Poor form from Moyes, regarding Young.
Moyes So Far!
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It's a good thing most of you weren't around when Ferguson was appointed.
This is not really relavant! The squad Sir Alex inherited back then wasn't a champion and the club was in a state of flux when he took over. Moyes on the other hand came in with everything in place working with players who have been champions for a long time. Can't compare!
Totally agree. I think people are using a bit of revisionism, regarding the football that has been served up in the last 2 or 3 years. Moyes is trying to assess and get the best out of a squad that Fergie left behind, and the first 5 games, which is toughest start to the league I can remember, should not be the used as the benchmark in how Moyes approaches games or the style of football United play.
Fair play to moyes, he is calling it how it is regardless if its in his team, I like that, its pretty refreshing compared to the boorish replies of ' other teams players do it, its part of the game'
Might appear to have more respect to rival fans after that comment, even if United fans would rather he didnt.
I will feel sorry for Moyes when he returns to Goodison getting booed by most Everton fans. He gave them 11 years of fantastic work and now they hate him and call him all stupid names.
Who cares?
I can't tell how Moyes is doing really. I like that Jazunaj is getting games.
That has already happened.
Comments like "he's turned into Everton" doesn't take into account that for the last two-three years our performances have been like this in dead rubber.
Why's that?
That's already happening. Our football isn't different at all to what we produced under Fergie in the last few seasons but still he's getting blamed for negativity. Fergie was also giving every chance to the likes of Valencia and Young, there's nothing new there.
I'm sure managers criticise their players all the time behind closed doors, why should it matter if it's public or not!
Excellent comments by Moyes over Young.
Contrast that to the comments made by Mourinho over the tackle made by Ramires in the Super Cup, and you see a difference in the class between the two.
Contrast that to the comments made by Mourinho over the tackle made by Ramires in the Super Cup, and you see a difference in the class between the two.
I think it has been a decent start all in all. We have to remember the scale of the job, and how much of a leap it would be for any one.
We've kept all our best players, and we've signed a good player in a position where we've been lacking for years. We look extremely solid at the back. We have not been playing well going forward, but that usually solves itself during the season.
I agree with several on here when I say that I'd like to see Nani/Kagawa picked ahead of Young and Valencia far more often in the future.
The summer was a mess, but hopefully that was a one off. I'm not too pessimistic all in all.
We've kept all our best players, and we've signed a good player in a position where we've been lacking for years. We look extremely solid at the back. We have not been playing well going forward, but that usually solves itself during the season.
I agree with several on here when I say that I'd like to see Nani/Kagawa picked ahead of Young and Valencia far more often in the future.
The summer was a mess, but hopefully that was a one off. I'm not too pessimistic all in all.
Indeed, Im on that side too, I thought it was refreshing from Moyes. I know some people dont like it though.
Young knows all about poor form.
Moyes hammered Fellaini in public too after that Shawcross incident last season.
I liked it. Might mean an end to the silly diving he keeps doing. It'll result in him never getting penalties if he keeps on diving.
He called him into training the next day, and Fellaini turned up thinking it was for the whole squad, but it was just a one on one session with Moyes
How did you get promoted?
No problem with Moyes criticising Young behind closed doors, if he thinks Young was in the wrong. Doing it publicly is another thing though, I'd have preferred it if Moyes had said something along the lines Fergie did the other year. I don't think Young did anything wrong on the first one though, the defender had his leg out and Young made sure he hit it. I do the exact same thing all the time when I play football matches.
Blackmail.
On a more serious note, what exactly is your problem with a manager criticising a player for blatantly cheating? Or would you prefer him to say nothing and then be a hypocrite in the future when an opposition player wins a penalty by diving? I found it refreshing.
I'd have an issue with a manager publicly criticising a player for poor form or a mistake, that can happen and it's unfair to make a real issue of it in the media, but I think it was completely fair and quite pleasing to hear Moyes criticise Young for essentially cheating as it was when he had a go at Fellaini for being a prick away to Stoke last year.
Whatever a manager says in public, I'm sure he has already talked to the player first. No issue with what he said, better than the Wenger-approach of "Did not see the incident" or the Mourinho-way of dealing with it (i.e Super Cup)
Negatives - seems too cautious, over playing Young, Giggs, Fellaini transfer, Baines pursuit.
Positives - playing janujaz, getting Nani to sign, defensive solidity,
Positives - playing janujaz, getting Nani to sign, defensive solidity,
I liked his comments about young, somethings should be condemned in public, diving isn't like having a bad game, i don't like it when di canio hammers his players in public for playing poorly, that should be kept private, but when it comes to diving or poor behavior on the pitch the manager has to make it clear that it's not acceptable.
He also had a go at Phil Neville for diving against Liverpool. Apparently a right bollocking by Neville's admission.
It doesnt help that it tends to be the only thing you remember Young for, I hated Drogba, Ronaldo and Gerrrards Diving, but at least they were world class players so you could remember them for other things!
Moyes did the right thing imo.
Moyes did the right thing imo.
Moyes was 100% right to say that about Young!
Lets be honest, he's not exactly the class of player that we expect at Manchester United and diving is certainly not apart of what we want at this club!
He needs to buck up and start playing the way thats expected here. He had no problem doing a David May last season with the trophy celebration so it would be nice if he actually contributed to the success for a change!!
Lets be honest, he's not exactly the class of player that we expect at Manchester United and diving is certainly not apart of what we want at this club!
He needs to buck up and start playing the way thats expected here. He had no problem doing a David May last season with the trophy celebration so it would be nice if he actually contributed to the success for a change!!
as i've mentioned, no difference I can tell thus far except we're actually putting some pressure on the ball when it's in our end. something i've been bitching about for years.
So far he's done we'll for me, transfer window more down to Woodward than Moyes IMO (not as bad as made out though). For me he has settled better than Jose M, if referees had been stronger Villa would have took points and we would/could have got a penalty against Lampard. Jose also came to Old Trafford and never played a striker imagine Moyes doing this! The special one has struggled more than Moyes but I think that's more to do with the quality of players as United IMO are just simply better.
As much as he's not my favourite player he did contribute last year. So a bit harsh that comment think your dislike for him is clouding your memory.
I have no problem with Moyes saying that in public.
We'd all love to rid the game of cheating, so if it means starting with our own squad, so be it.
We'd all love to rid the game of cheating, so if it means starting with our own squad, so be it.
same way you did, sucked off a goat
Young is as good as Drogba ever was though.
You need to go to speck savers son!
Shh.
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