Manchester United vs. Cardiff City

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Im out of the country - can someone tell me how we are set up? 4-5-1 with Mata CAM?

Pretty much, although when we're off the ball it's a 4-4-2 for some reason. Mata presses up even further.
 
Young has been one of the better players tonight. I can't understand constant slagging him when it's groundless.

He has done absolutely nothing positive all match. Has he actually ran at and then beaten the fullback once?
 
Don't think Giggs was that bad. Not his fault he is getting picked in CM. He's defensive contribution equals 0 but we knew that from the go. At least he was able to play some neat passes. How Val is still getting games though is beyond me. He has done absolutely nothing apart from hit the post 3 yards out with his head.
 
Seeing as we appear to have few qualms at presenting Cardiff with attacking opportunities, it will be a question of which manager can improve their team's decision making the most i think.
 
Actually I'd say most of it is tactical. Our line of defence is so deep, which makes a huge gap between the defenders and midfielders, leaving the attackers isolated. There's no pressing at all from us. Those 2 issues have probably been our biggest problem this season. Push the defenders up 10 yards and we'd have better pressing as a team, we wouldn't have to watch Evans and smalling sit on the ball all the time and Cardiff would have less space to pass it around like they have.

It's a strange one, I remember being quite surprised with the high level of pressing at the start of the season.
 
That midfield 4 is simply horrendous. Two talentless and ineffective wingers who're woefully out of form, a centre back and a 40 year old winger. Mata is obviously still adjusting to the team but even a front 2 of RVP and him can't solve a dreadful midfield.
 
What about letting Rooney play there until we do?
I've been saying the same thing all season. Either Moyes doesn't realise that he's our best option there bar Carrick or he doesn't want to ask for such a sacrifice from his star player
 
We are finally resembling a better Everton team. How many times did you see Pienaar and Baines down the left do what Evra and RVP were doing? Play the ball into the box, return the pass to the fullback and you're in business.

We are still lacking movement. Everyone is just stood there looking for the ball at their feet.
 
RvP looking good when in possession, Mata hasn't done much bar a couple of very good passes, midfield non-existent, defence looking shaky as always. Cardiff ran the last 30 minutes of the half.
 
He has done absolutely nothing positive all match. Has he actually ran at and then beaten the fullback once?
I dont want Young here, I hope we sell him but seriously you need to open your eyes a bit. He hasnt been anywhere near as bad as being made out. You have forgotten his role in our goal?
 
He has done absolutely nothing positive all match. Has he actually ran at and then beaten the fullback once?

Aparat for setting it up for the goal but yea, he's done feck all match.

Why dont we ask the rest of the thread if Young is playing well. Maybe you are mistaking some runs/crosses from Evra as Young

Be my guest and no, I'm not blind, I'm certainly not mistaking those two.
 
young crossed the ball for the goal and valencia hit the bar, that's sufficient for them to start the next game!
 
with liverpool being so strong this season - i don't see them dropping many points.. hence i can honestly think that it is going to be an impossible feat for united to get the 4th spot..
 
I was worried Moyes's shithouse tactics would somehow conspire to dull Mata's debut, and he's not disappointed me. 4-4-2 with two wingers in shit form, and Giggs and Jones trying to control the middle. Wahey!
 
Awful performance but at least we're winning.

We look so vulnerable when we lose the ball, no surprise there really considering the midfield we have out. This is exactly the kind of shit that used to go on last year except we had RVP scoring at will so we could kind of accept it - he starts tonight and surprise surprise we're winning again but the midfield is just asking for trouble.
 
That midfield 4 is simply horrendous. Two talentless and ineffective wingers who're woefully out of form, a centre back and a 40 year old winger. Mata is obviously still adjusting to the team but even a front 2 of RVP and him can't solve a dreadful midfield.

to be fair I think Moyes knows this very well...and has kind of hinted at it. I suppose it will be all part of the rebuiding process in the summer........in the meantime....hmmmmmm
 
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