It's amazing what a week in football does. Folk on here would have jizzed had Guardiola decided to come here.
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It's amazing what a week in football does. Folk on here would have jizzed had Guardiola decided to come here.
I still would.
One of my favorite sides all time.3-3-1-3
Fingers crossed he can bring us some of that.
What? This is not a slight on Josep in the slightest, mate. I would happily take either, I'm just pointing out what I felt was a difference between the two. There are obviously more, but many seem to think van Gaal = Pep's Tiki-Taka.
But I bet it would be a different story if Pep was set to be our next manager.
My mistake, mate. Misunderstood. Apologies.
Still, fingers-crossed the football will be better than we've had this season.
Well it can't be any worse. I am pretty positive that we will be much better next season.
I do agree how absurd it is for people to stick their nose up at any inkling of a Guardiola rumour though. The mans record speaks for itself. He has won 3 trophies this year and I think got Bayern their second(?) highest points total and did it in almost record time. Add to that they were knocked out in the semi-finals, how is that ever a poor season? I don't know.
As JTW95 states, it really can't get any worse, can it?
The biggest positive is that we'll actually have a clear philosophy/tactic/gameplan under LvG. It was all too ambiguous or poorly executed under Moyes.Like always with LVG it will be down to every single staff and player getting behind him in his work no matter how crazy his decisions at time may be. If people start turning on him we will see the end of his days with us.
I believe United is the optimal club for him too right now. Moyes and SAF were both very strict so the players are used to it and he is one of the best tacticians in football and he will be compared with Moyes. Also the increased power and responsibility he will have here over a club like Bayern should be ideal for him.
I love how he's so passionate even when coaching kids.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...-united-ryan-giggs-squad-hull-city?CMP=twt_gu
Louis van Gaal is set to offer Ryan Giggs a senior position on his coaching staff when the Dutchman becomes the new permanent Manchester United manager.
Louis van Gaal is set to offer Ryan Giggs a senior position on his coaching staff when the Dutchman becomes the new permanent Manchester United manager.
The Mirror reporting that LVG has blocked Nani's move to Juventus.
Shizz.
Shizz.
I do wonder why we're playing such a dangerous game. Loads of jobs will come up now for which he'll be in mind for. Why risk dicking him around waiting for the results of the final four games, waiting for Ancelotti, waiting to see how the Guardiola situation develops at Bayern - I'm glad he wont but if he did decide to tell us to piss off who would blame him?
Hope that's true!
Ogden at the Telegraph saying Van Gaal should be announced as new manager in next 24 hrs.
Ogden
I can't see anything from Ogden
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...role-for-Ryan-Giggs-at-Manchester-United.html
Hull City manager Steve Bruce urges Louis van Gaal to find a role for Ryan Giggs at Manchester United
Ahead of United's last home game of the season, visiting manager Bruce believes Giggs must stay at Old Trafford
Warning: Steve Bruce has urged Louis van Gaal, manager-in-waiting at Old Trafford, to find a role for Ryan Giggs at Old Trafford Photo: ACTION IMAGES
By Mark Ogden, Northern Football Correspondent
11:00PM BST 05 May 2014
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Steve Bruce has urged Louis van Gaal to find a role for Ryan Giggs atManchester United after warning the Dutchman that he faces a daunting rebuilding job at Old Trafford.
Van Gaal, the Holland coach, is expected to be secured as United’s new manager within the next 24 hours after he emerged as the favoured candidate to replace the sacked David Moyes.
However, with Giggs, the interim manager, still uncertain about his future at the club, Van Gaal’s first decision is likely to centre around how to accommodate the 40-year-old in his plans at Old Trafford.
Van Gaal is understood to have decided not to include Patrick Kluivert, the Holland assistant, in his backroom team and, with fellow Dutch coach Danny Blind choosing to remain with the national team, it would appear to have paved the way for Giggs to be offered a senior role in the coaching department.
Bruce, the former United captain who takes his Hull City team to United on Tuesday night, insists that Giggs can play a crucial part in helping Van Gaal to succeed as manager at Old Trafford.
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“There’s always going to be a place for Ryan at United because he has been a great there,” Bruce said.
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“But it’s a difficult one to call because if it is Van Gaal, he will have his own opinions on it. But I’m sure they will find a space for Ryan somewhere.
“He’ll do something and I don’t think he’ll leave. He will be treated properly, I’m convinced of that, and he will have some role to play.
“Ryan may still have a role as a player. If Ryan feels up to it, why wouldn’t you keep him on?
“I saw him play a few weeks ago, and he still looks a very good player to me.
"If he was to be available on a free this summer, I’d take him. He can come and see out his days at the KC in the Europa League!”
Having witnessed Giggs’s emergence as a raw talent at United in the early-1990s, Bruce admits that he always sensed the Welshman was destined for stardom.
He believes that, when Giggs eventually gets a chance of management on a full-time basis, he can go on to replicate his playing success.
“He is the only one I’ve seen who, when we all saw him, we all said straight away: ‘This kid is a superstar,’ ” Bruce said. “It was unbelievable watching him at 16.
“Sometimes you use ‘great’ too often, but he’s been one of United’s greats and there will never be another one like him. Thirteen league titles? Fantastic.
“Doing as well as a manager as he has done as a player is going to be difficult because the success he’s had is quite remarkable.
"But I think the way he handled his first press conference proved to me that he can be as good as he wants to be.
“If he wants to do it, make no mistake, he’ll be a success. We’ve seen [Pep] Guardiola, [Jürgen] Klinsmann and [Kenny] Dalglish do it. Ryan is driven that way. He’s a tough so and so.”
The Hull manager added: “I spoke to Ryan 10 days ago. I wished him good luck and welcomed him to the crazy side of the game.
“If he gets the job or not, you have to remember that Ryan has been at United all his life and he has never been fazed by anything.”
United’s defeat at home against Sunderland at the weekend – their seventh Old Trafford defeat in the league this season – highlighted the problems facing Van Gaal when he takes charge at the club.
The former Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich coach is likely to see the long-serving Patrice Evra and Rio Ferdinand following Nemanja Vidic out of the exit door this summer, leaving the new manager with the challenge of building a new back-four ahead of his first campaign at the helm.
Bruce, who captained United to their first two Premier League titles underSir Alex Ferguson, believes that the defensive work required at Old Trafford will hand Van Gaal an instant problem.
“It is a hard job because time catches up with everybody and that is there to see with the players in United’s back four,” Bruce said.
“Patrice Evra, Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic have been United’s back four for almost 10 years and how do you replace them?
“No matter how many millions you have, it is not going to be easy to find players to come in and replace guys like that. In Vidic and Ferdinand alone, you have two centre-halves with years of experience that you just cannot find easily.
“Van Gaal has a fantastic record in management, though, and when he gets it, he will be taking charge of a fantastic club.
“I had 10 years there and even now, 15 years after I left, I still get letters from people asking about my time there.
"It is a global club and a really big job and whoever comes in is going to have to live up to the standards set by the former boss [Ferguson].”
No Kluivert or Blind, get Round back on the phone.
Nice!
Tis at the top of this one - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...role-for-Ryan-Giggs-at-Manchester-United.html
Looks like Kluivert escapes our grasp once again too.
EDIT - Been well and truly scooped on that one.
Sweet.
Giggs must be no.2 then.
...unless Van Gaal has someone else up his sleeve.
I wanted Kluivert as an assistant but oh well. Giggsy it is then.
Brings De Boer out of his carry on bag in Manchester, Spurs tears are endless.
I dunno about the Kluivert thing, it seems very convenient for the Giggs aspect of the story doesnt it?
Spurs Meltdown.
They got Robbed by Chelsea for Willian, Van Gaal from us and De Boer from us too.
I love how he's so passionate even when coaching kids.
Paddy Docherty v Van Gaal immense.
Damn. I would've preferred him to bring along as many as he wanted. Not sure on Giggs getting a senior role is a good idea.
I don't care who it is as long as it's the manager's choice
Some vintage quotes by Van Gaal
"I have achieved more with Ajax in six years than Barcelona has in one hundred years." - In 1997 after becoming coach of Barcelona
"Louis van Gaal has nothing more to learn" - Said about himself in 2001
"Guardiola follows the Van Gaal Philosophy. So I’m not surprised Bayern have hired Guardiola. Bayern always hire the best managers" - Van Gaal 2013
"If you want to, go ahead." - After a reporter asked Van Gaal whether he wanted to congratulate his former friend Ronald Koeman with winning the Eredivisie with PSV
He is the Zlatan of the manageril world, they're the only ones that talk in 3rd person.
"I have achieved more with Ajax in six years than Barcelona has in one hundred years." - In 1997 after becoming coach of Barcelona
"Louis van Gaal has nothing more to learn" - Said about himself in 2001
"Guardiola follows the Van Gaal Philosophy. So I’m not surprised Bayern have hired Guardiola. Bayern always hire the best managers" - Van Gaal 2013
"If you want to, go ahead." - After a reporter asked Van Gaal whether he wanted to congratulate his former friend Ronald Koeman with winning the Eredivisie with PSV
He is the Zlatan of the manageril world, they're the only ones that talk in 3rd person.
Yup. Van Gaal isn't the type to get anything pushed onto him, so if it's Giggs it's through his own choice. Giggs accordingly isn't going to rock the boat when seen as a major member of the new regime, since any failure would also reflect badly upon him. If Van Gaal's successful as we hope, Giggs is in a good spot for the future.
I think Van Gaal can change Nani into one of the best wingers next season.
It is just written all over it.
It is just written all over it.
I am all for giving Nani a chance in a 433 style system. Better than Valencia when on form by a long way
Really?
What I see written all over it is that this time next year he'll be the subject of plenty "he's only 29 in November, bags of potential. If he plays every game, never gets dropped through poor performances and never got injury he'd be one of the best wingers around" discussion
But whatever, if it's his choice it's his choice. Could be paper talk. It is only the Mirror
Yeah, true. But, you never know. Van Gaal can inject new confidence and Nani is the only 'true' winger we have.
Anyone else finding all the clamor from our former players such as Bruce, Robson etc. urging Van Gaal to offer Giggs a role a bit annoying? I mean we all know the club want Ryan involved. But LVG should be able to make his own decisions and on his terms.
Would they be saying the same if a British manager was on the verge of being appointed? They'd probably be saying that the manager should be given time and complete control.
Maybe I'm being too over analyzing.
Would they be saying the same if a British manager was on the verge of being appointed? They'd probably be saying that the manager should be given time and complete control.
Maybe I'm being too over analyzing.
Yeah I think there's a big chance he would thrive under van Gaal and finally show us what he can do again, hopefully with some consistency if we're lucky. Obviously this seasons been a complete right off but I think Nani has just been unlucky with injuries and simply needs a run of games. Young is the winger van Gaal should get rid of but it does sound like Nani might be off to Juventus. If that means we get Reus though then I guess everyone will be happy. It's crucial van Gaal sorts out the pathetic amount of goals we have scored from midfielders lately with some quality signings. All our them apart from Januzaj and Mata have been embarrassing this season so I'm looking forward to van Gaal shaking things up.
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