Alexander Buttner | 2013/14 Performances

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Hes done well today and the game against West Ham and it looked like in both games he was told to just focus on defending and let the other players do the attacking. His problems in general are when he gets caught up the pitch or someone gets in behind him he panics and dives in to try and make up for his initial mistake which just makes things worse and leads to him either getting skint or giving away a free. Hes done well lately as a more old fashioned defensive minded full back fair play to him.
 
I've been very critical of him but he was really good tonight.
 
Best United game tonight. Had to deal with genuine quality and did.
 
I didn't see much of the first half but thought he did well. Possession stats don't mean much when we were playing on the counter and using long balls up to Welbeck.
 
Started off shaky but done the fans and himself proud by the time he came off. Did his defensive duties well in the end, something Evra often lets us down in.
 
Had a good game today, did his job well as others said although he looked nervous on the ball but then again it wasn't easy for him as he was under pressure every time he got it.
 
Thought he did a very good job tonight, did exactly what he needed to do. Ok he wasnt as dynamic as Evra is when going forward and his passing wasnt ideal but we were backs to the wall tonight and needed to defend deep and counter. I dont think hes going to be a long term solution but it shows that he can be trusted to put a good shift in for the team and be responsible defensively and at the end of the day that would be far better than what Evra has been producing defensively all year.
 
Thought he was unexpectedly great. Did anyone notice that couple of minutes where he got a great sliding tackle in at the edge of the pitch and somehow won the throw, then moments later got in a great sliding tackle on our byline and somehow won a goal kick :lol: don't know how he did it but great effort
 
He clearly shat himself every time he got the ball in the first half but was very measured, and for once not very rash defensively. Showed there is a good player in there if he can sort the mental side of his game.
 
To be fair, I was expecting Robben and Rafinha to rip him a new one today so I'm pleasantly surprised, even though he just tried to hoof it out instead of passing it to someone. Evra should still come in next game though.

I was expecting the same because it was one of our biggest weaknesses, but then you have to remember that Bayern are going to play how they want to play and a Guardiola team is going to focus through the middle.

Besides we had fill in fullbacks on both sides and a Rio who looked completely past it all season until tonight. So I'm sure their scouting report read "Attack them from anywhere, none of them are in form or solid first choices" rather than just focusing on Buttner, like we've seen some teams try to do vs. Rafael in the past
 
Think he deserves a lot of credit, thought he was our most focused and positive player against villa too, given he was on a yellow from early (for a mad challenge).
 
He clearly shat himself every time he got the ball in the first half but was very measured, and for once not very rash defensively. Showed there is a good player in there if he can sort the mental side of his game.

Yeah, the nerves very obvious in first 15 mins but very solid defensively. I was annoyed he wasn't closing down quicker, getting out to the ball sharper but it looks like it was a conscious decision to defend the box. He did very well.
 
I'm normally quite critical of Büttner but he did well tonight. I feel his better moments were all defensive actions (clearances etc) rather than moments of real quality, but he's a defender first and I'd rather see him putting his body on the line to prevent the opposition from scoring rather than trying silly stepovers in our own half.
 
So? Only 12 passes to make. How's that his fault? How many of these 12 times was he given the ball with the single purpose of clearing it? That's how the first half was played. Not like Giggs was hugging the line to help him out. Always the easiest pass to make for a full back. That option wasn't available for Büttner which left hoofing it or going back the way it came.

Still baffled by these Opta stats compared to the CL stats. They are so vastly different. Can't understand how that's possible with simple counting. Opta has Vidic with 17 passes at 94%. CL has him at 35 passes with 77%.

How about not smashing the ball up the field back to Bayern then he can be involved in a passing move or two? He just needs to find a CM and make a run.
 
Yeah, the nerves very obvious in first 15 mins but very solid defensively. I was annoyed he wasn't closing down quicker, getting out to the ball sharper but it looks like it was a conscious decision to defend the box. He did very well.

We basically defended like Fulham did at OT, let them have space on the flanks and have the full backs narrow to close space in the channels for midfield runners to get into.
 
We basically defended like Fulham did at OT, let them have space on the flanks and have the full backs narrow to close space in the channels for midfield runners to get into.

It was tactically astute. There. I've said it.
 
The biggest gripe I have with him is that he plays himself into trouble. He'll be passed the ball and expected to clear it but instead he keeps turning with it and then gets closed down.
 
Defended well today. No nonsense defending. People saying he was awful....jaysus get a grip. Himself and vidic communicated very well, especially as buttner had virtually no cover from midfield at times in the first half.

Offered nothing going forward. But judging by his past displays, he was under orders to hold his position.
 
Not a United quality player but comes in and does a job when needed.

A full back is a real priority for next season.
 
Seemed to be a bit nervous for the first 10/15 minutes, but after he settled down he was very good.

If he's not injured, he deserves to start out in Munich.
 
He didn't once do that thing where he rolls his foot needlessly over the ball. In fact, I don't think he went forward once in the match. Looked much better for it too. What ever happened to full backs who actually concentrated firstly on defending. He was under the microscope big time and he impressed.
 
Was great yesterday night. Looked after Robben with very little problems at all. Based on that performance, I'd start him in the 2nd leg.
 
How about not smashing the ball up the field back to Bayern then he can be involved in a passing move or two? He just needs to find a CM and make a run.
Did you watch the game at all? He touched the ball as many times stopping the opposition as he did in possession himself. There were 4 or 5 times in the first half where United actually made any progress moving the ball forward. He's the only one that was bad at it? No. Everyone where. He didn't make any mistakes defensively. That's all that matters.

Instead of pointing solely to stats, how about you make 2 or 3 examples of his passing where he did poorly. I can't really remember anything from him but I can name you an instance from every other player in the team bar DDG or Vidic.
 
He didn't once do that thing where he rolls his foot needlessly over the ball. In fact, I don't think he went forward once in the match. Looked much better for it too. What ever happened to full backs who actually concentrated firstly on defending. He was under the microscope big time and he impressed.
Why do you say it's needless? Doing it a lot of times in a row and yes, it becomes needless. Tricks like that aren't needless. Threatening to move the ball when your teammates make runs around you is likely to make the defender lose notice momentarily, either of him or another player. It all has purpose.

Just compare it to Valencia on the other side doing nothing. Which one do you think is more effective?
 
One solid game and he's better than Evra? Or could it be that he wasn't massacred. He never really moved forward with the ball at all. Not taking anything fom his performance, but it seems his basic instructions were to stay back and maintain form. He contributed nothing in attack because if he did venture forward he would've been caught out because his positional sense is terrible.

Robben didn't really test him either because he played narrow and cut in a lot, leaving Rafina the space to bomb down the right. Buttner was a defend and smash the ball up player today...it was effective, but we'll still need to invest in a proper fullback like Shaw
 
Buttner was clearly told not to venture forward. His only job was punting the ball as far as he can. And he must have hit Robben's head 3-4 times. His defensive game improved tenfold though. Was expecting a complete massacre from Robben but he did very well. Did not see him stick his foot out even a single time, specially inside the box. Kept his composure as the game went on. Credit where its due.

Evra still has to start the second leg for me. If Moyes can make him stay back and make him less adventurous for one game then that's LB sorted.
 
He showed focus and some adaptability. There's no doubt that he was a big reason the tie's still alive.

I'd like to see him get some of the last league matches to show if this uptick of his has legs to it. Shaping up to be a solid, committed squad player with upside yet.

I'm seeing a lot about him being nervous. I thought he looked [rightfully] nervous at times during the match. However, he looked like he had it well-channeled when he came out on the field--more so than some of the senior players. That's impressive for having so few matches before this.
 
He will be a good back up but not a long term solution for the leftback position. Having said that, he did well against Robben.
 
One solid game and he's better than Evra? Or could it be that he wasn't massacred. He never really moved forward with the ball at all. Not taking anything fom his performance, but it seems his basic instructions were to stay back and maintain form. He contributed nothing in attack because if he did venture forward he would've been caught out because his positional sense is terrible.

Robben didn't really test him either because he played narrow and cut in a lot, leaving Rafina the space to bomb down the right. Buttner was a defend and smash the ball up player today...it was effective, but we'll still need to invest in a proper fullback like Shaw

Did anyone notice that as the second half wore on, the wingers on each side started taking the throw ins regularly with the fullbacks staying back. Normally it's the fullbacks who come forward for a throw in, but we decided to keep our back four in a very steady shape. Not a bad ploy and worked well.
 
Did anyone notice that as the second half wore on, the wingers on each side started taking the throw ins regularly with the fullbacks staying back. Normally it's the fullbacks who come forward for a throw in, but we decided to keep our back four in a very steady shape. Not a bad ploy and worked well.

It worked well indeed. We did a double marking job on Robben too. He still got away with a few menacing attempts. We played very well defensively. Only slip up was lazy boy Fellaini
 
Two solid games. Evra has been horrible at his defending all season long. I would much rather see Buttner next match. He clearly deserve it.

Didn't know he had it in him tbh.
 
Two solid games. Evra has been horrible at his defending all season long. I would much rather see Buttner next match. He clearly deserve it.

Didn't know he had it in him tbh.
 
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