paceme
Golly Gilmore
Overnight A&E due to close at stafford hospital and be outsourced to Wolverhampton and Stoke. That is fecking mental, there's a population of around 100,000 here and the nearest A&E is about 17 miles away.
The economy's something neither party can really crow about, the Tories were expecting to go into the next election with the deficit eliminated, pledging tax cuts. Instead, there's another parliament's worth of spending cuts. It's not as fatal an issue for them as it was appearing a year or so ago, but it's still not a point in their favour.Is it still the case though that the Tories intend to ring-fence the NHS budget post 2015 with Labour not yet willing to do so?
The economy is the stumbling block for Labour, i can't imagine that Miliband and Balls expected things to pan out as they have done.
The economy's something neither party can really crow about, the Tories were expecting to go into the next election with the deficit eliminated, pledging tax cuts. Instead, there's another parliament's worth of spending cuts. It's not as fatal an issue for them as it was appearing a year or so ago, but it's still not a point in their favour.
A lot of positioning from Labour and the Lib Dems recently that seem to emphasise what they agree on, and I'm coming round to that coalition being the likeliest outcome.
Whats wrong with any of that? And why are Labour a cult? (the party or the voters?)Who in the world is going to vote Labour at the next election? On what possible basis?
Unreal comments from Balls today saying that it'll be difficult to govern with the deficit they will 'inherit'. How does he have the nerve?
Labour isn't a political party - it's a cult.
Who in the world is going to vote Labour at the next election? On what possible basis?
Unreal comments from Balls today saying that it'll be difficult to govern with the deficit they will 'inherit'. How does he have the nerve?
Labour isn't a political party - it's a cult.
Well maybe they didn't expect the Tories to oversee the slowest recovery from a recession ever.
Whats wrong with any of that? And why are Labour a cult? (the party or the voters?)
That's all nonsense mate. Weve got headlines in all the papers today saying Balls had taken more responsibility for the financial crisis than any point previously, and I thought you we're making a point about labour internal politics, but your just having a go a voters for voting labour because of your own opinionsThe deficit we had was partially caused by Labour's irresponsible public spending. Is this even up for debate any more?
And the reason it's a cult is because voting for them is becoming an increasingly irrational thing to do for a huge number of reasons - the principle one being that it makes very little sense as a poor person to vote for a party that actively seeks to make you poorer.
But maybe that's social democracy, I'm not sure.
That's all nonsense mate. Weve got headlines in all the papers today saying Balls had taken more responsibility for the financial crisis than any point previously, and I thought you we're making a point about labour internal politics, but your just having a go a voters for voting labour because of your own opinions
If you want to live in a 1 party system, move to China? And what are you on about with labour making poor people poorer. Where are you getting that from. What policy of theirs gives you that?
I think all that is fair enough, but a vote for anyone but the big 3 is a wasted vote sadly.
Labour are the picture definition of populism, that's always going to be hard to go against.
Like the one the Tories fought against 3 years ago?
Routinely build up huge debts?
Not...really. Do you actually have any research to hand to prove this theory that Labour damage the poorest?
Like healthcare and pensions?
Even the biggest cnuts on the right baulk at letting poor people die.The Tories have made an absolute howler in maintaining the cost on the NHS. It's becoming the biggest burden a state has ever had to bear outside of military.
Even the biggest cnuts on the right baulk at letting poor people die.
Who in the world is going to vote Labour at the next election? On what possible basis?
Unreal comments from Balls today saying that it'll be difficult to govern with the deficit they will 'inherit'. How does he have the nerve?
Labour isn't a political party - it's a cult.
Most of the electorate. On the basis that the Tories and the Liberals are useless and cnuts.
You don't seem to realise that so many people who vote Labour do so with great regret, for the lack of any better viable option. A cult? I don't know a single Labour voter who actually likes the party as it is today. The dissatisfaction must be far more extreme than any Tories or Liberals have with their parties, who seem to do a fair job of representing the politics of their voters (probably not as racist or homophobic as some Tory voters would like, to be fair).
Yeah, yeah. Why are they dancing to Farage's tune then?The Conservative Party is not remotely racist or homophobic in the slightest, and nor are the majority of their voters.
Like the one the Tories fought against 3 years ago?
Most of the electorate. On the basis that the Tories and the Liberals are useless and cnuts.
The dissatisfaction must be far more extreme than any Tories or Liberals have with their parties, who seem to do a fair job of representing the politics of their voters (probably not as racist or homophobic as some Tory voters would like, to be fair).
The same Conservative Party whose majority of MPs voted against same-sex marriage barely a year ago.
If you're really going to criticize Labour for the banking caused financial crisis at least have the decency of not being further to the right. The deficit isn't what made people lose their homes and jobs. It's there and arguably bad, but it's not something that's going to stop joe average paying his rent.I want a ten party system. I want people to vote Green. UKIP. Whatever.
I don't criticise people voting left due to my own views. I want people to vote left. I just don't understand why anything apart from pure tribalism would make you vote for a party that routinely builds up huge debts which then negatively affects poor people the most.
The reality is that if you cock up the economy, poor people suffer. Labour always run a huge public sector overspend which usually ends in the Tories being obliged to cut. Even Labour now accept this.
And yet people will still vote for them, despite all the evidence pointing to that being immensely damaging.
Corporation tax cut by 2 per cent for companies with profits over 1.5m.
Why?
We Tories say, 'You're welcome.'We plebs thank you...