I think it would just upset the Dutch FA if we had talks with him any later than that. Think they've told him to sort it before then and he in turn has told us as such.
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Ideally we would get this sorted out soon so he would have some time to get some transfers done.
It's surprising how many people have come out in support of Van Gaal to United, you don't usually see so many people come out in public and say what a great move it would be for both parties. 1 or 2 yes, but it seems like every day there's somebody new coming out saying how great Van Gaal would be with United. Hope they're all right!
What's the longest period of time people can see Van Gaal staying with us if/when he gets the job? I keep seeing people saying he's a short term option of maybe 2 or 3 years but if he is successful why shouldn't he be here for 5-10 years depending on his health? He seems to a football fanatic and certainly isn't lacking in passion despite his age. Is it that people think he will have a falling out here and be sacked or that he will want to leave before long?
It's probably going to be his last job (if he gets it), how long he stays here depends on a couple of things.
1. How well we fit, I can see United fans taking to him, but big talk has to be backed up. Hearing that the new manager will be given control of transfers is a concern, Van Gaal is tied up at the World Cup and I don't really know if he is any good at buying his own players. But if that can be ironed out and he hits it off here he could be a here a while and with it being his last job he might try and get the most out of it.
2. How long Giggs is willing to wait, once again really dependent on Van Gaal's performance. Can't imagine Giggs will stick around for more than a couple of years (and that might be optimistic) if he isn't accommodated high up in Van Gaal's staff. If things are going bad and Giggs makes a push he will definitely get the job.
Judging by his wiki he doesn't seem to stick around very long, with Ajax as his longest spell at a club (1991-1997).
1. How well we fit, I can see United fans taking to him, but big talk has to be backed up. Hearing that the new manager will be given control of transfers is a concern, Van Gaal is tied up at the World Cup and I don't really know if he is any good at buying his own players. But if that can be ironed out and he hits it off here he could be a here a while and with it being his last job he might try and get the most out of it.
2. How long Giggs is willing to wait, once again really dependent on Van Gaal's performance. Can't imagine Giggs will stick around for more than a couple of years (and that might be optimistic) if he isn't accommodated high up in Van Gaal's staff. If things are going bad and Giggs makes a push he will definitely get the job.
Judging by his wiki he doesn't seem to stick around very long, with Ajax as his longest spell at a club (1991-1997).
If this is true then it confirms, once again, that Rooney is a selfish bitch. Wants everything guaranteed and served on a platter. Ever heard of competition for places Rooney? If you play to standards you're capable of (and have shown again this season) LVG would be a complete idiot to leave you out of the starting XI.
If he isn't made captain he will definitely raise another tantrum.
Don't forget he captained Arsenal for a couple of years too.
I think LVG will be better for us than Ancelotti anyway. Both are equally good managers with different strengths and weaknesses, but if we want to rebuild our side, then LVG is the better option.
Want this to be sorted now. It's getting as annoying as Moyes leaving.
There has just been a Dutch journalist on Talksport who has said LVG and RVP's wives go on shopping trips together in London and get on really well, however LVG is not a fool and would not pick a fight with Rooney over the captaincy as he would want to keep him onside.
Hopefully Evra stays on and therefore there is no need to appoint either of Rooney or RvP as captains.
If we beat Sunderland this weekend without this deal being concluded the clamour for Giggsy will no doubt increase, I really don't think I can hear anymore about the class of 92 without my sanity shattering.
I still don't really understand how so many people on the Caf can hate Bayern's football this season and want van Gaal as their new manager at the same time. Makes no sense to me.
If van Gaal becomes your new manager, this board will be in constant meltdown
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If van Gaal becomes your new manager, this board will be in constant meltdown
.I don't think LvG can get us playing in that style though as we simply lack the players to play that way. You're right though. If we have another season of lack of penetrative football, a lot of us will lose it!I still don't really understand how so many people on the Caf can hate Bayern's football this season and want van Gaal as their new manager at the same time. Makes no sense to me.
If van Gaal becomes your new manager, this board will be in constant meltdown
Even if he were to stay on another season I doubt he'll still be a certain starter in our 11 because of his defensive liability, especially if we bring in someone like Shaw or Coentrao. So on that basis alone its unlikely he'll be captain.
Did anyone believe that Bayern had the players for it in 2009? I certainly didn't.
Fair enough. I certainly don't know a lot about Bayern or LvG. I'd be surprised if he can seamlessly get us playing 'that' way. Will be interesting to see.
LVG doesn't play the same way as Pep so i don't see the problem.
I agree but LVG and RVP as possible captain plus the coaches etc. he's reported to want, we'd have a Dutch takeover. All we need then is Van Tromp sailing up the Ship Canal (bombarding Liverpool on the way past).
I've no problem with it but I can definitely see problems with the 'class of '92'. A heavy political group they are and LVG is not the international celebrity that Beckham is.
The coaches bit is not a big issue. Managers all around always bring their own group of trusted people when they move. I think LVG also keeps at least one member of the previous staff on board for continuity.
The bit about the captain seems guesswork to me, because I doubt he will talking about the captain issue before even signing the contract.
How do LVG's teams play? I know he likes Total Football, but I was wonder if he likes his team to play it wide with speed, or is a slow build up?
Get in, Wayne. Make them feel the weight of your far new contract.
Can somebody clarify how similar VG's style is to the tiki taka approach that constantly gets slaughtered here? I've seen a few posters say it'll be similar and another few say they're totally different.
So, has there been any change in the rumours since yesterday evening? Have we settled over the class of 92 thing?
I would like to know this. I thought his sides played with more speed but a few Bayern fans on here are saying his style is like Pep, not sure how well that would work here, we don't have the players for it.
I don't believe Giggs would accept a long term deal as manager atm , it could go disastrous and jeopardize his manager career
I understand the club need to give due diligence and get this appointment right but this being in limbo over manager/transfers is doing my head in
Its been one week mate. Think you're being rather naive in thinking it should be done already.
We are doing it right this time hopefully. Having actual interviews for candidates would be a good start.
That's a good point. I think Giggs would be glad to have a couple of seasons under LvG as well. That would make the most sense.
Im not naieve..I just said I know they have to take their time, its just the waiting that sucks
Who are the Dutch coaches that the media are claiming Van Gaal wants to bring in with him. Other Than Kluivert that is.
For this reason alone I would take LvG
Player power? The managerial decision will prove how strong player power is at the club.
They never played for Moyes, for varying reasons so we are lead to believe.
Giggs later more experience required at present me thinks, we may find out to our benefit or detriment.
After such a fantastic career it would be so sad to see Giggs try and fail
Rumour has it that we want to spend our war chest before the World Cup?. If so how can LVG give total commitment to bringing in new players with Holland being his first objective?
Kluivert as assistant, Frans Hoek as GK coach, Van Dijk as psychologist and Max Reckers as a video analyst.
It looked to me very different to Pep/Del Bosque style. Both are very concenrated on keeping the ball, but Van Gaal attacks more directly and also gives more important to width. I also think that the defense is different with Van Gaal's CB playing far deeper than Spanish tiki taka teams.
I think that Bielsa's Atletico (likely you remember those two games on Europa League) is the closest thing to Van Gaal's system.
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