Bayer 04 Leverkusen vs. Manchester United

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Why are we so good in Europe and so shit in the league? It's basically the opposite of what I expected under Moyes, the unpredictable bugger.
 
Kagawa looks extremely disappointed for not scoring on that semi-counter attack where Valencia gets the goal. He's making a really good 60 m run and is just a better cross from Rooney away from scoring with the head.
 
Rafael's only 77 on FIFA anyways. Says it all.

Yeah fifas shit. He's at least an 83 on pro evo, I can't remember what rating exactly because pro evo is shit this year too.
 
Time to start giving Kagawa a chance in the league in this position, we look so much more balanced as a side with him there.
 
Souness is hating this. I don't think he's ever been particularly anti-United (or at least not as blatantly as others) but he hates being wrong.
 
Sigh. Have you watched football for any length of time or...?

Yup. How is Ozil fitting in at Arsenal? I guess he's only started in 3 EPL matches. ;) Adjustment is one thing. But if you spend your time on the bench watch exactly is he adjusting too? The colour of his jersey. Fact is Fellaini is #5 MF or a second striker on a team like Everton. Right now, Rooney owns that spot and Kagawa should be his back up.
 
Rafael's only 77 on FIFA anyways. Says it all.
ye that's actualy the one rating that really stood out, which is saying something...how the feck can you give Rafael a 77 rating when he was without a doubt atleast the 2nd best LB in the league last season (Zabaleta was arguably better), and also United's 2nd/3rd best player last season. It's like these people don't even watch football.
 
Yeah fifas shit. He's at least an 83 on pro evo, I can't remember what rating exactly because pro evo is shit this year too.
Aye, they give United good ratings, being OLP.

But somehow still have Rafael look like Bob Marley..... Agreed the game is shit this year, proper disappointed in that.
He's excellent in FM :)
Yes he is! Vital for playing as United.
 
Not to be a pedantic cnut, but Can (no.10) actually is playing left-back tonight (as far as I can tell).

Well then we laugh at schmeichel. Then we laugh at carragher for not realising and pointing out schmeichels mistake. Then laugh at sourness for being a cnut. Okay?
 
Why are we so good in Europe and so shit in the league? It's basically the opposite of what I expected under Moyes, the unpredictable bugger.

We weren't "so good" in the first half today at least, and my foggy memory can't recall us being "so good" at all since Moyes took over. (not intended slating of Moyes, just my memory)
We have moments of greatness instead of a through and through great performance or period (over more games).
 
He is, but as silly as Schmeichel sounds, he is right it is their number ten playing left back.


But Carragher was correct. Can is the left-back.

Schmeichel just sounded like that one mate you've got who is lost on a topic conversation but repeatedly jumps in with the one tidbit of knowledge that he actually has.

Embarrassing stuff.
 
Is it goal difference or games against that decide groups?
 
I couldnt watch first half, we deserving the lead?


Very. Just before we scored Evans saved Rio and everyone else. Him and Kagawa have been very good. As has Giggs, Rooney and Valencia
 
It's never, ever given, but I don't understand why that isn't a penalty.
 
Leno punched Kagawa with both hands without touching the ball.
Surely that's a penalty?
 
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