Liverpool

It's the new 'angle'.

Liverpool's brilliant form has to be qualified. It can't be just down to great team building and wonderful execution, it has to be reduced and lessened as an achievement. The no Europe is the quickest way to argue this point even though it is a spectacular simplification to explain Liverpool's form.
That's an extremely oversimplified and sensitive viewpoint on a viewpoint. Noone is saying that Liverpool haven't got a heck of a lot right this season. There's been praise for that all season. But in relation to the other title contenders it does help to be able to focus on one competition and have he additional rest. Neither of those points are indisputable. You're just being extremely sensitive if you want all the factors discussed relevant to Liverpool's season to be only those that have made the job harder. Most of them are, and then there's one little factor which has made it easier. It shouldn't be much to put up with really.
 
You could also say that if we had CL football then the likes of Costa & Mkhitaryan would have actually joined us in the summer, thus making us a more dangerous proposition all around.
I think you have to be careful with those kind of assumptions. Having better players doesn't necessarily mean you'd be better. Rodgers has found exceptional stability and balance in your team, helped by the fact the starting XI hasn't had to change that much. Adding a game midweek, even aided with a few more players (some of whom would have been discovering PL football) would have changed that approach.

No one is saying that you're less worthy because of it. Rodgers has planned the season around this and been very clever to do so. But it's just a simple fact that your players haven't had to rotate that much and that there's definitely a groove in the team which is visible.
 
That's an extremely oversimplified and sensitive viewpoint on a viewpoint. Noone is saying that Liverpool haven't got a heck of a lot right this season. There's been praise for that all season. But in relation to the other title contenders it does help to be able to focus on one competition and have he additional rest. Neither of those points are indisputable. You're just being extremely sensitive if you want all the factors discussed relevant to Liverpool's season to be only those that have made the job harder. Most of them are, and then there's one little factor which has made it easier. It shouldn't be much to put up with really.
Countless posts on here go like this: "yeah done well but will be interesting to see what happens when they have CL to contend with next season".

It's an automatic qualification for this season's form. Might be over sensitive, but the scale of that being trotted out would support my point about it being a simplification if why Liverpool have done well.

As for no Europe helping Liverpool, my post above outlines why that is, to some extent, a spurious argument.
 
Countless posts on here go like this: "yeah done well but will be interesting to see what happens when they have CL to contend with next season".

It's an automatic qualification for this season's form. Might be over sensitive,
Oh God that is extremely sensitive. Of course it's going to be interesting to see how you do in Europe again, and of course it's had an impact on how your season has panned out. Everyone is saying you've been exceptional this year and exceeded expectations, no need to be so touchy about anything that's said. If you're champions at the end of the season, no one will care that you didn't have European football this year, all that will be remembered will be your league title. Like Utd and the countless titles where oppo fans went on about 'oh the league is just shit' 'oh that Utd team is one of the worst ever to win the league' and so on. No one cares.
 
This can't actually be there year, can it? I honestly don't think I ever believed it would happen.
 
They will beat Chelsea and city at anfield

It's their title to chuck away

They are going to win it

What a shit season
 
The only consolation I would have with Liverpool winning it is that it would be a great tribute to the 96 who died.
It would be the 25th anniversary.
 
This is bad. This is really bad.


But I could accept it only for what MUM said, I wouldn't begrudge any of the 96's friends and family a moment as long as they stop at 19.
 
This is bad. This is really bad.


But I could accept it only for what MUM said, I wouldn't begrudge any of the 96's friends and family a moment as long as they stop at 19.
That is it for me, too.
I just think it would be a great tribute.

I'd hope they'd never win it again though :lol:
 
I think they will lose both games against City and Chelsea. They have lost every game against other top four teams this season apart from the freak 5-1 win against Arsenal.
The 5-1 was at Anfield - not really a freak result given the goals Liverpool have scored at home. Chelsea and City have to do it at Anfield.
 
As great as it is for them, I want them to lose. I would rather we get 17th than they win the league.
 
As great as it is for them, I want them to lose. I would rather we get 17th than they win the league.
At least there would be excitment in that, at the moment, there is nothing to play for and that feels worse than playing bad and losing.
 
The Scouse aren't even top of the table yet and already I find the hysteria of their fans unbearable.

How on God's green earth did older United fans cope in the '70s and '80s at all? I've just asked my Dad and I think I've just bollocksed up his day. I've never seen him so empty whilst trying to recall a past event/era. For a few moments there, he had the footballing equivalent of the 'thousand-yard stare'.

I never want to see my Dad in such pain again. These fückers simply cannot win the league.
 
Was just going through the stats. Suarez has scored 27 goals and 22 assists in 25 games this season. Sturridge has 20 goals and 8 assists. :eek:

No wonder Liverpool is riding high.
 
Liverpool clearly deserve to win the league this year on quality of play. But I wouldn't want them to actually win it even if my life depended on it.
 
I wonder if they do win it will be like United last year. You know, endless talk of us not really winning it (with a month of the season left) but other teams gifting it to us (along with our 84 points after 34 games).

Actually, I don't wonder that at all.
 
They will beat Chelsea and city at anfield

It's their title to chuck away

They are going to win it

What a shit season

Momentum is huge at this stage of the season, they are winning games at a canter and can outscore anyone. They are the form side peaking at the right time but I still hold out hope that Chelsea can go there and avoid defeat which would be huge for them. If City have Aguero back for their visit then City are capable of going toe-to-toe in the goalscoring stakes. Today will be pointless because Spurs are like us, they beat the mid table dross but are miles behind when they play a proper side. I honestly think it'll be 4-0 at HT again today, Spurs are playing a criminal high line in every game and players like Dawson and Kaboul will be destroyed by SAS movement.
 
The Scouse aren't even top of the table yet and already I find the hysteria of their fans unbearable.

How on God's green earth did older United fans cope in the '70s and '80s at all? I've just asked my Dad and I think I've just bollocksed up his day. I've never seen him so empty whilst trying to recall a past event/era. For a few moments there, he had the footballing equivalent of the 'thousand-yard stare'.

I never want to see my Dad in such pain again. These fückers simply cannot win the league.

I guess it is different for the new generation and the old generation. If you have experienced the history between Liverpool and United it must be something different to see them winning it than when you haven't. Must also be more infuriating when you are living in the Uk and working with Liverpool supporters or having some as friends or people you know. When you are insolated from that rivalry it all feels a bit more bearable.

However in the end of the day its only football and you should be able to distance yourself from it. I'd rather have more teams like Liverpool and the way in which they try to compete than like City, the sport would be alot better because of it. Their fans are unbearable, but I guess they can say the same thing about us when we were winning it for all these years. It goes both ways, we've had 20 years of dominance and gloating, we'll have to take the diffuclt times aswell, nice things don't last. Luckily the bad things don't last either.
 
I think they will lose both games against City and Chelsea. They have lost every game against other top four teams this season apart from the freak 5-1 win against Arsenal.

Lol considering the we have played Chelsea and City once each and got beaten narrowly in both games, as well as the fact we are the other team in the top 4 means your argument doesn't really hold any water.
 
I guess it is different for the new generation and the old generation. If you have experienced the history between Liverpool and United it must be something different to see them winning it than when you haven't. Must also be more infuriating when you are living in the Uk and working with Liverpool supporters or having some as friends or people you know. When you are insolated from that rivalry it all feels a bit more bearable.

However in the end of the day its only football and you should be able to distance yourself from it. I'd rather have more teams like Liverpool and the way in which they try to compete than like City, the sport would be alot better because of it. Their fans are unbearable, but I guess they can say the same thing about us when we were winning it for all these years. It goes both ways, we've had 20 years of dominance and gloating, we'll have to take the diffuclt times aswell, nice things don't last. Luckily the bad things don't last either.

Good post.
 
You're so lucky you can see into the future, what will today's result be so I can throw a few quid on it before the match starts?

Nothing to do with the predicting the future. Just common sense. Remember the last time you had a good run in at the end of a season? Do you also remember how it ended for you? Yes without a title. Nothing suggests it will be different this time apart from your hope as a fan. Which is okay but still deluded.
 
Nothing to do with the predicting the future. Just common sense. Remember the last time you had a good run in at the end of a season? Do you also remember how it ended for you? Yes without a title. Nothing suggests it will be different this time apart from your hope as a fan. Which is okay but still deluded.

In that season we were relying on teams to drop points. This season, if we win the rest of our games we win the league.