I doubt it. I dont think clubs around 5th and 6th in the league would pick him there when he produces so little in the final third and they'd ask him to do the same job we do as a central midfielder. Only he might find it harder to get into the team as his peers work harder and might be selected in front of him because of that.
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I doubt it. I dont think clubs around 5th and 6th in the league would pick him there when he produces so little in the final third and they'd ask him to do the same job we do as a central midfielder. Only he might find it harder to get into the team as his peers work harder and might be selected in front of him because of that.
perhaps not this league but what about a 5-6th place side on the continent?
I think he'll be kept simply because Scholes will most likely retire and there are question marks over Fletcher's ability to return to football in a meaningful way. If we had one or two more options in midfield I'm almost certain he'd be shown the door. I think his injury-proneness alone is enough to warrant him being moved on. As soon as he shows some good form and looks like going on a good run in the team he invariably gets injured. Its not his fault but its hardly what your looking in a player when you consider the caliber of our club.
The thing is at times this season I thought he looked really good, unfortunately for him they were fleeting moments rather than something consistent.
The thing is at times this season I thought he looked really good, unfortunately for him they were fleeting moments rather than something consistent.
Your not the only one to be fair I had a lengthy debate with Brightonion and I'm always right over him earlier this season and they backed him to the max. To be fair to them he does have the ability but after 5 year the writing was on the wall hes just not consistent or fit enough imho. Sad for someone with that ability but move him on but only if we get a quality midfielder in. His impact would hardly be missed as much as he's very likeable!
What do you make of Jonny Evans saying that Ando is the laziest trainer, does it say something about his hunger for success?
The attacking midfielder in him is gone and I'm afraid we've wasted a potentially great player by trying to turn him into someone he simply cannot be. I remember how excited I was by the prospect of having him, he was rated as one of the most talented youngsters in Europe behind Messi, fast forward five years and he wouldn't even be considered good enough to start for most Premier League teams.
On his day he can be excellent but that happens like 5 times a season. The rest he's either injured, uninterested or simply poor. If we had more midfielders he would be gone by now but since we're likely to be left with only Carrick and Cleverley plus a 40-year old Giggs at the end of season, we should keep him as a squad player.
I've always hoped he'd become that consistent performer, because we all know he's got the ability. & I've always given him the benefit of the doubt.
But I'm starting to think moving him on might be best for all parties.
But I'm starting to think moving him on might be best for all parties.
I'm aware he has had a couple injuries but his level of fitness is not good enough for me, the fact he can't manage a full 90 minutes is not good.
It maybe best for him to move on in the summer.
It maybe best for him to move on in the summer.
Does he really have the ability to be that brilliant a player? Did we really have a potential "great"?
Or did he look really promising at an early age because of his physical build and speed but always lack an end product and its never come. With changing to play a deeper central midfield role not helping that side of things.
Or did he look really promising at an early age because of his physical build and speed but always lack an end product and its never come. With changing to play a deeper central midfield role not helping that side of things.
Final season for him here, unfortunately. But i think it would be hard for SAF to let him go as he seems to have good faith in him and also seems to be a very likeable guy in the squad as well.
I wonder how much he would fetch in the market. Not much, presumably.
He should pick up the ball and just dribble through players more. Whenever he attempts this he cuts right through.
I guess being injured all the time and worrying about getting minutes the next game takes this out of you.
I guess being injured all the time and worrying about getting minutes the next game takes this out of you.
bem brazil would probably buy him for 20 million so he could be their full time spokesman/marketing symbol.
Fifa value him at £3.8m, if that's any good to go by 
Fifa also values Evans for £3m and I got him for £2.6m.
At those kinds of levels it makes no sense whatsoever to sell him, unless he pushes for it. I cant imagine his wages are prohibitive.
He won't go for much, certainly below 10 million mark. It's not about money though, he's simply not good enough to be relied on and selling him would open up one extra space in 25-man squad as well as free up wage budget. It's annoying because he once looked like he could become a first team player here, especially at the beginning of last season alongside Cleverley but then the usual Anderson returned. No one would have expected him to be this average when we bought him in 2007.
A lot of the same people who moan incessantly about our midfield and how direly we need to sign a new midfielder are also certain that, in addition to the two likely retiring this summer, we should sell one of our few CMs for a shit fee when he clearly doesn't want to leave. It's rather odd.
Agree with the post after yours. I am more about buying midfielders than selling them at this point in time.
He isnt good enough to rely on? So we buy reinforcements and stop relying on him.
Space in the squad? I am not actually certain about the specifics here but I dont believe there is pressure on us in this regard.
Similarly with wages, I dont imagine his wages are prohibitive though if he is a high earner that could be a factor. Does anyone actually know how much he is paid?
Is it worth selling him when Scholes is due to retire and we have no idea how good Fletcher is ever going to? I'd make a concrete decision on Fletcher before considering selling Anderson personally. However, a squad player who has a poor injury record is a problem in any squad IMO.
His injury record's not been that poor this season. He's had two periods out, one of 2 games and one of 8 games. It's also possible he had a knock the week of the Madrid match, as that's the only other time he's not been in the 18.
We could try signing a central midfielder to replace him I suppose.
He was decent, and that's about it, but it's hard to judge him when our whole team played bellow average, and plus Giggs-Anderson is probably our last midfield partnership to expect to complement eachother.
It't not so much about saturday...more about his career at Old Trafford as a whole.
We need to sign one anyway with Scholes properly retiring. I'd prefer to keep Anderson and bring in one or maybe two others and make a decision on whether Fletcher is going to be able to continue. I'd be happy enough with whatever changes we make here tbh as long as Carrick and Clev are retained but the point I was making was Anderson was down the pecking order on who I would clear out first. I like Fletcher but I think his top level career with United is finished in any capacity and Scholes will properly retire. No doubt we need to make some additions.
I've been one of his biggest supporters but I don't think he has the mentality to succeed here, I'm nearly sure every international break he takes himself to Dubai or somewhere.
I am starting to see this way of thinking.
He was a young lad when we picked him up and he has never met his early potential. That is the risk when buying players from overseas who are so young. He has hit his ceiling in my opinion and can still be a squad player here, however, he won't take us to that next level.
Even Cleverley has surpassed him in only his first senior season at the club.
He'll probably fetch £9 - 10 million back in Brazil and will be on at least £60k week which is £3 million a year. That money can be reinvested.
If the club have lost faith (and that may not be the case) then whats the point in keeping him? Its not good for him or the club.
For me losing the likes of Scholes and Giggs (whn eventually goes) will be a sad day, but along with Anderson who plasy sporadically we have three players who cover one position intermittently. Why not try and replace them, with a player who can perhaps play 35 - 40 games a season and be a regular, first choice player?
Cleverely is not as good as Anderson, at all.
What?
That's one bizarre statement.
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Ah jake
Mental statement.
I agree...I certainly wouldn't complain at having a couple of midfielders to replace Anderson and Scholes/Fletch + Nicky Powell in the first team picture?
Bullshit. This notion that creative attacking midfielders must carry a goal threat is a myth. Their job is to create goals. Anderson if he had been signed by another side lower down the table would never have been wasted as a center midfielder. He would have carried on from where he was at Porto and would now be amongst the best in the business in that role.
It's United that chose to convert him to a deeper midfield role. It was never his natural game.
Really? Do you think his passing and touch is good enough to be one of the best attacking midfielders in the world?
Not too far from the truth though, is it? Both his short and long passing are very good. When he is on form, his passing can be quite sublime, if not quite Scholesesque.
Also, his speed and body control always gives him an edge to carry the ball forward.
I've no doubt that he had world class potential, but I fear that ship may have sailed. I still hope and believe that he can be a good midfielder though, but he needs one to do a bit of the heavy work in defense for him and thus not play with Giggs. Cleverley suffers from the same as he too is strictly speaking an AM, and if I'm not mistaken also used to play out on the left wing?
Are United trying to convert too many into positions they are not too comfortable with, or do they play them here and there to develop their game further?
Sorry but I can't say I would describe some of Anderson's passing as Scholesesque
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