This gives me more faith mind.....
United linked with van Gaal in the meeja
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This gives me more faith mind.....
To a degree, but the playing staff need revitalising and a modernising of our football needs to be undertaken, Van Gaal is the perfect man to give us that base to work from and from there I would imagine a younger man would come in.
He has reached 3 finals. One less than Fergie, two more than Wenger and one more than Mourinho.
Has Moyes? No. So silly suggestion comparing his record with Moyes.
Tbf, Klopp and Guardiola are proven managers and imo don't fall into the bracket of young talented managers. Simione, I agree. But the team that hired him was Atletico Madrid, which isn't a top tier club like ours.
None of the listed managers are available?
Exactly. It seems to me that we're being diligent with details this time. Another problem which the impatient people are ignoring is that LvG is currently employed and on duty.Why are people getting their nickers in a twist over when we'll announce this? He's clearly going to be the new manager, just calm down.
People complained we got Moyes without a thorough interview process and now they're complaining that we won't announce this soon enough.
And Klopp is probably about the only one we'd take over Van Gaal.
Fergie has reached 3 finals in 4 seasons. Jose, Ancelotti and Pep have all been consistently good in Europe, that's seriously far more impressive despite a lower career winning percentage.
I'm just pointing out the fallacy in using win % to compare champions league performance. It is a perfectly good statistic when used to compare league performance because consistency and higher win-loss % wins you the league but the important thing in cup competitions is to win the knockout games.
Only one of those is managing a club comparable to United though. We've had our one chance at a risky choice of manager - foolishly going for the riskiest possible choice, one with no experience at all - and now is not the time to take a second risk.
This discussion is for another thread, but Moyes was the manager, its his job to deal with issues and manage the team. That was his role. He just wasn't good enough or strong enough to do it and he failed miserably. He got sacked. And we're all thankful for that.
I know last summer and the season we've just had has hurt some people mentally, some people are a dribbling, shaking mess that murmer the names of Moyes and Felliani uncontrollably and seek the solice of cold, dark rooms filled with cats. Pray for these people, for they will never be the same again.
But this is a time to be thankful that we are starting to look like we're correcting the massive mistakes made 12 months ago. LVG will be in place and we're probably going to have the busiest summer transfer window in 30 years.
5 days is nothing, if you're getting stressed now you're in for an awfully long and depressing summer!
It is taking ages. I dont remember anything happening like that at any other club. Every deal at United seem full of drama.
According to Klopp, United have not approached him for the job, and he had nothing to turn down. Can't see United wanting to pay a huge compensation fee when they just had to pay off Moyes. It has always been Van Gaal from the start, but this time they are probably asking him what his plans are instead of placing the job in his lap.
Agreed. With Moyes, SAF made the choice, the board went a long with it, Moyes given a 6 year contract and left to it.....the rest is history and we are now about to go down the right path in taking our time, hiring a proven, world-class manager in LVG and starting our transfer activity early.
I wouldn't call it a drama, which is usually created by media and fans.
It was a lack of effort and no adventurous attitude when bidding the maximum amounts to show superior interest in a player. Today, we have middle of May and it looks reasonably better than a last year.
Yup. I just had that feeling that Van Gaal would take over as soon as the newspapers leaked info about the meeting that United had with him when Moyes was still the manager. I know United denied it at the time, but i just had that feeling. I had wanted Klopp from the moment i heard Fergie was retiring, but would be more than happy with Van Gaal.
I meant the fans (us). For me it's either Klopp or Van Gaal, Klopp isn't available so there is really no other choice.
I know there are still people saying they want Mourinho, Pep, Simeone etc. Just seems from what I've read and seen in the polls on here and other sites that it is Van Gaal who most people want.
I want Klopp too. I just have this feeling that United have not approached him, or have not tried hard enough. I think it may be because they would have to pay a huge compensation fee to Dortmund.
Probably, I think they probably sounded out a few other managers before going for Van Gaal, but I wouldn't mind betting he was their first choice based on the fact he was known to be available and it would be an easy move to make.
I reckon after Van Gaal's term as manager (however long that may be), we'll see either Giggs take over, or there will be more options available such as perhaps Guardiola, Klopp, Ancelotti, and whoever may be flavour of the month at that time.
I doubt they even contacted Klopp based on what he has said in his press conferences, and because of the fact he's not long signed another contract.
We need to chill guys. He will be our manager. Whether it's tomorrow, next week or next month it won't matter in terms of our on-field preparation for next season, until after the World Cup. It's pretty likely that things like transfers etc. have already been discussed and that ball is firmly in Woodward's court right now.
If he comes, he comes. If he doesn't come... We'll be fine regardless.
When he comes, he comes. Until he comes... we'll be fine regardless.
Stop being spineless bitches
When he comes, he comes. Until he comes... we'll be fine regardless.
Stop being spineless bitches
Maybe we are waiting for Ancelotti to get fired after he fails with the Decima
How anyone can think we are even considering anyone else other than LvG at this stage is beyond belief. Did you not see Giggs being pictured in Holland yesterday?
Make up of backroom staff can still see the deal being scuppered. Hes not the type to back down.
This is not done.
There's no way at all the time its taking is because the man in question is up to his neck in world cup prep? Why does it all have to be the club's fault? There are only minor details to be sorted and he has a game to play too.
But it doesn't make sense to drag it out to get closer to the world cup if the aim is to not be too much of a distraction for the world cup. It's as if van Gaal/Woodward think the longer it takes the further away the world cup gets. I'd not be surprised at all if we have to wait until both all of the Dutch friendly games are out of the road and then the excuse will be "he flies off to Brazil tomorrow, it'd be crazy to start thinking about United now, we'll announce it when he gets back."
Holland, which happens to be directly between England and Germany. What better way to throw the media off the scent of Klopp or Pep than to meet in Holland?
And yes, I'm joking...mostly. However, I wouldn't be all that surprised if the club have been slow-playing Van Gaal waiting until seasons are over before talking to other candidates. Granted, if they went with someone else, that would be a big slap in the face to Van Gaal (unless LVG is aware that they're still looking around), but with the way Woodward has handled so many things the past year, I don't put it past him to string along of the great coaches in the game and then dick him over. PR gaffes are his thing.
I hope that you're right and the club isn't to blame here. We need to do a lot of work this summer and we simply cant afford another parody as seen during last summer. Everyone blame Moyes and/or the players on what happened last year. What many fail to see is that the team was screaming for new talent and we ended up with just Fellaini. That's unacceptable
Unless he's hankering over bringing in Keane, I don't see why anything would be hard to accommodate.
Exactly! We are embarrassing, we dither over frigging everything.
We bring unwarranted attention to the club, negative attention.
Of course we don't know why it's being delayed but I'm putting my money on wages or transfer budget.
Woody hinted that United had shown ambition recently by doing the following:
“with what we have done on the managerial front recently.”
His words to the investors this afternoon. It's done guys, read the full article here if you like.
Man United's next boss Louis van Gaal told to repair damage of Moyes' reign and £35m Champions League loss
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-uniteds-next-boss-louis-3546226
“with what we have done on the managerial front recently.”
His words to the investors this afternoon. It's done guys, read the full article here if you like.
Man United's next boss Louis van Gaal told to repair damage of Moyes' reign and £35m Champions League loss
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-uniteds-next-boss-louis-3546226
I was thinking this today but I doubt Giggs would fly to holland otherwise.
Referring to the ambition shown by "what we have done on the managerial front recently" could very easily be a reference to sacking Moyes for being 7th place. It shows ambition when a position that 2/3 of the league would have been thrilled with is considered such an unmitigated disaster that we fired a manager after just 10 months.
I think it's 90% likely that it's done, but just playing devil's advocate for the other 10%.
167 pages of comments? Moving on.
Moving on.That ambition worries me. Spuds fired Sherwood after just five months. And they were above us.
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