True, I've been loving all the Gerrard stuff but I'm holding my breath until the last day of the season before I get too cocky.
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True, I've been loving all the Gerrard stuff but I'm holding my breath until the last day of the season before I get too cocky.
Teams normally do that when they are chasing a game, or if it was coming towards the end of the match. They were simply showboating trying to stuff Palace, they ended up paying for it.
If they do close it out, i would like United to give a 5 year contract to Gayle, and appoint Pullis on the board of directors
I remember when Blackburn won the title, Liverpool fans celebrated more than the Blackburn fans. Payback time.
It wasn't showboating. It was pushing for goal difference.
Didnt see anything wrong with it. Focus on scoring as many goals as possible. Reading anything else into that is just ridiculous.
Agreed. It came across as wanky on the tv, but they needed to push for 2/3 more goals. If it was a two-legged affair, then they'd be expected to push on and on, not settle for a scoreline that simply would not suffice.
By the way, I am delighted they fecked up, esp Gerrard, but I think they were right to go for it.
need to have a look at Johnson. He thinks he's a right winger and was awful defensively. Coleman please.
0-3 was worth a damn sight more than 3-3 to be fair. I think the point (as you said) was that again Liverpool were making a show for the cameras just like The Huddle, Camera kissing and probably some of the tears
He looked a complete egotistical tool. Oh look I have scored. Once I have my moment we can all start again.
Under premier league rules clubs can lose €105m over three years, under UEFA rules this is €45m over 3 years, without knowing Liverpools projected profits this year, it's hard to guess where they will end up, but premier league champions get £100m which would have wiped that 2year loss entirely. In addition, they will have tickets sales and possibly first installment of TV money coming in for 14/15 year. I'd guess that Liverpool will be well within the premier league rules and close to the three year losses for UEFA even with a biggish summer spend. They might have a large sale to Real Madrid to offset too!!
Even if they miss the target, they can clearly show they are going in the right direction, particularly with the stadium plans too which help show a plan for sustainability.
When it went to 1-3 Rogers had Agger and Toure on the bench didn't he ? And yet as it turned 2-3 he brought fecking Moses on !
Instead of trying to arrest the slipping grip on the game they conceded space and with it the lead.
That goal difference ain't worth shit unless those league points are on the board, hence the counting chickens reference you've been bombarded with.
Before the game Rodgers claimed he would have been happy with a 1-0 win but they all lost track of the actual task of one game at time, they'd moved on to Sunday and couldn't recover.
It certainly wasn't showboating at 0-3 but as it turned 1-3 my banter gland became titillated and rightly so. Squeaky bum time is the ultimate definition of the run in and the importance of experience cannot be understated.
I will say that City have the experience of very very nearly throwing it away on the final day, that could work with you or against you.
I still think they'll win it. :S
What? United received just under £61m in 2012-13 as league champions.
http://www.sportingintelligence.com...gue-prize-and-tv-payments-for-2012-13-210501/
So do they :snigger:
Not surprised in the least, they are a vile bunch of cnuts.
Put on this persona of the best fans in the world and when Hillsborough rolls around OH YOU BETTER RESPECT US AND DON'T DISRESPECT US then they just act a bunch of cnuts and abuse people, fight ppl when everyone else was respectful.
feck I hate them, so fecking much.
Yep, first wave of new tv money increase, even better that the scousers slipped up this year, imagine how that would have affected their net spend calculations!!!
Edit. The team in 20th this year get more than United as winners last year!! (£62m), title winners get £99m.
Does anybody have a link to the last 15 minutes of the Palace game? I switched off at 2-0 and saw just the final 2-3 minutes of injury time. And of course loved the Liverpool players' reactions at the end of the game.
Oh man this is beautiful! :'-)
One that is aware of and embraces the history of the club, the passion of the fans and the importance of the club to many that goes beyond dollars and cents. I expect owners to either be able to make good decisions or toput people in place capable ofmaking those decisions for them.
That said, I fully understand that at the end of it all football is no different than any other business and that businesses are in it for profit.Nothing wrong with that at all.
Now that SAF is gone the Glazers are not exactly shining, but it is their investment value on the line. Let's see how this unfolds.
Watching it again, you actually can hear Suarez crying just when Gerrard comes over to console him. Poor twat.
Common sense, really. If they'd coasted home and lost the title by one on goal differential we'd have had a field day with it. Any club would have done it.
You were absolutely mad to even think that you're capable of overturning the goal difference. You'd have had to win both games 7-0 or something silly like that to stand a chance. Of course it backfired.
Gayle or not City were winning the title anyway. It's not like Liverpool were going to be ahead of them come the end of season with a win at Palace.If they do close it out, i would like United to give a 5 year contract to Gayle, and appoint Pullis on the board of directors
I remember when Blackburn won the title, Liverpool fans celebrated more than the Blackburn fans. Payback time.
..have said elsewhere...the club some of us older supporters grew up with will never come back again...even with whatever MUST does. So having said that...if the Glazers or any future owners do as you state...we have some hope. tbf I think the fact there has been some recognition of the Class of 92' and what they mean to us supporters, speaks well of the current owners. But like you say..in the end it is about business. Lets hope a top manager and committed players put supporters first when they go out to get the job done on the playing field.
Just got back from a nice break and watched this game. What a great week. I'm going for curry with a couple of students in the next two days as well.
Is there a compiled thread of all the title anguish over the years ?
we've had our fair share with Leeds,City,Chelsea,Arsenal and Blackburn to name a few sticking the knife in,looks like Liverpool have joined the party.
we've had our fair share with Leeds,City,Chelsea,Arsenal and Blackburn to name a few sticking the knife in,looks like Liverpool have joined the party.
Curry is crap.
You're going to the wrong places.
Only in Liverpool, funnily enough.
I only managed to find one decent Indian there after living there for 3 years. That one very good but the rest tasted like blended potatoes.
They were chasing goals. I wouldn't think it disrespectful. I think every team should try to score as much as they can in a football game. It's definitely not show boating. In fact there was no show boating at all in the game.
They were chasing a goal difference that was realistically never going to be caught though and I'm sure that they knew it, despite the players heroically taking the ball out of the net like that. I don't think it was showboating, but I do think that they showed a lack of respect to a Palace team that had won four games on the bounce. There was no need for it considering how impossible a task it actually was.
It was alright (even though pretty stupid) to chase the goal difference when they were still 3-0 up. Once Palace got their first goal that was the signal to sit back and protect the lead, they underestimated Palace because they thought they were never going to equalise.
This.
Which, as everyone was stating beforehand, was virtually impossible. To push for goal difference was incredibly stupid even without the benefit of hindsight. In doing so, Liverpool have shot themselves in the foot when if they had just played it safe and set out to beat Palace even just 1-0 you would still have a decent-enough chance of winning the league.
Imagine if they'd been a little less gung-ho at the end and it had stayed at 0-3. Everyone would be talking of the pressure building at City, the impressive form of Liverpool and the game tonight would be a much more nervy affair. As it is though, City can go into the game with a relaxed frame of mind knowing that 4 points at home against two of the weakest sides in the country will win them the title. These last couple of weeks for Liverpool will go down in history as an example of running out of steam and crumbling under pressure.
It may have been stupid at 1-0.. But I thought at 3-0 it wasn't necessarily idiotic to keep pushing because Palace looked like they were crumbling at that point (Pool almost got a fourth two times iirc) and even if they got caught on a counter it would only be 3-1. I think the big mistake was not consolidating when it got to 3-1 and especially 3-2. Poor leadership
The goal difference was 9 at the start of play. For GD to even matter, City would have needed to match Liverpools remaining results and lets say they were both wins, City would have won by a minimum of 1 goal in each game, making the GD in theory, 11 with Palace and Newcastle to go.
Whilst possible to beat Palace away and Newcastle at home by 5-0 and 6-0 for example, it was incredibly naive to think that was going to happen. They underestaimated Palace enormously and by picking the ball out of the net, thus speeding up the process by 10 seconds, my view is they simply spurred Palace on. The Liverpool attack may have been motivated but the resulting high tempo play obviously didn't do Sakho, Skrtel and Johnson any good as they were nowhere to be seen for the goals and looked incredibly tired. Pushing your players for an extra 10% they didn't necessarily need to give ended up leaving them exposed. Poor decision making in my eyes.
Whilst possible to beat Palace away and Newcastle at home by 5-0 and 6-0 for example, it was incredibly naive to think that was going to happen. They underestaimated Palace enormously and by picking the ball out of the net, thus speeding up the process by 10 seconds, my view is they simply spurred Palace on. The Liverpool attack may have been motivated but the resulting high tempo play obviously didn't do Sakho, Skrtel and Johnson any good as they were nowhere to be seen for the goals and looked incredibly tired. Pushing your players for an extra 10% they didn't necessarily need to give ended up leaving them exposed. Poor decision making in my eyes.
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not a lack of respect for palace at all but as mentioned when palace got one back Liverpool were incredibly naive. Gerard should have taken control and sat them deep with a bank of 5 in front of the back 4. With Suarez or a fresh Moses as a ball out to worry palace.