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If the reports are true that we want LVG to take on some of the class of 92 instead of giving him total control over the coaching appointments like we did Moyes.

Anyone else think this would signal the club moving away from the all powerful manager model we had under SAF to a more first team coach/director of football set up?
 
difficult to say - its just opinions. Ddg was probably our best player this season and he s happy with woods - why change a winning formula?.
If it's one of van Gaal's reqeusts I'd take it. De Gea's come on a good deal, swapping coaches wouldn't be too detrimental, would it?
 
Best evidence yet.

Van Gaal is edging closer to the United job, with Dutch Football Federation (KNVB) spokesman Kees Jansma last night confirming talks are ongoingbetween Old Trafford officials and the former Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich boss.

Jansma said: "I spoke to Louis on Friday. He told me nothing is definite yet. However, there is something going on, but he exptects that not untill somewhere this week he can tell more."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-news-van-gaal-3471852



Also, if VDS says Van Gaal is better than Fergie, I will put my hands up and accept him as our new manager.
 
difficult to say - its just opinions. Ddg was probably our best player this season and he s happy with woods - why change a winning formula?.

In order to make it even better?

Look, I've no issues with keeping Woods, but those coaching roles are quite often a case of trust. Van Gaal has people he's known for a long time, believes in them, etc. It's unfortunate for Woods, but it shouldn't be an issue.
 
If it's one of van Gaal's reqeusts I'd take it. De Gea's come on a good deal, swapping coaches wouldn't be too detrimental, would it?
if he s happy i don't mind but apparently he s may not like having 3 different coaches in 3 seasons. Anyway i hope sense prevails (which is not always the case...)
 
I'm actually getting sick with worry. :nervous:

Confirm the fu*king deal United FFS. Don't overplay your hand Woodward, you stupid cnut.
 
There's too much talk now for this to just rumours. LVG is very likely a done deal.
 
difficult to say - its just opinions. Ddg was probably our best player this season and he s happy with woods - why change a winning formula?.

If the goalkeeper is just a goalkeeper, then I would have agreed. But on Van Gaal's system he is more than that, he's basically an extra player when you have the ball.

De Gea was also very happy with Steele too and spoke highly for him. Steele learned Spanish to help De Gea on the beginning. He'll be happy with a new coach too, especially if he teaches him new skills.
 
if he s happy i don't mind but apparently he s may not like having 3 different coaches in 3 seasons. Anyway i hope sense prevails (which is not always the case...)

Or, you could say 3 in 4.

Steele - 2 seasons.
Woods - 1.
Van Gaal's man - ?
 
Does anyone feel that VDS would be perfect if he had a Role here?

He is dutch, a united legand and is a goalkeeping coach.

Perfect.

But, Chris Woods had done a great job with De Gea. Huge improvement this seaon in De gea in all round play
 
In order to make it even better?

Look, I've no issues with keeping Woods, but those coaching roles are quite often a case of trust. Van Gaal has people he's known for a long time, believes in them, etc. It's unfortunate for Woods, but it shouldn't be an issue.
Indeed. It's a bit shit that he'll lose his job cause he performed very well on that, but changes happen.
 
Best evidence yet.

Van Gaal is edging closer to the United job, with Dutch Football Federation (KNVB) spokesman Kees Jansma last night confirming talks are ongoingbetween Old Trafford officials and the former Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich boss.

Jansma said: "I spoke to Louis on Friday. He told me nothing is definite yet. However, there is something going on, but he exptects that not untill somewhere this week he can tell more."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-news-van-gaal-3471852



Also, if VDS says Van Gaal is better than Fergie, I will put my hands up and accept him as our new manager.
vds is closer to lvg than he ever wad to fergie, so he may be a little biased. (national team, Ajax, same nationality - pls note that its not only Brits that may be obsessed with such aspects)
 
If it happens soon, are they likely to announce it before 6th May?

Yes, Van Gaal needs to be announced before may 7th, because that is when he returns to work for the national team (think that is what I read).
 
I reckon it'll be confirmed by end of this week and he'll be at our last 2 home matches to see us and specifically, RVP, play.
 
Indeed. It's a bit shit that he'll lose his job cause he performed very well on that, but changes happen.

He's still got his USA job and I'd imagine another club would have him too.
 
I have given up on Nev. He is living in a fairy land in many of his points.

I only watch his tactical views.

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I agree 100%, anything to do outside formation in a game, particuarly surrounding United is completely over the top.
 
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Why are people getting so worked up with Gary's opinions? He's hardly going to influence the board.
 
G.Nev can go feck himself !
usual stuff on the caf : have different perspective than mine = he can go feck himself.
by any chance do you pretend that everyone agrees with your point of view? if it was so, why bother discussing an issue?
 
usual stuff on the caf : have different perspective than mine = he can go feck himself.
by any chance do you pretend that everyone agrees with your point of view? if it was so, why bother discussing an issue?
To be fair to him, Gary is more biased for British than Mad Winger for Kagawa.
 
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Why are people getting so worked up with Gary's opinions? He's hardly going to influence the board.
The funny thing is, Man Utd fans like Carra more than Nev.

Nev wins tactical disections hands down. You can't understand Carra's scouse voice, makes your ear's bleed.
 
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If the reports are true that we want LVG to take on some of the class of 92 instead of giving him total control over the coaching appointments like we did Moyes.

Anyone else think this would signal the club moving away from the all powerful manager model we had under SAF to a more first team coach/director of football set up?

Possibly and I'd object both in terms of principle and also on the fact that if true it'd be something we've suddenly decided is club policy no earlier than Tuesday, which is madness.
 
Giggs needs to be in the staff or else it is no deal for me.

Some of you seem to have no problem cutting ties with the past(or any connection to it), but I do.

Ryan Giggs must remain.
 
He seems like he's totally unwilling to give any foreign manager a chance.
Obviously his views are stupid, I'm very surprised they're not considered a little bit more contentious... Encouraging the exclusion of any 'foreigners' from getting the job I find quite disgraceful really.
 
Giggs needs to be in the staff or else it is no deal for me.

Some of you seem to have no problem cutting ties with the past(or any connection to it), but I do.

Ryan Giggs must remain.

Why 'must' he remain?

I'm all for Giggs having a role in the coaching staff, but if van Gaal wants to bring in his own successful coaches, then who are we to question that? Sentimentality won't get us anywhere.
 
usual stuff on the caf : have different perspective than mine = he can go feck himself.
by any chance do you pretend that everyone agrees with your point of view? if it was so, why bother discussing an issue?

I'am all about sensible discussions, but I have had it with G.Nev. The entire Moyes saga, he himself analysing his many flaws in so many failed matches, yet when the guy is firred he still has the nerve to come out and say the moyes sacking is a very sad affair for Manchester United and that we lost our dignity in it all. Then the guy goes on the Giggs bandwagon and fuelling the hype saying we need a british manager.

Everybody is allowed his opnion, my opnion is that G.Nev can go feck himself with his british coach and his sentimental fairyland ideas. I have nothing but respect for these guys (Neville, Giggs, SAF, Charlton) as players or coaches but when they start putting pressure on the club to hire a british manager to preserve the tradition of the club for the sake of it, after having this horrendous season with Moyes, I'am seeing as dangerous people that are holding us back and dragging us down if we keep listening to their opnions that are soley based on club sentiment and irrational romantic fantasies. It is fecking danagerous is what it is.
 
He is a bit deluded but he's hardly BNP. He just said he'd prefer to see a British manager.
 
Absoloutly wonderful article from Andy Mitten on Van Gaal. Must reed.

What type of manager is Louis van Gaal?
Posted by Andy Mitten

Louis van Gaal sat his Barcelona players down in the Camp Nou dressing room before what would prove to be the most heated clasico in memory.

"The team who will win will be the team who will control their emotions," he said.

It was Oct. 21, 2000, and emotions were running high in Catalonia following the transfer of Barcelona's best player, Luis Figo, to Real Madrid.

"Van Gaal was right," recalls Luis Enrique, another Barca star. "How many times have we seen teams lose their heads and someone get sent off?

"I like the clasicos, the coach to the stadium. Even the warm-up was different ... because you didn’t need one. You were already up for it. I could have started any clasicos without a stretch."

This particular occasion was most memorable for the moment a pig's head landed near Figo as he prepared to take a Madrid corner.

"But at that pig’s head game," says Enrique, "I saw the Barca fans angrier than I’ve ever seen before. They’re usually reserved. They go to Camp Nou to see a spectacle. The players said before: ‘We’re going to win this game. We have to win it.' It was strange that they only threw the pig’s head; I thought they might throw the whole pig."

Barcelona duly won, yet while some had sympathy for Figo and his treatment, Barca’s coach didn't.

“Figo provoked the situation,” said van Gaal. “He walked over to the corner slowly, picked up a bottle slowly, went back to the corner -- and all this consciously and deliberately, without the referee doing anything to stop it.”

Sentiment or sympathy is not something that the Dutchman specialises in.

As well as van Gaal, Enrique, now manager at Celta Vigo, played under Vicente del Bosque, Bobby Robson, Jorge Valdano, Leo Beenhakker, Serra Ferrer, Camacho and Javier Clemente.

"The trainer I learned most from about the field of play was van Gaal, even though he’s the one I’ve had the most confrontations with," says Enrique.

"Well, disagreements," he adds with a smile. "He’s got an obsession with work ethic, the way he plans. Maybe I preferred a lighter style to his.

"You learn something from everyone, even the bad coaches. Because they tell you something, and you think: ‘I’ll never do that in the future.’”

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AllsportLouis van Gaal has been out of club management since leaving Bayern Munich in 2011.
Van Gaal is being lined up to be the next manager of Manchester United. If Ryan Giggs has more days like Saturday in the next three weeks, the pressure from fans for him to be appointed full time will grow. United fans would love to see Giggs appointed, just maybe not now while he lacks experience.

Van Gaal is the favourite, and the Dutchman is adaptable too. When he took over from Robson at Barca in 1997, on a mission to make the club play like his Ajax team that had won the European Cup two years earlier, he inherited an assistant named Jose Mourinho.

Robson could have been angered at his departure, but he encouraged Mourinho to stay on with his replacement and even recommended the Portuguese.

The former Ajax boss discovered “an arrogant young man who didn’t respect authority that much, but I did like that of him. He was not submissive; he used to contradict me when I was in the wrong. Finally, I wanted to hear what he had to say and ended up listening to him more than any of the assistants.”

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Van Gaal promoted Mourinho and trusted him to scout big-game opponents. He also placed him in the stands rather than on the bench for a different perspective. Mourinho would report to him at the start of half-time, and van Gaal would relay this to the team. The manager saw talent and trusted his assistant. He was right, but the two would argue.

"Mourinho wanted to know everything that was going on, not just with the coaching," former Barca defender Michael Reiziger told me. "The players liked that. I’m not sure van Gaal always did, as they both wanted to speak the most. So he wasn’t a normal assistant. It was clear that he wanted ‘something else.'"

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VI Images/Getty ImagesJose Mourinho and van Gaal during their time together at Barcelona.
Mourinho learned. “With Van Gaal,” he said, “the practice sessions were set out already. I would know everything beforehand that we were going to do in training. From the aims, to the exact time each exercise was going to take place. Nothing was left to chance, everything was programmed to fine detail.”

But he tired of working under the Dutchman. Van Gaal’s downfall was that he failed to lift the Champions League in two spells at Barcelona.

Fans had hoped to do it in 1999, the club’s centenary year, in the final at Camp Nou, but a team of red-shirted heroes earning their living in the northwest of England had other ideas.

Several of those players are now in charge at Manchester United, at least until the end of the season. Should van Gaal come in, he may choose to keep them in his team. Or he may not. And that's the biggest question hanging over Manchester United.

Van Gaal delivered the league title in each of his first two seasons at Barcelona, but unfavourable comparisons with the football played by Johan Cruyff’s “Dream Team” didn’t help his case.

Nor did his confrontational public demeanour in front of journalists, or the fact that he virtually transplanted the Dutch national side (of which he is the current manager) to Catalonia.

It’s important to Barca fans that Catalans represent their club. They welcome foreigners, but the balance that Cruyff had managed was not maintained by van Gaal. Critics questioned the “Hollandisation” of the club and debated the merits of why so many of Europe’s great underachievers were being transplanted to Catalonia.

When he was brought back for a second spell at Barcelona in 2002, the decision was derided, even though Van Gaal promised that he had changed.

For all of a week, he did seem relaxed, shaking hands and kissing babies in public, only to return to his usual confrontational self when his team faltered immediately in the league.

Salvation could have come with the re-signing of Ronaldo, offered to the club by Internazionale, but van Gaal declined. The Brazilian went to Real Madrid and started scoring freely. Van Gaal lasted six months.

Yet this is a man who gave a debut to Xavi in a Champions League game at Old Trafford.

"It was so intense," Xavi says. "Imagine what it was like for me? I was 18 and had been playing for Barca B. I’d not even played for the first team. I was still getting the metro to training, and there are 50,000 crazy Englishmen screaming in my ear.”

Xavi has since gone on to make more appearances for Barça than any player in the club’s history. Like Giggs at United, he has become a decorated club legend admired by the football world.

But could Giggs work with van Gaal? Would he want to? And would van Gaal want to work with the “Class of '92”?

There are always questions to be answered at Manchester United, but none more so than in this troubled season.
 
There's too much talk now for this to just rumours. LVG is very likely a done deal.
I know it's not rumours mate, but there's a chance this can still go tits up if we feck Louis about.
 
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