Yeah it's the same with Young to be fair, Valencia gets more leeway because he just gets on with his job.
Valencia hasn't really needed any leeway up till now, he's been generally excellent.
all you lads telling nani to put pen to whatever contract is being offered...the next time you ask a raise from your manager or client, i hope they tell you to fookin buckle down and work hard to have a future while at the same time your co-worker is on a larger wedge providing feck all quality.
and those focussing on what other people are earning rather than focusing on their own performance generally aren't going to be the kind of employees that are going to get big raises.
It's hardly an endearing quality, is it?
It wasn't directed at Nani by the way
I assume most of us would do that regardless, and those focussing on what other people are earning rather than focusing on their own performance generally aren't going to be the kind of employees that are going to get big raises.
Sadly I could see Nani as the kind of player that would be tempted by the money offered in Russia. I can't see him getting a better offer from the main European leagues, so I'm not worried about him leaving for Spain, Italy or Germany. But quite a few top Portuguese players don't seem to mind going to Russia.
Sadly I could see Nani as the kind of player that would be tempted by the money offered in Russia. I can't see him getting a better offer from the main European leagues, so I'm not worried about him leaving for Spain, Italy or Germany. But quite a few top Portuguese players don't seem to mind going to Russia.
I probably phrased that poorly and my Dad would give me a slap if he read that because it could easily apply to him! What I meant was if you've got an employee complaining about what someone else is getting paid all the time it's not going to endear you to the man in charge of the wages, if you now what I mean? I wasn't suggesting those who complain about others' wages aren't hard-working.
i'm not sure. Wasn't there a story that zenit wanted to negotiate with nani but nani turned off his mobile as he had zero interest in going to zenit? I think the story was if he had to go to zenit he wanted massive compenstation in terms of wages to offset the lower competition/prestige that a move to russia would offer and it was clearly a number that zenit would not pay and nani probably knew that zenit wouldn't pay.
At one point, the 25-year-old turned off his mobile phone so that he could not be contacted.
A source close to the player said: “It wasn’t an accident that Nani was incommunicado. He told his agent to ask for silly money if Zenit wanted to talk. He expected them to turn him down flat, but they still wanted to talk.
“In the end, Nani turned off his phone and told people he was with at the time not to divulge his whereabouts if anyone called them.
You think? Nani still talks about becoming one of the best in the World, often. He can't become that in Russia. For my money he'll end up at Juventus or the like if he does leave United.
I probably phrased that poorly and my Dad would give me a slap if he read that because it could easily apply to him! What I meant was if you've got an employee complaining about what someone else is getting paid all the time it's not going to endear you to the man in charge of the wages, if you now what I mean? I wasn't suggesting those who complain about others' wages aren't hard-working.
In which case I think he'll be better off here. The fact he hasn't signed a new deal and that i can't see clubs like Juve matching he current wages, make me think he might be tempted by the money in Russia. Veloso, Neto, Alves and Danny all play in Russia and Ukraine, so it doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal to the Portuguese national set up. 4 of their national team players are in Turkey.
I'm not saying he will go there, it's just a much greater possibility than if virtually all our bigger name players were in a similar position.
Nani crashes with police car.
Driver of the police car suspended.
It sounds like Nani's OK, but says a passenger in the police car had minor injuries.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-21483958
I doubt it's just the money here that is the problem. Maybe he just wants to join a club that puts less emphasis on the defensive side of being a winger (a team that doesn't set up in 4-4-2 maybe) and where, like with his country, he'll be a nailed on starter.
I can certainly see why Nani might think he'd be better off elsewhere.
I wouldn't read too much into him not being in the Madrid squad by the way. It was never a game in which he was going to be used. Just look at the way we set up with Rooney on the wing and Jones & Carrick in the middle. Even the substitutions were all about keeping it closed at the back, Anderson on instead of Hernandez etc. Considering he's hardly played, SAF was never gonna use him in Madrid.
You can bet your life he'll be in the squad for the home leg though, when we might just need a game changer to come off the bench.
Is Nani any more inconsistent than Valencia? Or is just a case of Nani being held to a higher standard than Valencia?
I doubt Nani feels the same way, I'd guess he'll be completely pissed off at not featuring in the biggest game of the season.
The fact is, we haven't really missed him this season, or certainly not to the extent you might expect. I think that says a lot.
Valencia was highly consistent up until this season. In fact, he's still consistently... unfortunately consistently shite.
.Is this really true? I think we've been crying out for an in-form winger, whether it be Nani, Young, Valencia or Giggs.
But how do you measure consistency then? Since 2009 to the start of this season I am sure Nani has more assists and more goals than Valencia so why is one considered consistent and the other inconsistent?
It makes you wonder about the general quality of our wingers when despite not one of them being particularly good we can still dominate a league and score plenty of goals.
It would be a boost though if just one of them could start performing, but given the reverence Nani was held in 18 months ago (plenty would say world class) I don't think his absence has left a world class hole.
Giggs has been performing, on the wing as well as in CM.
Well if so then I guess he's not less consistent. It's a good question actually, I dunno, I guess you'd have to look at how they're clustered. Theoretically Nani could have more but they could all be over a couple of months in 09...
Also, I'm not just talking about goals and assists. My impression of the two - let's be generous and say when in form - is that Valencia is pretty predictable but almost always does his thing well; whereas Nani is highly unpredictable and capable of magic, but often makes the wrong choice or tries something very hard that doesn't come off.
