Come on, City, win the league for us!!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Come on, City, win the league for us!!
Even though its painful to be not be in the title race, I'm actually quite enjoying watching it without the usual annual pressure to win. And it'll be even sweeter when Liverpool get all their hopes up and end up with nothing.
Ian Ayre and Barry Hunter were both at the Roma game apparently scouting Pjanic.
That late win away at Fulham seems to have given them real momentum now. I'm fecking worried.
They're going to win it aren't they ? Just to complete the nightmare this season has become.
If Liverpool wins the title this season then well deserved. We had two chances to stop their momentum, yet we didn't. Especially the home game was frustrating to watch. I didn't recognize United. Knowing even a draw could dent their title hopes, we made it easy for them by bending over and not showing passion and desire during the whole game. I want my United back.
ah,history lessons being wheeled out. A true compliment to our relative situations.
A Liverpool with the cheek to say I'm living in the past!
It's more to do with the fact you seem to be using pics of past triumphs as some kind of personal therapy to get through the nightmare you're experiencing.
Nope. Just winding up scousers.
Who is wound up?
You are.
Haha, I'm pretty sure we'd all rather be in our shoes than your's at the minute pal. Whoever you think you're winding up, you're really not.
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Should we upset the odds and win the title of course it will change things. You give huge confidence to young lads coming through and create a winning mentality. United have had it for 2 decades and it makes your opponents fear you. As to you other questions. I don't think liverpool are over reliant on any one player. Gerard has been very good this year as has Suarez and Sturridge but likewise Henderson has upped his performances, Allen looks like a much improved player, Sterling is delivery goals and an threat with his pace, Coutinho has been excellent in outings but maybe lacks a consistent run, Flanagan has offer great cover at full back with Enrique out. The work of the team as a whole is what makes liverpool so much better this season. Yes there have been great individual performances and goals galore but if you ask what has impressed liverpool fans most I would say the true sense of teamwork and the willingness to make the hard yards for each other in this side. Who is to say the midfield is overachieving? Lots of young blood in there to prove themselves. As for the "When the goals dry up," scenario well you deal with that if it happens.
The above clubs could all outspend us in the last 4 years. It doesnt mean they spent wisely. Why would city buy a new defence? They have 2 of the best defenders in the league in Zabaleta and Kompany. De Mich seems like he is adjusting and Clichy or the serbian lad at left back are a very solid unit. I don't get that at all. United bringing in 3/4 big signings and changing manager could go either way. You have to bed in new players and a managers philosophy. It could go amazingly or could take time which Moyes isn't being given due to the fans not wanting him any longer. You could draw comparisons with the start of Fergie's OT career but why bother? I'll just get the football has changed stuff back when really only the back pass and offside rules have. Chelsea may well get there striker but they're doing ok without him. Chelsea will also have to look to replace Terry and Cole. You seem to be looking into a crystal ball and predicting next year before it's come. Why not see out this year first?
Liverpool have a young enough squad and I am very much looking forward to seeing them compete in multiple tournaments. It will be great to see how they get on in Europe and if they can add to the squad and with a bit of a break in injuries we could do very well. I would much prefer to be worrying about a CL quarter final than being idle in mid week.
What are you basing the assumption of silverware in the near future on? As for displacing United well you did that yourselves this year and Arsenal have self destructed their challenge and have constantly been at this point over the last 6 years and never quite delivered. What makes you think they will next year?
Agenda bias and wishful thinking.
Of course, your strikers are on fire. You have conceded a fair amount of goals though, and you wouldn't argue your defence is that good would you?
Ah ffs excellent player, like him very much. You could argue that he's not necessarily what you need primarily but he probably won't cost that much and will add extra quality to your team. And he won't be your only target anyway. Very coherent from Rodgers in any case, he'd fit in fine with the way you're playing.
Our defence at home isn't bad. It's away from home where we struggle.
It just feels like it is fate. After all United fans have been through this season, the downs and downs - it just seems written that Liverpool will win the league rubbing bountifuls of salt into already festering wounds! Ferguson leaves....and 9 months later, Liverpool are back on the perch, quite fankly against the odds. If you wrote this as a movie script it would probably be rejected as being too far fetched!!
Ah well, I suppose Liverpool have been suffering our sucess for over 20 odd years. Can't be too greedy I suppose...
Ah well, I suppose Liverpool have been suffering our sucess for over 20 odd years. Can't be too greedy I suppose...
A Liverpool with the cheek to say I'm living in the past!
Gooooooooooose is Alanis Morrissete.
Spurs at home...everything points to a home win apart from the fact that Spurs are a very unpredictable and inconsistent team - not only between games but also within games. They are all over the place one minute then very potent the next.
Spurs are about a potent as wet lettuce and have a history of losing at Anfield.
When have Tottenham looked particularly 'potent'? They're a mess of a team, don't be all EssexRob on us. You're going to thrash them, I don't have many doubts about it!
We're great in big games. They're shit in big games.
a look of love in both their eyes!
Liverpool are playing great football atm...no way they wont beat spuds.
Pool's attacking prowess papers over the cracks in their defense. They're so devastating going forward, it almost doesn't matter how reliable they're at the back. Not having to play in Europe helped them keep the players fresh, too.
Still, I'm shocked at how well they've done. Before the season, I didn't even consider them strong enough for the top four spot. Rodgers deserves the highest praise for his work.
Still, I'm shocked at how well they've done. Before the season, I didn't even consider them strong enough for the top four spot. Rodgers deserves the highest praise for his work.
Apart from losing the two best teams above you in the only games you've played against them.
Denied a goal in one and a penalty in the other, another day and we'd have gotten the rub off the green. Bodes well for us we are unbeaten since those game, eh?
By the way, City aren't above us.
Luck shmuck. You lost both. So i wouldn't call you "great" in big games this season. Great in the big games other than against the best two for sure.
A wrongly ruled offside goal v City and a clear penalty denied that could have made it 2-2 would suggest luck wasn't on our side. That said we were hardly a million miles away from either team, I am looking forward for them to come to Anfield.
I think next season will truly determine his credentials. He has surpassed expectations so far this season and have Liverpool attacking unit playing to it's maximum ability. Let's see if he and team can continue it in the longer term.
The second half was a horror show. Just like the city game. Liverpool always made it hard for us at Anfield, even in their worst years.
That's non sense. That wrongly ruled offside came way too early in the City game, you are better off crying about the missed sitter. Suarez with his reputation should not be crying about too many pens either.
Anyway this is pointless. Chelsea and City will be coming to anfield soon, we will see what's what.
Funny how people use no European football as the main reason why we're having a good season. If that's the case why was everyone saying we'd finish 6th or 7th at the start of the year?
They obviously underestimated you. But you can't seriously think that having less games to play this season had not helped you.
I think if you were in CL you would have still finished top 4 but would be closer to Arsenal right now than the top two
You could also say that if we had CL football then the likes of Costa & Mkhitaryan would have actually joined us in the summer, thus making us a more dangerous proposition all around.
In the 2011/12 season we had no European football & finished 8th. Assumptions about where we'd finish if we had CL etc are all completely fruitless.
You genuinely believe that a week's rest between PL fixtures has not aided you and kept your squad fresh? No one is denying the quality you have shown but the truth is no European games have helped to keep your squad fit for the entire PL campaign.
It's a false argument that Mourinho is peddling here.
Liverpool currently have a squad that has been built on four seasons of no CL football. That has a significant impact on the quality and depth of the squad. Effectively, the only real way to get out of that downward spiral of mediocrity is to buy very well and use the players you have the best you can. You also need a light fixture list to accommodate the light squad you are obliged to use.
Rodgers has done wonders with his resources and using the no midweek games argument is misleading. Chelsea, United, City, Arsenal and even Spurs have had the pull of CL football as well as the financial rewards. They have been operating on a different level in terms of player acquisition and pulling power. In those circumstances you can build a squad able to cope with Europe and the league.
Liverpool's recent history has created the restrictions that Rodgers is working within. Of course Europe would have compromised their season but Europe would've built a better squad so it's a false argument.
It's the new 'angle'.
Liverpool's brilliant form has to be qualified. It can't be just down to great team building and wonderful execution, it has to be reduced and lessened as an achievement. The no Europe is the quickest way to argue this point even though it is a spectacular simplification to explain Liverpool's form.
In has helped your lot in relation to the other title contenders. Noone actually thought you'd be good enough to compete with them.