You'd get people saying he'll be as good as George Best and when he can't quite live up to the insane hype he'd get criticised every other week for being "inconsistent" despite consistently making matchwinning contributions. Remind you of anyone?
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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You'd get people saying he'll be as good as George Best and when he can't quite live up to the insane hype he'd get criticised every other week for being "inconsistent" despite consistently making matchwinning contributions. Remind you of anyone?
Full backs in Spain are not the same as full backs here. Dani Alves is a prime example - he'd be a winger at any club in the PL, not so at Barcelona. It'd be madness, but I wouldnt rule it out.
To be fair here, Bale, Van Persie and Suarez are the only three that could be in the running.
And of the three, Bale is probably having the biggest effect on his team. Yes suarez is keeping liverpool afloat more or less single handidly at times, but where awards are concerned, the guy dragging his team to the champions league will always win out.
VP will get overlooked because hes a great player in a team of great players, Bale and Suarez are great in a sea of mediocrity.
Mata's up there.
Nah, I still think VP should get it. He's the top scorer and one of the best players (if not the best) in a team that is streets ahead of any other team in the league this season.
You'd get people saying he'll be as good as George Best and when he can't quite live up to the insane hype he'd get criticised every other week for being "inconsistent" despite consistently making matchwinning contributions. Remind you of anyone?
Kleberson?
Indeed, and RVP has 7 assists to add to his goals. So much for the argument of playing more centrally and not being able to produce more assists. Gerrard and Mata have 9 assists this year and Michael Carrick has 4. Arguing that Bale should not have more assists to his game is ridiculous unless he is the only one scoring goals.
Well the only clubs that could buy him are Real, who have Coentrao and Marcelo, and Barca, who have Alba, so it seems unlikely.
I'll put it this way Rossa, I'd much rather have Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez etc to pass to than Defoe or Adebayor. Of course he can and should be getting more assists but if he was playing with better strikers, he'd be getting a lot more. Some of the crosses he puts in would be gobbled up by VP, Rooney etc if he was playing in your team. Adebayor's usually offside or on the left wing himself when he whips them in.
Something like the 2nd goal yesterday btw, that goal was obviously created through a vicious freekick from Bale but he won't be credited with anything from the stats. In fact, I'm pretty sure Caulker will be getting the assist, when all he did was allow the ball to bounce off his back when he'd fallen on the floor.
But they always say that this United team is full of average players?Anyway, dragging your team to possibly winning league title and FA Cup, and advance in CL is more impressive than dragging your team from 4th position (last year) to possibly another 4th this year.
Anyway, dragging your team to possibly winning league title and FA Cup, and advance in CL is more impressive than dragging your team from 4th position (last year) to another 4th this year.
Again, while I think that VP should win it, this team is not the same team that finished 4th last season. We've lost 3 of our best 4 players during the summer.
Well that wont be happening
He shoots so often because hes been asked to chip in alot more with goals hence the reason hes often been played just off the front man these days because he actually is their most potent attacker since Defoe went off the boil, before that he was being asked to hug the touch line and stretch defences and then try get involved by occasionally coming inside.
Using the Downing comment is shambolic aswel when he aint even fit to lace Shaun fecking Derrys boots never mind any sort of comparison with Bale. The fact is if spurs had someone truly clinical up top Bale would have racked up a fair few assists by now, that is why they've been trying to get their hands on a decent striker all through the transfer window.
His crosses are lethal, he proper whips them bad boys into the box in the danger area where the keeper doesnt know whether to come or stay. Ya cant always drop a ball onto someones head or foot ala Beckham.
Well done, Harry Hewitt...
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Kléberson was a good player for sure but come on Brophs, we're talking about the really top drawer attackers here...
Well done, SAF...
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Scotch eggs do rule, in fairness.
Blasphemy!!!!
The funniest thing about that Bale article is that anybody believed Blues had £40 million to spend!
The second funniest is that they were going to let McLeish spend it.
The second funniest is that they were going to let McLeish spend it.
I feel sorry for Southampton, I really do. We didn't even pay 10 million in the end, we negotiated to give them an extra couple of million cash up front(so total of 7 million or so) when they desperately needed money in exchange for removing the 25% sell on clause.
Ouch
Agreed with this. Although you guys bought some pretty decent replacements, and with much better manager. I wasn't trying to belittle Bale (who is an excellent player), but just bigging up my man (no bi).
Yep, that's exactly why I'm here, to complain that everyone isn't swallowing his balls.
He has 6 assists in all competitions, to go with his 19 goals (none of them pens btw). That's 25 goals or assists in 33 games.
Seems Coentrao will be out. You could also say the same regarding their relative strengths in the front three. Real may move Di Maria on I suppose.
Are you simply not watching Gareth Bale? The same arguments about his assist rate are brought up after each match winning performance and it can only be the result of people not actually watching him. Last week this argument was shown to be totally flawed after the Newcastle game. Yet you've brought it up again. Did you not see the balls he played in for Caulkers chances? The deliveries were superb, but each time Caulker either headed straight at the keeper or great saves were made. This isn't a flaw in Bales' game is it!
This is why assist stat is so totally flawed and the much better stat is chances created. I find it shocking that anyone could actually watch the games and then still bring out this stupid argument about him lacking assists. He creates the 9th highest amount of chances per game in the Prem and more than any of our players. He creates quality chances in every game, which are then usually discussed in this thread and then forgotten about by his next brilliant performance.
We are leading with 12 points today because of RVP. In the first half of the season, our team, especially our defence, was a little in disarray and RVP dragged our arses through it with big game goals against Arsenal, Chelsea, Mancity, Liverpool (x2). And I haven't even mention the winning goals against the lesser clubs like Southampton, Cluj, West Ham, Newcastle.
Bale is having a great month of football where he's scored 7 winning goals in 5 games whereas RVP is having a little blip; managing only 1 goal the whole month. This is causing people to quickly overreact and start having memory loss.
Has anyone even said Bale has been better than van Persie this year? Surely not. Saying he's more likely to win the award is another thing altogether because the best player in the first half of the season tends to be overlooked for a player that really hits top stride in February/March - just before the votes.
Unless van Persie hits another rich vein of goalscoring, Bale will probably nail the award.
I agree in principle, but Bale is so attack minded now and is going and winning games in the final third by grabbing it by the scruff of the neck and doing things on his own.
I don't see Dani Alves being in England and getting a winger / free role, beating players and smashing in 15 goals a season, including some very important match winners.
He's an incredibly gifted, attacking wing-back, but so was Maicon of old.
I don't see any team in the World buying him and using him as a left-back.
Why are people saying he is the best winger in the world?
His "average" position yesterday:
So, we are talking about striker.
He has become excellent player this year, fair play to him for proving he can transform into different player, but he was never exceptional as a left winger, IMO.
Let's say we buy him, what would people expect from him? These type of match winning performances?
His "average" position yesterday:
So, we are talking about striker.
He has become excellent player this year, fair play to him for proving he can transform into different player, but he was never exceptional as a left winger, IMO.
Let's say we buy him, what would people expect from him? These type of match winning performances?
Anybody who doesn't want Gareth Bale in a United shirt at this stage, is just as insane as the people who didn't want RVP.
I haven't even begun saying anything about RVP being better. And you have also reiterated my point.
My post was in response to him saying that 'RVP will get overlooked because hes a great player in a team of great players'.
Spurs have some really tough games coming up, it will be interesting to see whether can Bale keep up the performances. I have a sneaky feeling that Spurs will start their bottling job now, despite it being delayed, and perhaps the Bale-hype will die down, again, by then.
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Agreed. I'm still baffled that people didn't want RVP. It was like saying "do you want an extra xx points a season", "Nah".
Current form he is the best player in the league, still young but the way he is improving has reminded me of Ronnie in 06/07, not saying he is going to be as good but clearly the lad is a world class player.
Why are people saying he is the best winger in the world?
His "average" position yesterday:
So, we are talking about striker.
He has become excellent player this year, fair play to him for proving he can transform into different player, but he was never exceptional as a left winger, IMO.
Let's say we buy him, what would people expect from him? These type of match winning performances?
He'd make a great left winger for us, I'm sure, but he'd be nowhere as influential as he is for Spurs right now where he's essentially a striker. I've been trying to point it out already, but it doesn't seem to register with some.