll only be room for rotation behind the striker as they have 6 or 7 attacking midfielder, elsewhere it's a poor squad.

0-0 against Fulham at home is a bad result but there's still time. He started off by fixing the defence it seems, and it's worked so far, now he need to bring a goalscorer in January and they might get back into the title race at some point (I doubt it though).

This was exactly what I was thinking.
Against City, they started with Torres, mata, Oscar, Hazard, Ramires and Mikel. The only attacking sub he could bring on was Moses; who lets face it isnt the greatest.
Its really surprising how thin their squad is compared to the likes of United, City and even Arsenal to an extent.
 
So I've been away for a couple of weeks and haven't really had the time to keep up with footie news and such.

Imagine my shock when I found out that Rafa was in and Di Matteo had been sacked. A serious WTF moment.

Shame I couldn't watch the RAWK meltdown live or re-live it. All their Chelsea threads have been locked or deleted. :(
 
This was exactly what I was thinking.
Against City, they started with Torres, mata, Oscar, Hazard, Ramires and Mikel. The only attacking sub he could bring on was Moses; who lets face it isnt the greatest.
Its really surprising how thin their squad is compared to the likes of United, City and even Arsenal to an extent.

Exactly. Marin might turn out to be a good player for them but I don't think he's featured until now, Moses is decent but won't properly replace any of the starting trio, Sturridge is a bit of a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime and probably needs a move and a strong manager to straighten him up a little.

Oscar, Hazard and Mata are great though and they could get by playing only two of them agains weaker teams while resting the remaining one. Then again they have absolutely no way to go into a 2-man attack system because they simply do not have another forward.
 
Haters!

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No, not yet. Abram and the fans are taking things gently this time round. Not many managers left in the mix now.

Soon the owner will have no choice but to hire himself as manager. Should make everyone happy until he ends up having to sack himself after a couple of bad results.
Nah Terry and Lampard co-managers, lasts about 10 games until the training room is in all out civil war between the two factions, The Troubled Terry's vs. The Lactating Lampards......but since the first victims of violence are reserve team players nobody takes much notice.
 
0-0 against Fulham at home is a bad result but there's still time. He started off by fixing the defence it seems, and it's worked so far, now he need to bring a goalscorer in January and they might get back into the title race at some point (I doubt it though).

To be honest, they drew against Fulham at home 1-1 last year home and away. That goes with the 1-0 loss to QPR, the thumping from Arsenal at home and the 0-0 draw away. Last year getting up for the big games was a real problem. They seemed to have lost some of that footballing identity that makes local(ish) derby type games all the less important.

This year they drew again against QPR but righted the ship somewhat until that loss against us and it all went to shit. I think a lot of it is mental. Since that game they have not won a single match, picking up 4/15 points. If they look back at this season without any domestic silverware it will be this little period that lost it for them.

Lukaku would have been perfect this year. Still playing with a powerful target forward off the back of Drogba's exit. Sure he's short on experience but he would do a better job than Torres up front scrapping for the ball.
 
Rafa Benitez will get a warm reception when he returns to Anfield, the Liverpool fans still see him as one of their own. Probably because he hasn't had a job for two years.

thought worth a chuckle.
 
I would be absolutely shocked if Rafa survives the entire season. I'm not even sure he'll make it through Boxing Day. We'll see.
 
I've long since given up on discounting Chelsea. They've been winning trophies for years and will continue to do so.
 
I've long since given up on discounting Chelsea. They've been winning trophies for years and will continue to do so.

Indeed; plus we still have to come the part of the season where they shine: the transfer window. As long as they don't let Rafa have any involvement with on whom Roman will be spunking his next load on, then it's too early to assess them until the January window closes.
 
Roman will keep Rafa come what may until the season's end, just to teach his ungrateful flock who's the boss !
 
if Chelsea lose tomorrow, rafa will be out I feel.

That's a ridiculous claim, even by Chelski's revolving door standards. The bloke was only appointed a week or so ago.