Politics at Westminster | BREAKING: UKIP

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The Tories are not cutting the NHS. Labour are.

I don't understand Grant Shapps though. He's genuinely the biggest idiot in politics. The Tories need to get Andy Coulson in ASAP. Their PR is abominable.
 
Can you run an election campaign from prison?
 
Bingo & beer :lol: Might as well have included a mandatory price freeze on cup-and-ball. That's what poor people like, right?
 
The Tories are not cutting the NHS. Labour are.

This is so i believe, best to keep that unwelcome truth from the Labour rankers though. ;) The holier-than-thou air that Labour figures take on is patronising to all those caught on the wrong end of their policies , no contrition at all much of the time. I don't think either party knows quite how to make the healthcare system fit for the demands of this century.
 
Bingo & beer :lol: Might as well have included a mandatory price freeze on cup-and-ball. That's what poor people like, right?
Fighting as well. If there's a way to cut taxes on fighting, the tories are the ones to find it.
 
I think Goodman dropped him in the shit from a great height - he's not coming up smelling of roses unlike the fragrant Ms Brookes (who's also guilty as hell).

You could be right - there's certainly more on him than Brookes.

The real question is why we're spending over £10m to get this through court. Coulson's not even anywhere near the dock yet.
 
should be an open goal for milliband at pmq's royal mail cheap sell off tories looking after their own etc.
governments over the last 30 yrs have got public sell offs completely wrong why have they not learnt from previous mistakes
 
I think the fact she is a woman is the reason for the backing. There is a lack of female representation in the cabinet and I think if she was a bloke then she would have been sacked a few days ago.

The bigger issue for me is the panel who reduced her liability from over forty thousand pounds to five thousand pounds and found she'd done nothing wrong. At best they're clearly incapable of self regulation, and at worst, they're all on the take and consider it no big deal!

Unfortunately, I think it's a bit of both.
 
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Do Culture Secretaries do anything? Surely there's absolutely no chance anyone but the Prime Minister would get the final say over press regulation and apart from that I can't think what there is for them to do, other than occasionally saying "aren't our sports-people lovely".

Genuine question, by the way. If you'd asked me, before this story broke, who held the post I'd only have been able to tell you it wasn't Jeremy Hunt anymore. Wondering if I should care more than I have or not.
 
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It seemed more than anything else a story that interested the press more than the general public.
 
Do Culture Secretaries do anything? Surely there's absolutely no chance anyone but the Prime Minister would get the final say over press regulation and apart from that I can't think what there is for them to do, other than occasionally saying "aren't our sports-people lovely".

Genuine question, by the way. If you'd asked me, before this story broke, who held the post I'd only have been able to tell you it wasn't Jeremy Hunt anymore. Wondering if I should care more than I have or not.

I'm surprised it's a cabinet post too.
 
Everyone should be interested when liars and thieves are running the country

I agree. It just seems this story was getting a massive push from the press( After the Leveson Inquiry , the press are just waiting for any slip up. Also Miller was in charge of press reform)
 
Do Culture Secretaries do anything? Surely there's absolutely no chance anyone but the Prime Minister would get the final say over press regulation and apart from that I can't think what there is for them to do, other than occasionally saying "aren't our sports-people lovely".

Genuine question, by the way. If you'd asked me, before this story broke, who held the post I'd only have been able to tell you it wasn't Jeremy Hunt anymore. Wondering if I should care more than I have or not.
It will be an important position in the run up to the BBC license fee negotiations, if you care about public service broadcasting.
 
It will be an important position in the run up to the BBC license fee negotiations, if you care about public service broadcasting.
That's a good reason. Pretty damn fond of the beeb, I am.
 
Holy shit, Labour have got Axelrod for the 2015 campaign. I'm suddenly about 100 times more confident.
 
Holy shit, Labour have got Axelrod for the 2015 campaign. I'm suddenly about 100 times more confident.

Axelrod has the best surname in the world.

It is huge though, hopefully he can get people talking less about Clegg and Farage and more about labour and why the tories have to go.
 
The wording on his wikipedia entry made me chuckle.

In April 2014 it emerged that Axelrod, fed up of advising successful candidates, had been appointed to the position of senior strategic adviser to the British Labour Party with a view to advising party leader Ed Milliband in the run-up to the 2015 general election.

I really can't see Labour losing the election though. A mixture of electoral system bias, the rise of UKIP and the downfall of the Lib Dems will surely be insurmountable for the Tories. I just hope that the Green Party manages to raise its profile at least a little alongside all this.
 
UKIP, I suspect, will sink towards the election. I'm not convinced how many will follow through and actually vote for them.

The Tories will probably come out on top, marginally. Labour are just unelectable and I reckon the closer we'll get, the more people will just revert to what we've got, which has actually been quite good.
 
It's too late to pitch for Funniest Poster, chief. :D
 
I reckon the last eighteen months or so has actually been as competent as a government has been in a long while. Progression on the economy, unemployment down, general coherence of policy etc. And that's despite Grant Shapps.
 
The wording on his wikipedia entry made me chuckle.



I really can't see Labour losing the election though. A mixture of electoral system bias, the rise of UKIP and the downfall of the Lib Dems will surely be insurmountable for the Tories. I just hope that the Green Party manages to raise its profile at least a little alongside all this.
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I'm still disappointed he lost his moustache though. Pretty much the perfect person though to address Labour's biggest weakness since 2010 though in being able to deliver a coherent message to the public.

I actually hope UKIP do well in 2015, not just in that it helps Labour but also because a 4th party makes PR a far greater likelihood.
 
I reckon the last eighteen months or so has actually been as competent as a government has been in a long while. Progression on the economy, unemployment down, general coherence of policy etc. And that's despite Grant Shapps.
None of that is down to the Tories, they've just surfed the global economic trends. There will be another year of favourable numbers which they'll pass off as their doing, a budget giveaway in April and a election win in May (helped by the UKIP protest vote not materialising at a general election, Lib Dem voters cutting out the middleman and Labour's pitiful lack of alternative policies).
 
None of that is down to the Tories, they've just surfed the global economic trends. There will be another year of favourable numbers which they'll pass off as their doing, a budget giveaway in April and a election win in May (helped by the UKIP protest vote not materialising at a general election, Lib Dem voters cutting out the middleman and Labour's pitiful lack of alternative policies).

A fairer comparison would be against the Eurozone. Correct me if I'm wrong, but despite being saddled with one of the worst deficits in the EU, hasn't the UK economy grown in this term (whereas it has shrunk in the Eurozone). Hasn't unemployment fallen (whereas it has risen in the Eurozone)?

Seems to me that "swimming against the tide" would be a better analogy.