Shinji Kagawa

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Revealing more about Kagawa's health, as well as Fellaini and Smalling, the boss continued: "It was a bad sickness. He thinks he ate too much, and he had to get his stomach pumped, but I think he is okay."

What a season. :lol:
 
How retarded is it that we missed an important attacking player from an important game, when one striker was out suspended and another clearly struggling with fitness, because he ate too much and had to have his stomach pumped?

Seriously, what the feck are they doing at this club? This has to be one of the most ludicrously retarded reasons for missing a game that I've ever heard.
 
I have never heard of someone getting their stomach pumped from eating too much.
 
I have never heard of someone getting their stomach pumped from eating too much.
I have Mel, back in Nam, the year was 69, the conditions were rough, the wings were spicy.

A lot of good men had to get their stomach pumped that day, even now, thinking back it just ... it's tough, y'know? Seeing those men so powerless, so lifeless, so ... full.

God damn Charlies, they knew there was too much spice but they wouldn't stop, they just ... wouldn't stop.
 
I heard that Kagawa got pumped and I immediately thought "Oh, Mad Winger, what have you done?"
 
Considering how poor our CM-alternatives are it would be interesting to see Kagawa instead of Cleverley next to Carrick. He is probably the most complete passer in the club (maybe second to Rooney), and he has great awareness too! His long range passing is decent, and in thight areas he is excellent, passing it on one or two touches, with both left- and rightfoot. In addition he has quick feets. As a CM we would avoid putting him with his back to the goal as often as an AM, as well.

We've seen several attacking players succeed in a deeper position the last couple of years (Kroos the latest and best example). Kagawa is a well diciplined and brightplayer with several of the qualities we are searching for. I think it could be wortwhile a shot. Maybe not in the situation we are in, but at some point.
 
Considering how poor our CM-alternatives are it would be interesting to see Kagawa instead of Cleverley next to Carrick. He is probably the most complete passer in the club (maybe second to Rooney), and he has great awareness too! His long range passing is decent, and in thight areas he is excellent, passing it on one or two touches, with both left- and rightfoot. In addition he has quick feets. As a CM we would avoid putting him with his back to the goal as often as an AM, as well.

We've seen several attacking players succeed in a deeper position the last couple of years (Kroos the latest and best example). Kagawa is a well diciplined and brightplayer with several of the qualities we are searching for. I think it could be wortwhile a shot. Maybe not in the situation we are in, but at some point.

I've always wondered if there was a way to accomodate Kagawa and Rooney in a system in front of Carrick. Similar to the way Ozil and Ramsey step ahead of Arteta in most games but also do their midfield duties too (Granted, Ozil and Ramsey are completely different players).

Obviously Rooney has been much more of a forward thinker, but having 2 forwards hasn't really worked for us this season, so somewhere and sometime there has to be some tinkering in the system.
 
I've always wondered if there was a way to accomodate Kagawa and Rooney in a system in front of Carrick. Similar to the way Ozil and Ramsey step ahead of Arteta in most games but also do their midfield duties too (Granted, Ozil and Ramsey are completely different players).

Obviously Rooney has been much more of a forward thinker, but having 2 forwards hasn't really worked for us this season, so somewhere and sometime there has to be some tinkering in the system.


There is certainly a way. Bayern plays a 4-1-4-1 and Rooney and Kagawa could play in the offensive roles there.

The problem is that Rooney will not accept playing in any other position than striker/cf most probably which is why we have all the problems we do.
 
Hope he hasn't overdone it at the buffet again.

Can't quite get over the bizarreness of that affair. He stuffed himself to the point where he couldn't breathe and had to get his stomach pumped? I mean, bloody hell - what manner of man is this? Must have a condition of some kind, surely? A normally functioning young man would have to eat an insane amount to end up in such a state, you'd think.

Anyway, let's all pretend this never happened.
 
Hope he hasn't overdone it at the buffet again.

Can't quite get over the bizarreness of that affair. He stuffed himself to the point where he couldn't breathe and had to get his stomach pumped? I mean, bloody hell - what manner of man is this? Must have a condition of some kind, surely? A normally functioning young man would have to eat an insane amount to end up in such a state, you'd think.

Anyway, let's all pretend this never happened.

Maybe he's depressed.
 
Hope he hasn't overdone it at the buffet again.

Can't quite get over the bizarreness of that affair. He stuffed himself to the point where he couldn't breathe and had to get his stomach pumped? I mean, bloody hell - what manner of man is this? Must have a condition of some kind, surely? A normally functioning young man would have to eat an insane amount to end up in such a state, you'd think.

Anyway, let's all pretend this never happened.

There was a report in japanese that Kagawa and his camp arent very happy about it because apparently, that's not what happened.
 
I've always wondered if there was a way to accomodate Kagawa and Rooney in a system in front of Carrick. Similar to the way Ozil and Ramsey step ahead of Arteta in most games but also do their midfield duties too (Granted, Ozil and Ramsey are completely different players).

Obviously Rooney has been much more of a forward thinker, but having 2 forwards hasn't really worked for us this season, so somewhere and sometime there has to be some tinkering in the system.

Arteta is actually another example of a player who was deployed in a lot more attacking position, but managed to play at an even higher level deeper in the pitch. Scholes and Giggs are other examples of players who has adopted. Rakitic and Gundogan more recent ones. Even Schweinsteiger was considered an attacking midfielder in his youth.
 
For what it's worth, my sister is a doctor and she says there's no such thing as getting your stomach pumped from overeating unless it was a case of food poisoning. How much food would you need to eat anyway?
 
I've been known to put away a lot of food on occasion. A LOT of food. But I've never come close to needing to get my stomach pumped. I have no idea what that must look like, the plate of food he put away. I want more details. 1) when exactly did this happen? Was it the evening of the Everton game itself? 2) what was he eating? 3) exactly how much did he eat, and in what timeframe? 4) was this the first time he has comforted himself with food? 5) was anyone watching this frenzied eating? And if so, why didn't they record it?
 
Oh mel is ahead of me. Not sure what's going on behind scenes. What a bizarre story
 
I've been known to put away a lot of food on occasion. A LOT of food. But I've never come close to needing to get my stomach pumped. I have no idea what that must look like, the plate of food he put away. I want more details. 1) when exactly did this happen? Was it the evening of the Everton game itself? 2) what was he eating? 3) exactly how much did he eat, and in what timeframe? 4) was this the first time he has comforted himself with food? 5) was anyone watching this frenzied eating? And if so, why didn't they record it?

Ando.
 
I don't like this. If it wasn't overeating then Moyes shouldn't have said it was. It's embarrassing for the player. It does nothing but piss Kagawa off. He's lucky that Kagawa isn't the type to go mouthing off to the press.
 
As far as I have been able to gather, the rumours will now have that Shinji is in a bit of a state - because Moyesie, the old media master, briefed the press that he, Shinji, had been "over eating" (whatever the feck that means in this context). But a rebuttal from anyone is not forthcoming, because Shinji - that inscrutable bastard - is not willing to talk about what really happened. It sounds almost silly enough to be accurate.
 
Ye i agree with steven but to be fair players do this all the time. i'd rather kagawa and his agent say nothing but this is not a perfect world...what i did like was that kagawa wants to succeed at the club and be the first japanese to make name for himself
 
Who knows what the actual reason is, people don't get their stomach's pumped for eating too much as far as I know. Doesn't really matter though, I doubt he'd be pissed off because Moyes told the media "I think he ate to much or something".
 
Right, so we're having a go at Moyes now for saying it? Either he believed it was true or he was deflecting from the actual story. Either way, he's not the first manager to do it.
 
it doesn look good for moyes though. i know i'm coming across like a grouch but even though moyes wasn my choice at all for united manager, i really want to get behind him but he keeps saying weird stuff in the press.

for the shaktar presser, the press officer had to step in after he said the newcastle defeat raised his spirits.....WTF
 
Right, so we're having a go at Moyes now for saying it? Either he believed it was true or he was deflecting from the actual story. Either way, he's not the first manager to do it.

I think it was the latter brophs. Some of the odd things Moyes has said have been deflections.
 
I think Moyes may have stuffed the lad himself - proper highland fare by the bucket - to beef him up some. Part of what that Dutch stalker of his means by "Jurassic" training methods, I reckon.
 
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