Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances

Status
Not open for further replies.
:lol:

This always happens. For 5 and a half years no one has let Nani be his own man.

Umm, he shoots with both feet extremely well. Ronaldo is even better. Hence Ronaldo-esq.

Rooney's long range passing in Scholes-esq.
 
But it's basically inaccurate, isn't it? He's not a Ronaldo-esque player, and he doesn't hit his shots much like Ronaldo either. They can both shoot with both feet from range, but so can a lot of other players
 
He added the cutting edge when he came on, some great strikes and he got a deserved goal, his cross for Hernandez' goal was pitch perfect. Hopefully this gets him a start against QPR at the weekend.
 
Umm, he shoots with both feet extremely well. Ronaldo is even better. Hence Ronaldo-esq.

Rooney's long range passing in Scholes-esq.

RVP's flick tonight was Berba-esq, Welbeck's falling over his own feet was Heskey-esq, Smalling's shit distribution was Rio-esq. They're their own players...a good pass, shot or flick is simply something they've developed in their own repertoire.

I'll always say it with Nani, whether it's a little tiny comparison on a little attribute or the man as a whole, the Ronaldo comparisons from day one have definitely affected his relationship with the fans and probably had some direct effect on his form over his career with us at some point.
 
Nani in for Kagawa, Cleverley in for Welbeck, hope Jones is fit, done.

Yes I know Danny did really well in the first leg but Cleverley gives us the midfield coverage in Kagawa's absence and someone has to make way.

Why would you drop Welbeck?

I'll be honest I have no idea what I want the manager to do against Madrid, following the good performance by most in the 1st leg coupled with Vidic, Cleverley and Nani I could name 13 players who I want to play in the 2nd leg, no idea who the best 11 out of those 13 are though I'd probably go with something like the below though

---------------De Gea---------------
Rafael---Ferdinand---Evans---Evra
----Jones----Carrick----Cleverley----
Nani-----------RVP-----------Rooney
 
Ok guys, realism here. Nani had a good half, but do you not remember the first game of the season when Hazard had a good game vs Wigan?

All I could read was 'Its Wigan' etc etc.

I took the point on board and the same goes here.

45 minutes vs Reading in the FA Cup does not suddenly mean the rest of the season can be forgotten about, he has had a very inconsistent season.

When hes on the top of his game hes a great player, but that's no good if hes only on the top of his game for one game in the cup, and a few dotted about here and there. You need players who are consistently playing well or you can never know what you are going to get when you put them out there.

Give him QPR, get him games, but giving him Real Madrid would be suicidal at this stage imo.

Bale and Wilshere are comfortably better than Nani, and both would almost certainly benefit your team more if you bought them and sold Nani in the summer.

Nani has proved himself on the highest stage before which is more than can be said of the 2 players you mention. His performances against your own team, Bayern, and in the Euros just gone, prove how good he is. I just hope he gets to play his remaining potential out here because on his day he is genuinely one of the best attackers in the league
 
His best game in quite a while. Definitely has chip on his back and played like a man possessed. Hope he continues in this vain and help us in the quest for the much coveted treble.
 
Seemed to have more shots on goal yesterday than the rest of the season combined.

Hopefully he's sorted his head and dodgy form out and is coming back at just the right time.
 
I really hope this is a turning point for him, regardless of what happens in this summer. I don't think there's any doubt that on paper our best team includes an in-form Nani.
 
Hope he stays. When on form, it would give Fergie the necessary options to deal with specific opposition sides over the long and arduous pursuit of multiple trophies in a given year - especially with Valencia and Young being injured or out of form at given times. Adding Zaha into the mix seems like an insurance policy to cover Nani's departure, but not necessarily something that should keep us from resigning him.
 
Its been a while since we saw nani at his best. Was an absolute joy to watch last night. He creates so many chances, cutting inside and outside. Hope he gets a run in the team now, especially considering valencia's form.
 
Hope he stays. When on form, it would give Fergie the necessary options to deal with specific opposition sides over the long and arduous pursuit of multiple trophies in a given year - especially with Valencia and Young being injured or out of form at given times. Adding Zaha into the mix seems like an insurance policy to cover Nani's departure, but not necessarily something that should keep us from resigning him.

4 wingers is normal at a club like United. Zaha's arrival has nothing to do with Nani potentially leaving.
 
4 wingers is normal at a club like United. Zaha's arrival has nothing to do with Nani potentially leaving.

It would have a lot to do with it if Nani actually left, as it gives the club far more leverage in dealing with potentially losing him.
 
It would have a lot to do with it if Nani actually left, as it gives the club far more leverage in dealing with potentially losing him.

I get what you mean, but I think we would've signed Zaha regardless of Nani's situation.
 
I get what you mean, but I think we would've signed Zaha regardless of Nani's situation.

You may be right, or else it may just be the case that ambiguity over Nani's contract pushed us further towards considering a move for Zaha. In etiher case, its a win win situation for us to have both of them. It would be even better if Bebe continues to improve and starts to press for a first team spot.
 
I love good Nani. He's much better and less frustrating then shit Nani.

Fergie: "I thought Nani's contribution was terrific too. I had a feeling he would win the match for us."

Nani is a guaranteed starter against QPR after this performance. Still think we'll sell him in the summer, mind you.
He hit the badge on his chest after his goal, but I think that was just a coincidence rather than a sign of him wanting to sign a new contract.

Well if he had that feeling, makes you wonder why he didn't start him!

:lol:

This always happens. For 5 and a half years no one has let Nani be his own man.

You're making him sound like he's John Lennon or something.
 
I think he should be one of the first names on the team sheet for the rest of the season.

He offers things that Young or Valencia simply cannot. He can be inconsistent, but he can also be a matchwinner.

I also think he does a good job of tracking back and fulfils his defensive responsibilities. He may not to do this as well as Valencia, but just as attack is often seen as the best for of defense, I think he can help relieve pressure on our defense because he poses more of a threat than either Young or Valencia.

He is more effective on the counter attack than our other wingers (Valencia has the ability to be effective in these situations, but seems to have lost the tendency to be so).
 
By the way, it's utterly retarded how the crowd get on his back every time he pauses with the ball for more than three seconds. Even after he scored his goal last night, there was a moment on the edge of the box where he stood still and the whole crowd started shouting.
 
By the way, it's utterly retarded how the crowd get on his back every time he pauses with the ball for more than three seconds. Even after he scored his goal last night, there was a moment on the edge of the box where he stood still and the whole crowd started shouting.

To be fair if it's the incident Im thinking of he had Valencia to his right in about 20 yards of space and he decided to not pass the ball. He's a frustrating player not only for the fans but for his teammates just look at their reaction at times when he makes the wrong decisions. That being said he's also a fantastic player that's capable of things nobody else in our squad can do, you have to take the good with the bad I suppose. Nani on form = top class. Nani not in form = utter dog shite, there's no middle ground with him most of the time and it frustrates people.
 
To be fair if it's the incident Im thinking of he had Valencia to his right in about 20 yards of space and he decided to not pass the ball. He's a frustrating player not only for the fans but for his teammates just look at their reaction at times when he makes the wrong decisions. That being said he's also a fantastic player that's capable of things nobody else in our squad can do, you have to take the good with the bad I suppose. Nani on form = top class. Nani not in form = utter dog shite, there's no middle ground with him most of the time and it frustrates people.

Nonsense.

Absolutely delighted for him last night, coming on for 50 mins, changing the game, MotM & the praise from SAF.
 
To be fair if it's the incident Im thinking of he had Valencia to his right in about 20 yards of space and he decided to not pass the ball. He's a frustrating player not only for the fans but for his teammates just look at their reaction at times when he makes the wrong decisions. That being said he's also a fantastic player that's capable of things nobody else in our squad can do, you have to take the good with the bad I suppose. Nani on form = top class. Nani not in form = utter dog shite, there's no middle ground with him most of the time and it frustrates people.

As opposed to a Rooney, Valencia, Hernandez, Anderson etc not in form, who are what exactly?

I've seen sentences like this one so many times on here, and I don't get it, what players when not "on form" are not, you know, a bit crap? Unless you're a Messi or Ronaldo who when not on form are still good.
 
but for his teammates just look at their reaction at times when he makes the wrong decisions.

This again? Footballers get pissed off with their teammates all the time, it's not exclusive to Nani. Rooney pretty much has a go at everyone that doesn't give him the exact ball he wants, Phil Jones for example was on the end of a massive Rooney bollocking last week in Madrid.
 
Sctually I have rated him. I have always rated him as exactly this.

A very good player who when on form is capable of doing something special and producing some magic.

What I took issue with in the newbies and I would too anywhere else I see it is this notion that he is 'world class', which I guess is up for definition, and thats why some considered him to be there.

A player as inconsistent as Nani can not be world class regardless of how well he players when on form,. because to be at the highest level you must not be that inconstant.

No way do I think he is an untouchable player, and surely the best manager in world football agrees with me on this given his playing time when fit.

I'd class Rooney as World Class even though he is as inconsistent as they come. I'd class Nani of '09-'11 as World Class and see no reason why he shouldn't be able to recapture that form if selected and injury free for a few months. He was the best winger in the league for those two years and arguably the best right winger in Europe.
 
As opposed to a Rooney, Valencia, Hernandez, Anderson etc not in form, who are what exactly?

I've seen sentences like this one so many times on here, and I don't get it, what players when not "on form" are not, you know, a bit crap? Unless you're a Messi or Ronaldo who when not on form are still good.

It's not as opposed to though, all those players you mention have received negative comments of a similar thing. We all know how good the likes of Rooney and Nani are they are top players, I was just making the point that when they are out of form they dont just have a quite game they actually become frustrating to watch.

Nani last night came on and was great, he got his goal and put in a top cross for an assist, yet the incident you mentioned is when he could have played a simple ball out wide to Valencia who was in 20 yards of space, the crowd were yelling for him to pass it but he didn't and the play was broken up, again it's just unneeded bits of frustration that will always be in his style of play.
 
Nani last night came on and was great, he got his goal and put in a top cross for an assist, yet the incident you mentioned is when he could have played a simple ball out wide to Valencia who was in 20 yards of space, the crowd were yelling for him to pass it but he didn't and the play was broken up, again it's just unneeded bits of frustration that will always be in his style of play.

Yeah, but who gives a feck about a pass he didn't lay off to Valencia when in the same game he scored a goal and provided an assist. Why would you let that frustrate you given his overall performance? I can't understand it.
 
This again? Footballers get pissed off with their teammates all the time, it's not exclusive to Nani. Rooney pretty much has a go at everyone that doesn't give him the exact ball he wants, Phil Jones for example was on the end of a massive Rooney bollocking last week in Madrid.

I never said it was exclusive to Nani it does happen all the time, but with Nani it seems to happen a lot more than the rest.
 
Yeah, but who gives a feck about a pass he didn't lay off to Valencia when in the same game he scored a goal and provided an assist. Why would you let that frustrate you given his overall performance? I can't understand it.

Because it was a simple pass that could have led to a goal/chance. It didn't take away from his overall performance but you can see why some people would moan at not doing the simple things right, even more so after he's just shown what he's capable of. All im saying that he's a top player but at times he's frustrating.
 
Because it was a simple pass that could have led to a goal/chance. It didn't take away from his overall performance but you can see why some people would moan at not doing the simple things right, even more so after he's just shown what he's capable of. All im saying that he's a top player but at times he's frustrating.

And who isn't?
 
Not really, no. I can't see why people would care enough to moan about a misplaced pass when during the same match he provided two goals after coming on as a sub. It's a silly thing to get frustrated about. When Wayne scores a couple goals and has an excellent game, do you moan about him for missing a chance to get his hatrick?
 
It's not as opposed to though, all those players you mention have received negative comments of a similar thing. We all know how good the likes of Rooney and Nani are they are top players, I was just making the point that when they are out of form they dont just have a quite game they actually become frustrating to watch.

Nani last night came on and was great, he got his goal and put in a top cross for an assist, yet the incident you mentioned is when he could have played a simple ball out wide to Valencia who was in 20 yards of space, the crowd were yelling for him to pass it but he didn't and the play was broken up, again it's just unneeded bits of frustration that will always be in his style of play.

Exactly! But the way you phrased it was as if to say that it's a terrible trait of Nani's and one of the reasons he's such an annoying/frustrating player, when in reality about 90% of players look crap when they are out of form!
 
Nah you're right I get that a misplaced pass shouldn't even matter after his performance last night, like iv said he was good and it's nice to see him come back into the team and play like that. I don't want to make a case against Nani being a bad player because he's brilliant all im saying is that he has an annoying style of play at times, he can dribble around 3 players then knock the 5 yard pass to a teammate out for a throw in, that's the sort of frustration I get at times while watching Nani. He does the hard things extremely well and the easy things he makes look difficult at times, it's just something I find annoying.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.