Well he will be at the World Cup anyway. I say we buy the players before he joins up. We only need three. I'm sure he could get the rest playing a lot better than they currently do.
Who would you have as our new manager
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Well he will be at the World Cup anyway. I say we buy the players before he joins up. We only need three. I'm sure he could get the rest playing a lot better than they currently do.
Push hard for Klopp at the end of the season. Otherwise van Gaal is a decent option. If we're going to persist with Moyes for another season, I think Ancelotti will be available.
Why not add Mourinho, Ancelotti and Pep to the list if we're ignoring whether or not a manager is actually obtainable?
I'd just go Van Gaal because he's available and is as good an option as any other that we could realistically steal from another club anyway.
I don't mean for this to sound belittling or anything so apologies ahead of time, but how does Dominos from RefCafe know that any of these managers is unobtainable? What makes de Boer or montella unobtainable?
Even Klopp, arguably the hardest one to get on the list, is not impossible. The board contacts his agent, says we're interested and puts every effort to get him in. If we fail, as I already said, we move down the shortlist. It's criminal not to try. I much rather that Klopp comes out in a year and says that we were interested but that he didn't want to leave Dortmund than say that we never contacted him.
In the past few years, we tried to get Lucas, Hazard, Fabregas, Bale (if you believe the rumours) and failed. The club obviously doesn't sit back and say X is unobtainable. And thank goodness that's the case. Our club should not be arrogant but also should not have a defeatist attitude.
Get rid of moyes when we go out of the cl and give giggs a go till the summer
if moyes flukes the cl then all hail king moyes and give him another year
if moyes flukes the cl then all hail king moyes and give him another year
If Moyes flukes the CL I'm going to bet on Iran to win the World Cup.
We should try to give Klopp a blank checkue on transfers and his wage, but still, I think that it would be impossible to get him.
So, my short list would look something like:
1) Van Gaal
2) Bielsa
3) Simeone
4) Prandelli
5) R. Garcia
6) De Boer
7) Pochetino
8) Martinez
9) Ole
10) Montella
Similarily to Klopp, I haven't included the likes of Mourinho, Rodgers, Wenger, Pellegrini, Ancelotti, Blank or Conte. We could make a phone call to them, but chances are from very low to 0 that they would come.
So, my short list would look something like:
1) Van Gaal
2) Bielsa
3) Simeone
4) Prandelli
5) R. Garcia
6) De Boer
7) Pochetino
8) Martinez
9) Ole
10) Montella
Similarily to Klopp, I haven't included the likes of Mourinho, Rodgers, Wenger, Pellegrini, Ancelotti, Blank or Conte. We could make a phone call to them, but chances are from very low to 0 that they would come.
If Moyes wins the champs league I will drive to your house, and bath your feet in milk.
Unless you mean just winning tomorrow..then the deals off.
I do wonder would Rodgers be attainable? And yes, I'm serious.
Impossible. He's already talked about being the next Shankly.
Shame, he's the anti-Moyes.
I did mean the whole cl but the deals off anyway as
1. Explaining the scenario to wifey seems complex
2. I dont want my feet to smell of milk
Van Gaal, Hiddink, Ancelotti or Prandelli.
I have an idea. Forbes lists Dortmund's net worth being 394 m$. Converted into GBP that's 240 m£. And apparently our transfer budget is 200 m£. How about we buy no players in the summer and Glazer boys pick up a roughly 85 % stake in Dortmund instead. They'll have the overwhelming voting majority and we can bring their whole squad + management team to United. Klopp + Hummels + Subotic + Reus + Gundogan + Bender - all muppet dreams in one go. Wankfest.
That's either feckin' genius or feckin' retarded. Either way I'm on board.
Well, it would have been cheaper for us to buy Leeds United than Rio Ferdinand all those years ago. Unfortunately it doesn't really work like that.
Van Gaal's name seems mentioned more often than not lately, I think his football is very entertaining, but he has almost as many failures in his time with clubs as he does successful trophy laden seasons.
I remember his Barcelona side being very adventurous but an absolute liability at the back, similarly with Bayern I thought his defensive setup could have been better, he failed in his first spell as the Dutch national team manager and failed when he returned to Barca years later.
He's one of those guys who comes in a clear defined way of playing, which ideally is what we're looking for, but at the same time he would need time to install his manner of play into our club which could well mean a fair spell of immediate failure before transitioning into a succuessful way of playing.
That being said in my current mood I'd still have him over Moyes anyday of the week, but then right now I'd also take the tea lady over Moyes.
I remember his Barcelona side being very adventurous but an absolute liability at the back, similarly with Bayern I thought his defensive setup could have been better, he failed in his first spell as the Dutch national team manager and failed when he returned to Barca years later.
He's one of those guys who comes in a clear defined way of playing, which ideally is what we're looking for, but at the same time he would need time to install his manner of play into our club which could well mean a fair spell of immediate failure before transitioning into a succuessful way of playing.
That being said in my current mood I'd still have him over Moyes anyday of the week, but then right now I'd also take the tea lady over Moyes.
I just don't see a van Gaal working well with Ferguson still in some form of capacity at the club. The same maybe for Klopp.
I want Klopp. Good philosophy, entertaining football, entertaining guy, has won stuff.
I'm not sure, got to the Champions League final and won the Bundesliga with Bayern in his first season, if anything it seems that he's someone that'll have a direct and large short term impact on the playing style, and whilst his personality will doom him the longer he stays, the change in the style will be beneficial for the following years. I have to say I'm coming round to this idea. He's a big personality but that's what we need, if we're always worried about Fergie clashing with the new guy then we're doomed.
Then probably it is time for Fergie to not work with the manager. The manager is the most important person int he club, right?
I want Klopp BAD, hes bloody lovely in every sense of the word i love him a bit.
I dont understand all the people saying he would never come to United?? he said in an interview last year that he would consider the premiership and also openly praised United. I really think we could get him ! come on Woody get in there and take the man home in your strong arms.
I dont understand all the people saying he would never come to United?? he said in an interview last year that he would consider the premiership and also openly praised United. I really think we could get him ! come on Woody get in there and take the man home in your strong arms.
No-one is saying that. Just that he won't come right now. It may be that after a few years he will leave BVB, but now chances seems low.
Klopp is the obvious choice and should be our first option no matter what. If he doesn't want to come then fine but it's worth the attempt.
Once Klopp is ruled out there are a few candidates who are roughly equally qualified so it's hard to choose. For Christs sake don't go for someone like Martinez though.
Once Klopp is ruled out there are a few candidates who are roughly equally qualified so it's hard to choose. For Christs sake don't go for someone like Martinez though.
klopp wouldnt turn down united in a million years.
people underestimate the size of united.
people underestimate the size of united.
If Moyes does leave the new manager should be in the job at the beginning of the summer break. Otherwise the club may be looking at another wasted summer transfer window.
Eric Cantona.
If we've got £200m to spend, why not wave it under Klopp's nose as an incentive, if he really needs one?
Perhaps we should offer Cardiff an immediate trade? We'll get the lift of a legend as (caretaker) manager who knows how the team should play, and they get a manager that'll try to make them hard to beat in their relegation battle - perfect. I'm sure Fabio and Zaha would be delighted with the trade
I don't think it would matter one bit to either of them. van Gaal in particular strikes me as a man with a Mourinho-sized ego and wouldn't be the least bit intimidated and would probably have minimal contact with Ferguson.
No offence, but feck off.
I don't think any club could lure Klopp. You overestimate the size if you think you'll get him.
The Times list him with possible candidates to succeed Moyes.
I think there's a 0 chance of that happening. If he does leave (I hope he doesn't, I'd rather lose Suarez than him) then it won't be to United.
Of course. He'd be stupid to leave you now, and even more so to join us from you, and he isn't that.
Montella, Pochetino and Ole are bad choices IMO as they are inexperienced and the jump will be too big.
We should aim at Simeone, Conte, Blanc, Klopp and at last resort Van Gaal, De Boer and Martinez.
anyone that can handle the heat of the "post fergie era".....
pretty obvious moyes has failed this with flying colours , his press conference today coming across as arrogant as though he knows he's not going anywhere
pretty obvious moyes has failed this with flying colours , his press conference today coming across as arrogant as though he knows he's not going anywhere
I don't think that experience is important. If you are good enough, it doesn't matter if you are experienced or not. Pep Guardiola and Antonio Conte are great examples of inexperienced managers who did wonders immediately.
apart from van gaal, with the others you mentioned we risk having the same problem as with moyes ie players who won a lot more than their boss has. I would also expect someone like van gaal to make a clean sweep - he s much more authoritarian than moyes. Then you mentioned lot of ppl with zero experience in premiership.
others like bielsa would be hounded out of job after a few days - abu media would have a field day with his eccentric style
That's true. Experience isn't all, but an unexperienced manager is more of a gamble than a proven winner. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's like signing Ronaldo, Nani and Anderson from the same league at a young age. One of them became the best in the world, the rest didn't.
Both Barca and Juve also gambled with inexperienced Vilanova and Ferrara, with neither really working out (for various reasons). Conte had at least promoted both Siena and Atalanta to the Serie A.
Rijkard got his first club side relegated, did excellently with Barcelona, and was then fired by Galatasaray and Saudi Arabia. I'm not sure what my point is with that example, other than that shit happens. Someone like Martinez could become an instant hit or do worse than Moyes - it's hard to say for us outsiders.