Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances

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it was a good performance! he put goals on a plate on a couple of occasions and came very close himself. he was involved in all of our goals, put one on a plate for Rooney who missed BADLY and another cracking assist for Hernandez. If the all you nani hating idiots give the lad a break(him like Valencia, Rooney etc) and allowed him to play his football without abusing then it's a massive plus for united. We don't have any player on our team that can beat defenders like Nani can.

What about all the quick passing moves he started that was then gave away cheaply by Rooney? Shouldn't we be expecting an even higher level from Rooney than Nani?
 
2nd game in nearly 3 months. I thought he did well considering that.

More than that, Nani made a positive contribution v Fulham. Unless one simply hates Nani, there's no reason to do any less than give him genuine praise for his performance.
 
Solid game today against a side that offered nothing, but the main thing is that he keeps getting starts and the best will come.
 
Couldn't watch the game last night so I'm watching it now and after seeing the first half I'm amazed at some of the stuff written on here about Nani's first 45 minutes. I shouldn't be amazed, I mean this is Nani after all, but I am.

Involved in much of our good play, fashioned a couple of chances for himself to get shots off, created a great chance for Rooney. 2 or 3 moments where he should have done better granted, but overall a decent positive 45 mins.

Strange place this forum. I think where Nani is concerned he needs only to have a poor moment or 2 for fans to completely forget all the good stuff that went before.

Edit: Just one minute into the second half now and he's already set-up Rooney for another great chance with a brilliant piece of play.
 
Couldn't watch the game last night so I'm watching it now and after seeing the first half I'm amazed at some of the stuff written on here about Nani's first 45 minutes. I shouldn't be amazed, I mean this is Nani after all, but I am.

Involved in much of our good play, fashioned a couple of chances for himself to get shots off, created a great chance for Rooney. 2 or 3 moments where he should have done better granted, but overall a decent positive 45 mins.

Strange place this forum. I think where Nani is concerned he needs only to have a poor moment or 2 for fans to completely forget all the good stuff that went before.

Edit: Just one minute into the second half now and he's already set-up Rooney for another great chance with a brilliant piece of play.


I Don' t know why poor games by Nano are always denied! He did improve 2nd half but any one who thought he was anything but poor first half is delusional.
Just look at the expressions on other players faces when yet again he wasted time and space to hit first defender. I do not dislike him and would like to see him back to his best.
 
I Don' t know why poor games by Nano are always denied! He did improve 2nd half but any one who thought he was anything but poor first half is delusional.
Just look at the expressions on other players faces when yet again he wasted time and space to hit first defender. I do not dislike him and would like to see him back to his best.

Have a rewatch, trust me. Sometimes we form a shit opinion when watching the game live, you definitely have done that yesterday if you think he was "shit" in the first half.

As for "have a look at players faces"... are you kidding me?

The fact that you had to post "I do not dislike him" tells a story, I mean, why would anyone dislike a United player?
 
He set one up on a plate at the end of the first half, yet nobody made the run.

Valencia's crosses have been overhit, smacked into the crowd and hit the first man for months. Nani sets up numerous chances from the wing, and the players are pissed off about it?
 
Have a rewatch, trust me. Sometimes we form a shit opinion when watching the game live, you definitely have done that yesterday if you think he was "shit" in the first half.

As for "have a look at players faces"... are you kidding me?

Exactly.

There are a few things about a few players which just get stuck in stupid peoples head no matter they are right or wrong.

Eg: Nani is frustrating/inconsistent/etc even if Rooney or someone else has a worse game

Anderson is fat/ runs out of energy around 70th minute even though he sometimes is not
 
It's the same as the flack giggs gets for his style. People love to hate it when it doesn't come off and then lap it up when it does ie the assist for rvp, obviously giggs has more leeway with us and rightly so but you just need to accept that to get those sort of moments you have to put up with these players trying something tough that might not come off for a while.

Nani didn't really take any shots yesterday that weren't on, there was one in the first half where he shot near post which was probably the wrong choice but aside from that I don't see issues with the shots he took. If they go in we rave about it.

I could I could understand the crowd frustration in te first half, as a team we were playing far too relaxed and with there already bein a certain perception of nani, couple with the uncertainty over his future he became the easy targe for their frustration. But I don't see how anyone could say he was worse than Rooney in that first half, he was involved in virtually all our attacks, his movement was opening things up for us etc. second half the whole team picked up their intensity, nani included and we blew Fulham aside an again nani was involved in much of that.
 
Have a rewatch, trust me. Sometimes we form a shit opinion when watching the game live, you definitely have done that yesterday if you think he was "shit" in the first half.

As for "have a look at players faces"... are you kidding me?

The fact that you had to post "I do not dislike him" tells a story, I mean, why would anyone dislike a United player?

I have re-watched I always do, I' m an addict and have been for ever. I was not at the game yesterday but friends were and they say he was frustrating to say the least, he had so much room on that side a player of his ability should have set up a hateful of chances. The reason I wrote I do not dislike him was because he is one of the players that some think any criticism is based on personal dislike rather than a valid opinion!
 
So you formed such a poor opinion after having a re-watch... wow!

I'd absolutely love to sit down with a person like you and re-watch the game together to see where exactly you expect so much better and at the same time see what you say as Rooney does something very similar. As I said, general play was good, created a few chances, had a couple of moments (3 at most) in first half where he could've done better.

And you post "nothing short of awful"... madness.
 
It's the same as the flack giggs gets for his style. People love to hate it when it doesn't come off and then lap it up when it does ie the assist for rvp, obviously giggs has more leeway with us and rightly so but you just need to accept that to get those sort of moments you have to put up with these players trying something tough that might not come off for a while.

Nani didn't really take any shots yesterday that weren't on, there was one in the first half where he shot near post which was probably the wrong choice but aside from that I don't see issues with the shots he took. If they go in we rave about it.

I could I could understand the crowd frustration in te first half, as a team we were playing far too relaxed and with there already bein a certain perception of nani, couple with the uncertainty over his future he became the easy targe for their frustration. But I don't see how anyone could say he was worse than Rooney in that first half, he was involved in virtually all our attacks, his movement was opening things up for us etc. second half the whole team picked up their intensity, nani included and we blew Fulham aside an again nani was involved in much of that.[/QUOT


Rooney was poor no doubt but why does that mean we can' t legitimately criticise Nani? It' s nothing to do with perception it's all to do with performance given the time and space he was granted.
 
So you formed such a shit opinion after having a re-watch... wow!

I'd absolutely love to sit down with a person like you and re-watch the game together to see where exactly you expect so much better and at the same time see what you say as Rooney does something very similar. As I said, general play was good, created a few chances, had a couple of moments (3 at most) in first half where he could've done better.

And you post "nothing short of awful"... madness.


The uneducated usually resort to insult rather than discussion. Why does any criticism of Nani bring abuse and Rooney's name?
 
Rooney was poor no doubt but why does that mean we can' t legitimately criticise Nani? It' s nothing to do with perception it's all to do with performance given the time and space he was granted.

You thought Rooney was poor?

I thought he had a bad start for 20-25 mins and from then he was excellent, really grew into the game.
 
He's not match fit. Some people have problems getting it. He's probably getting more stick because of this contract negotiations - which maybe on his mind also. He was fine. Why some people need to rubbish players is beyond me.

Maybe if they supported the player, he'd be an even better player but there's a group who expect miracles and forget it's a team game. We won that game 4-1. Why is there ANY need to critisise anyone? Especially someone who's missed most of the season through injury
 
Why does any criticism of Nani bring abuse and Rooney's name?

It doesn't always bring abuse, I've criticised Nani for his form this season even before the injury, it wasn't good enough. But yesterday you claimed he was nothing short of awful in a game in which he created some chances and his general play was good. I'd guess his stats don't really fit in with a player who was "nothing short of awful".

Rooney's name gets brought up because United fans seem to be able to forgive Rooney for many of the things they would slate the likes of Nani for. Both players try things and as with Giggs, inevitably it won't come off on occasions.
 
Yeah I think to say he was awful is incredibly harsh, and tbh I wouldn't say Rooney was really poor either, you have to factor in that both are feelin their way back in, it's not like they were they were the only ones playing with some intensity missing in the first half, everyone was playing a little slow but we were still cutting Fulham up. Second half we added a bit more intensity and got the goals.
 
Maybe I should've left out the profanity, apologies.

But I stand by the fact that "Nani yesterday was nothing short of awful" is a poor opinion. I'm pretty certain the vast majority of people would back me up on that.


apologies accepted

Awful referred to his first half, second he was better . but still not good. No-one disputes his ability and at his best he is brilliant. But today was not one of those. The match fitness excuse is valid however the fullback was let go by Liverpool as past it years ago.
 
1st half Nani was pretty bad, 2nd half Nani was pretty good...

Isn't that the general consensus? Because that's pretty much how it was...
 
At his best he is brilliant. But today was not one of those.

I don't think a single poster claimed it was one of those. As I said, I think after watching the game today, Nani had a decent game. Some great interplay, decent passing stats and a couple of key passes in which Rooney should've scored 2 goals.
 
1st half Nani was pretty bad, 2nd half Nani was pretty good...

Isn't that the general consensus? Because that's pretty much how it was...

No, check out my first post. I'd advise anyone to re-watch that first half, apart from 2 moments he plays pretty well and should've had an assist to his name when Rooney hit the bar. I was really shocked as I was watching the game expecting a terrible first half performance from him and that just wasn't the case.
 
I thought he was pretty good in both halves. Constantly drew two players out of the game, beat his man quite often, was involved in most of our best passing moves and looked confident throughout. Good defensively too. The only downside was him taking stupid shots on 3 or 4 occasions once he got himself into good positions to pick out a man.
 
I thought he was pretty good in both halves. Constantly drew two players out of the game, beat his man quite often, was involved in most of our best passing moves and looked confident throughout. Good defensively too. The only downside was him taking stupid shots on 3 or 4 occasions once he got himself into good positions to pick out a man.

Completely agree with that assessment and as I said earlier, those moments seem to be enough with Nani to make people forget al the good that he's done before.

I'm sure some were pissed with him for not squaring to Rooney in the first half, but he started that play, made a great run, received the ball brilliantly and got himself into a great shooting position. Not many players would've passed there.
 
The most annoying Nani related aspect of yesterday's game was the crowd noticeably getting on his back at times. Absolute madness.
 
The most annoying Nani related aspect of yesterday's game was the crowd noticeably getting on his back at times. Absolute madness.

They done the same during the West Ham game too. Look back a few pages. It's so unnecessary, and you would think they could understand a player not hitting the ground running after being out a couple of months due to injury.
 
Completely agree with that assessment and as I said earlier, those moments seem to be enough with Nani to make people forget al the good that he's done before.

I'm sure some were pissed with him for not squaring to Rooney in the first half, but he started that play, made a great run, received the ball brilliantly and got himself into a great shooting position. Not many players would've passed there.

I can only think that for some reason yesterday that I got held up on something he did (maybe that). Because He could do nothing right for me yesterday.

However, after coming on here and seeing some of the views and how different my view was, I decided to re-watch the match last night. And yes, although he wasn't on top of his game (as expected), he certainly wasn't as bad as I tried to make him out yesterday, he did actually have a pretty decent game, so for that I apologise to the lad. I am not too stubborn to admit when I am wrong.
 
The crowd got on his back when he stood still with the ball. Strange that they would get on his back for that when Valencia does it a lot.

As for that curling shot that went wide, yeah he could've played in Rooney but imo he had a good shooting opportunity himself on his strong foot because he made space for himself quite well.
 
The most annoying Nani related aspect of yesterday's game was the crowd noticeably getting on his back at times. Absolute madness.

Aye, I noticed it too, it's mental really. Surely given the form of our other wingers, they should be desperate for one of them to actually hit form, yet they get pissed off when he dwells on the ball for more than a second.

Why wouldn't he want to leave?
 
Showed today why he is easily our best winger. Hopefully he keeps getting starts and goes into a nice purple patch for the rest of the season
 
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