Who would you have as our new manager

Red_Aaron said:
Spaletti is available now, his Roma side played wonderful football, granted we took them apart evenutally but still they played with real verve in that home leg, he even had the ball boys in on the tactics! if we're going for all out attack managers stick him on the list too
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We're essentially just adding anyone that looks like a supervillain to the list now, so why not. Klopp reminds me of a German Hank Scorpio.
 
Why not Frank De Boer ? The man was genuine pedigree as a player and now as a manager. He literally embodies everything Manchester United used to pride itself upon. In his 3 years at Ajax he's won the league 3 times on the trot and they're well under way to securing the 4th. That's success. He's an attack minded manager schooled in the Ajax way of playing beautiful total football. That's exciting football. One week I see them play 4-2-3-1, then 4-4-2, then 3-5-2, then 4-3-3 without a drop in performances. That's tactical nous. He's brought on some really talented young player through the academy - including Christian Eriksen, Toby Alderwereild, Viktor Fischer, Stefano Denswil, Joël Veltman, Mitchell Dijks, Fabian Sporkslede, Davy Klaassen, Mats Rits and wants to hark back to the glory days of Ajax. If appointed he could establish a similar setup at United and we could start producing more technical young players. That's promoting youth. If we don't get Klopp De Boer would be an excellent choice. Apparently Liverpool were really keen on him before settling for Brenton. He's just 43 and extremely ambitious, has a great football philosophy, is highly articulate and can fine-tune the club from ground up, instead of tearing apart the club structure and replacing it with worse parts and iPads. What's more he could bring familiar faces of success back at United - Stam and VDS instead of F**k Off Round.
 
Red_Aaron said:
Spaletti is available now, his Roma side played wonderful football, granted we took them apart evenutally but still they played with real verve in that home leg, he even had the ball boys in on the tactics! if we're going for all out attack managers stick him on the list too
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In that case, Prandelli post-WC is a better bet. Now that's an intelligent and sympathetic manager who has the goods for a top club.
 
Mauzindark said:
Why not Frank De Boer ? The man was genuine pedigree as a player and now as a manager. He literally embodies everything Manchester United used to pride itself upon. In his 3 years at Ajax he's won the league 3 times on the trot and they're well under way to securing the 4th. That's success. He's an attack minded manager schooled in the Ajax way of playing beautiful total football. That's exciting football. One week I see them play 4-2-3-1, then 4-4-2, then 3-5-2, then 4-3-3 without a drop in performances. That's tactical nous. He's brought on some really talented young player through the academy and wants to hark back to the glory days of Ajax. If appointed he could establish a similar setup at United and we could start producing more technical young players. That's promoting youth. If we don't get Klopp De Boer would be an excellent choice. Apparently Liverpool were really keen on him before settling for Brenton. He's just 43 and extremely ambitious, has a great football philosophy, is highly articulate and can fine-tune the club from ground up, instead of tearing apart the club structure and replacing it with worse parts and iPads. What's more he could bring familiar faces of success back at United - Stam and VDS instead of F**k Off Round.
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I'm gonna have to take a look at this guy. I knew he was good, but he sounds amazing.
 
Mauzindark said:
Why not Frank De Boer ? The man was genuine pedigree as a player and now as a manager. He literally embodies everything Manchester United used to pride itself upon. In his 3 years at Ajax he's won the league 3 times on the trot and they're well under way to securing the 4th. That's success. He's an attack minded manager schooled in the Ajax way of playing beautiful total football. That's exciting football. One week I see them play 4-2-3-1, then 4-4-2, then 3-5-2, then 4-3-3 without a drop in performances. That's tactical nous. He's brought on some really talented young player through the academy - including Christian Eriksen, Toby Alderwereild, Viktor Fischer, Stefano Denswil, Joël Veltman, Mitchell Dijks, Fabian Sporkslede, Davy Klaassen, Mats Rits and wants to hark back to the glory days of Ajax. If appointed he could establish a similar setup at United and we could start producing more technical young players. That's promoting youth. If we don't get Klopp De Boer would be an excellent choice. Apparently Liverpool were really keen on him before settling for Brenton. He's just 43 and extremely ambitious, has a great football philosophy, is highly articulate and can fine-tune the club from ground up, instead of tearing apart the club structure and replacing it with worse parts and iPads. What's more he could bring familiar faces of success back at United - Stam and VDS instead of F**k Off Round.
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:lol:
 
Fergie interviewing Moyes's replacement.

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Mauzindark said:
Why not Frank De Boer ? The man was genuine pedigree as a player and now as a manager. He literally embodies everything Manchester United used to pride itself upon. In his 3 years at Ajax he's won the league 3 times on the trot and they're well under way to securing the 4th. That's success. He's an attack minded manager schooled in the Ajax way of playing beautiful total football. That's exciting football. One week I see them play 4-2-3-1, then 4-4-2, then 3-5-2, then 4-3-3 without a drop in performances. That's tactical nous. He's brought on some really talented young player through the academy - including Christian Eriksen, Toby Alderwereild, Viktor Fischer, Stefano Denswil, Joël Veltman, Mitchell Dijks, Fabian Sporkslede, Davy Klaassen, Mats Rits and wants to hark back to the glory days of Ajax. If appointed he could establish a similar setup at United and we could start producing more technical young players. That's promoting youth. If we don't get Klopp De Boer would be an excellent choice. Apparently Liverpool were really keen on him before settling for Brenton. He's just 43 and extremely ambitious, has a great football philosophy, is highly articulate and can fine-tune the club from ground up, instead of tearing apart the club structure and replacing it with worse parts and iPads. What's more he could bring familiar faces of success back at United - Stam and VDS instead of F**k Off Round.
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I still think Alex McLeish has at least matched De Boer in his career and his nationality makes him a better choice.

On a serious note De Boer does seem like a good call. Ajax European performances haven't been all that great though - knocked out by Salzburg this season, went out to Steaua before etc.
 
Sarni said:
On a serious note De Boer does seem like a good call. Ajax European performances haven't been all that great though - knocked out by Salzburg this season, went out to Steaua before etc.
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Hmm you're right De Boer in Europe has been nothing to write home about. But then again they did tactically outclass City at Etihad last season and finished higher than them in the group stages. Even this year they beat Barcelona at the Nou Camp. I feel the problem with Ajax in Europe is that every time a player performs he's snapped up by bigger clubs. The likes of Vertonghen, Eriksen, Alderweireld, De Jong, Vorm blossomed momentarily under De Boer before moving on. That leaves no room for consistency or experience which is vital in Europe and every year important first teamer and replaced by newbies from the academy.
 
Sandikan said:
With the way it's gone under Moyes there's this view that we need to ship a lot of players out, when in reality we simply aren't getting the best out of the top players let alone the squad ones.

A new manager now, might be able to save us such a clear out.
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We do need to be shipping some of these players out. Yes we have some very good players who aren't being utilised properly, but we also have some who are no better than squad players/bench players, not definite first team starters. Problem is the latter are in the majority.
 
Revan said:
In hindsight yes. If you look at the time when COnte took over though, they had just finished seventh in the league and Milan had a good team. In fact, it was a Milan reject which was the catalizator of their success. And then some brilliant signing for only a few money (Vidal who cost less than 10m, Pogba free, Barzagli free etc). It is easy to say now that they have more money than others (which wasn't the case anyway, both Milan clubs had higher revenues by the time he took over) but it was his vision that lead them to success. Barzagli, Pogba, Bonucci, Llorente, Vidal, Pirlo and Tevez cost combined less than Fellaini. So, money had nothing to do with their success.
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It's Marotta rather than Conte who choses the players juve signs. Conte's job is more that of a coach.
 
Who oh why didn't we take the blue pill go for Mourinho :(
 
dev1l said:
It's Marotta rather than Conte who choses the players juve signs. Conte's job is more that of a coach.
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Not sure about that. If I am not mistaken, he is similar to Guardiola on that ascpect, he picks the targets and can vetoe them. @Nedved
 
do.ob said:
Do you think they sign many players that Conte does not want?
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there were instances where conte was not happy. If i m not wrong when the signed asamoah, conte wanted a winger instead. He still wants one (nani) apparently
 
Pexbo said:
Who oh why didn't we take the blue pill go for Mourinho :(
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That's the question that there's will series of books dedicated to answering in decades to come.

Was it the single worst decision in history behind the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor?
 
Revan said:
Not sure about that. If I am not mistaken, he is similar to Guardiola on that ascpect, he picks the targets and can vetoe them. @Nedved
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Marotta makes the signings but Conte has some influence, much more than the average Italian coach. I don't see Marotta signing a player Conte does not want/need.

dev1l said:
there were instances where conte was not happy. If i m not wrong when the signed asamoah, conte wanted a winger instead. He still wants one (nani) apparently
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I'm not sure about that. He wants a winger, but not at the expense of Asamoah who he seems to rate highly.
 
Mauzindark said:
Why not Frank De Boer ? The man was genuine pedigree as a player and now as a manager. He literally embodies everything Manchester United used to pride itself upon. In his 3 years at Ajax he's won the league 3 times on the trot and they're well under way to securing the 4th. That's success. He's an attack minded manager schooled in the Ajax way of playing beautiful total football. That's exciting football. One week I see them play 4-2-3-1, then 4-4-2, then 3-5-2, then 4-3-3 without a drop in performances. That's tactical nous. He's brought on some really talented young player through the academy - including Christian Eriksen, Toby Alderwereild, Viktor Fischer, Stefano Denswil, Joël Veltman, Mitchell Dijks, Fabian Sporkslede, Davy Klaassen, Mats Rits and wants to hark back to the glory days of Ajax. If appointed he could establish a similar setup at United and we could start producing more technical young players. That's promoting youth. If we don't get Klopp De Boer would be an excellent choice. Apparently Liverpool were really keen on him before settling for Brenton. He's just 43 and extremely ambitious, has a great football philosophy, is highly articulate and can fine-tune the club from ground up, instead of tearing apart the club structure and replacing it with worse parts and iPads. What's more he could bring familiar faces of success back at United - Stam and VDS instead of F**k Off Round.
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Sounds painful.
 
Klopp top of new 'superbreed'of young managers
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Options available if Arsenal and United cut bosses loose

As career crises tighten still further around the throats of David Moyes and Arsene Wenger, a huge question refuses to go away.

It has a brutal simplicity asManchester United's Moyes faces yet another round of biting criticism over his failed tactics and powers of motivation and Arsenal's Wenger recoils from two more desperate, hope-sapping performances from his talented but fragile team.

How long can two of the Premier League's leading clubs continue to turn their backs on a new super breed of young coaches? The word from Arsenal is that the club are fretting over the possibility that Wenger may renege on a verbal agreement to sign a two-year extension and create the 'Ferguson factor' vacuum which they believe lies at the heart of United's sudden and dismaying decline.

It is also said that Arsenal are pointing out that Borussia Dortmund's 46-year-old coach Jurgen Klopp, the flag bearer of the new generation of young, or youngish, master-coaches, is 'untested' in the Premier League. At so many levels, such a reaction to the possibility of change, vital change, at the Emirates is ridiculed by the realities of modern football – and Arsenal's own history.

PASSIONATE

The point is made most eloquently by the fact that the extrovert, passionate Klopp is precisely the same age as Wenger was when he replaced the fired Bruce Rioch in the summer of 1996. He also has a more imposing record.

Wenger arrived from Japan with two pieces of silverware, the Emperor's Cup and the J-League Super Cup, along with a French League title and Cup earlier acquired with Monaco. These were handy baubles on anyone's CV, but Klopp would come to the Emirates – or Old Trafford – with two Bundesliga titles snaffled from the under the shadow of the current rulers of Europe, Bayern Munich.

He also has the reputation for getting inspiringly close to his team. Klopp is passionate and outgoing, as we saw when his players ran Bayern so close in the brilliant Champions League final last spring.

By comparison, Moyes peers glassily into the headlights and Wenger's frustration appears to come perilously close to breaking point

The charge must be that both United, out of deference to the opinion of Ferguson, and Arsenal, in the stubborn belief that Wenger will finally break a run of nine trophyless years, have ignored the kind of coaching pedigrees which, if nothing else, would free both clubs from criticism that they are being run by managers who either lack the presence and hard instincts required at the highest level of the game, or, in the case of Wenger, have perhaps seen them fly away.

When Chelsea discarded Rafa Benitez and Manchester City lost patience with Roberto Mancini, they moved for Jose Mourinho and Manuel Pellegrini, vastly different characters, but both men who had established impressive levels of tactical sophistication.

Meanwhile, Arsenal kept faith in Wenger despite all the barren years, and United, having rejected Mourinho, decided to gamble on Moyes' ability to move on to the big stage. Elsewhere, the small hierarchy of super coaches have been underlining the potency of their methods.

At Bayern, Pep Guardiola has enhanced his status as the most coveted coach by leading his club at crushing pace to still another domestic title and shorts-odds favouritism to retain the Champions League.

Klopp lost his boy prodigy Mario Goetze and faces the departure of his principle striking arm Robert Lewandowski, but has still managed to keep Borussia Dortmund in the Champions League he came so close to winning at Wembley.

In Spain and Italy, there are other young coaches who have taken brilliantly to the task of creating new forces in the game.

Diego Simeone (44), having won league titles at home in Argentina, is leading La Liga and producing thrilling football with Atletico Madrid. He is also another challenger in the Champions League.

Juventus' Antonio Conti, who as a player won five Serie A titles and a Champions League is, at 43, overwhelming the Italian game nearly as profoundly as Guardiola is Germany's.

Wherever you turn you see the results of clubs having the nerve to invest in the impressive credentials of outstanding new coaches.

For United, particularly, there are examples as close at hand as the short drive to Liverpool. Both Brendan Rodgers at Anfield and Moyes' Everton successor Roberto Martinez are not only providing winning momentum in quick time, but can also claim to have remodelled their teams in a classic tradition revered by the fans.

At Old Trafford and the Emirates, such progress adds up to nothing short of a terrible reproach and for Moyes and Wenger the pressure seems guaranteed to become even more intense as United face Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarter-finals and Arsenal have Manchester City as visitors tomorrow.

After City's victory at United, Moyes ran into his most serious firestorm of criticism thus far. Former players Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Dwight Yorkeall cast doubts over the manager's ability to halt the slide.

Nor could Wenger have been hugely buoyed by the comments of Mathieu Flamini shortly after he had conceded a late own goal to drop two points against Swansea at the Emirates.

Flamini was invited to swear undying allegiance to the great Arsenal manager – rather as Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney had been on behalf of Moyes after victory over Olympiakos last week – but the response was similarly lukewarm. Flamini said: "We do not think about it (Wenger's situation). We focus on our season, our next match against Manchester City. Afterwards, what happens with the coach is his future – not ours."

Wenger did not have to be paranoid to receive this as something less than a vote of confidence. Nor did Moyes when Rooney ducked the question about whether the team owed their manager the victory over Olympiakos and said: "We owed it to ourselves – and the fans."

What is needed most pressingly, at both Arsenal and United, is maybe not the clatter of empty phrases but the hard evidence of a team benefiting from superior leadership.

The truth is that, if they care to look, plenty is available.
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http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/klopp-top-of-new-superbreedof-young-managers-30133799.html
 
If Klopp went to Arsenal in the summer, and Moyes stayed at United, I think the caf would explode.
 
If Klopp shows the slightest opening to become manager in England, then we MUST get in there with the biggest offer possible. It would be a disaster if he leaves Dortmund only to end up with one of our rivals.
 
Klopp. If he's not available I'd have Ray (Mr Bobbins) assisted by William (the freakishly astute kid) from the Full Time Devils videos.
 
Slevs said:
I actually would, hell, I would even start drinking again!!
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No need to sweat on it, Wengers said hes staying next year despite not having rubber stamped a new contract, hes a man of his word and proven so with similar contract renewals over the years, the only situation where I wouldnt see him at the Emirates next year would be if Arsenals board decided to go in a new direction, but considering they're likely to pick up the FA cup (based on the competition left) and leading the league for 2/3rds of the season.. its still a massive improvement over the last couple of disapointing years, and watching the Ferguson to Moyes horror show from afar they'd no doubt continue onward with Wenger at the helm.
 
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Yeah, Arsenal wont sack him and Klopp isnt going anywhere in the near future.
 
I'm going to say something scary, that I'm not sure has been put out there on this thread yet.

Wenger.

NOT saying is a good idea. I do not want this, but I'm cynical that utd might just be stupid enough to do it.
I'm certain regardless of what happens to arsenal this year he will be gone. I think it is what both parties want, a clean break.
The Wenger not signing new contract is eerily similar to what was happening to moyes last year. Fergie has been singing his praises recently and hes been his bum chum for a while now.

Imagine that....
 
Dracula said:
I'm going to say something scary, that I'm not sure has been put out there on this thread yet.

Wenger.

NOT saying is a good idea. I do not want this, but I'm cynical that utd might just be stupid enough to do it.
I'm certain regardless of what happens to arsenal this year he will be gone. I think it is what both parties want, a clean break.
The Wenger not signing new contract is eerily similar to what was happening to moyes last year. Fergie has been singing his praises recently and hes been his bum chum for a while now.

Imagine that....
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I dont see Arsenal getting rid of Wenger but if they do, him coming here wont shock me. Not ideal though, he's a great manager but we can do better.
 
Surely there is no way in hell Wenger would go to United. It would be the biggest turn-coat move ever. I wouldn't want him anyway, he's too soft.
 
Klopp or Simeone. The two best young managers around, very few steps up from Atletico/Dortmund but United is one, long term.
 
gooDevil said:
Rodgers deserves consideration, I like the sort of football he plays.
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I dont see why he'd want to come here. He's already building his side there, will get additional funds to make it further and is worshipped at Liverpool. They are also a huge club, so its not like he's leaving Everton for Man United.
 
Varun said:
I dont see why he'd want to come here. He's already building his side there, will get additional funds to make it further and is worshipped at Liverpool. They are also a huge club, so its not like he's leaving Everton for Man United.
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We could offer him a very lucrative contract, he may be happy to get more for his efforts. If FFP is for real then United will have a large advantage over Liverpool because our commercial and stadium revenue are considerably greater. We can use that to pay Rodgers more than Liverpool can afford to.

Likewise we could offer a bigger budget per year for transfers.

I don't know how things are at Liverpool as far as control over transfers and finances to resign players, but we might be able to offer him more control.

It's a bigger job, Rodgers might fancy the challenge.
 
For short term Van Gaal is the only option for me.
 
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