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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Not comparing Wayne to the Ronaldo of now, of course.
Don't think we will get either, which at times sums up being a MUFC fan when it comes to players, always left disappointed
Yes we have had our fair share of players payed for, but under the glazers, they have made sure we have been left disappointed in players bought, to save a few dollar signs
8 goals in two games. Bodes well.
Yup. If van Gaal can improve our offensive output even in the slightest I'll be delighted.
Funny how i see quite a few ppl mentioning "so LVG isn't that good after all" in the match thread.
I'd like to see any manager play with championship players and 3 world class players and demolish spain and win vs that Aussie team.
I'd like to see any manager play with championship players and 3 world class players and demolish spain and win vs that Aussie team.
Exactly. And Sneijder has been pretty bad too. So it's essentially been RvP and Robben as the only main threat so far.
m8 tom clevz looks like a legend compared to sneijder atm
Who is the third? There are only two.
Really?
2 games, 6 points, 8 scored, 3 conceded and they still think he's not good enough. What do people want
Dutch defence is their weakest area. It's hardly a surprise that they concede. You can't blame Van Gaal for that. Their best defender is Ron fecking Vlaar.
Anyone whose relying on the dutch performances in the WC to prove a point on LVG is an imbecile, it's totally irrelevant. I see people wanting him to join United as a WC winner as if it would end any debate about his ability to manage Manchester United, it's complete nonsense. He is already a proven manager with success in numerous countries, I would have preferred the Dutch to bow out at the group stage so he could start work immediately. Sadly that doesn't look to be the case.
Interesting tidbit from Evra:
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9354251/Evra-No-French-Egos
Reading way too much into things (a neccesary requirement on the Caf) interesting choice of words from our Paddy. He's insinuating that there was no discipline under Moyes? Or any discipline he tried to instill wasn't respected by the players?
Well I found it interesting anyway.
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9354251/Evra-No-French-Egos
Reading way too much into things (a neccesary requirement on the Caf) interesting choice of words from our Paddy. He's insinuating that there was no discipline under Moyes? Or any discipline he tried to instill wasn't respected by the players?
Well I found it interesting anyway.
Sneijder?
I don't think you're reading too much into it at all.
I always got the feeling that it was the latter.
World class? That's cutting it.
Not even 3. Just 2.
People are stupid if they think LVG is not that good enough because they din't beat Australia 5-1. Thats ridiculous.
Fairly typical that some people overreact to a tight game against Australia in the same way they overreacted to hammering Spain. As if these two games prove anything about LVG that wasn't already evident from his previous two decades as a manager.
Yep and tbh the two goals Holland conceded were a wonder goal and a wrongly given penalty kick. Even against Spain the only goal Holland conceded was a result of Costa's cheating.
This is one of the worst dutch teams I have seen in a while. However, Van Gaal has got them playing as he wants them to and they are winning.
Is that not exactly the position United are in and what we want?
Is that not exactly the position United are in and what we want?
That's exactly what I was planning to post in my original post but completely forgot
Adding to the fact that they conceded another penalty against Spain, so that makes two penalties and a wonder goal. You can't blame him for that.
Seriously are people moaning that they didn't beat Australia 5-1?
The Dutch had never beaten Australia. Australia in terms of sports are one of the most competitive and you'd rarely see them get thrashed. They should have got a point against Chile.
Even England struggle when we play Australia at football. They just one of those countries you don't want to play against.
The Dutch had never beaten Australia. Australia in terms of sports are one of the most competitive and you'd rarely see them get thrashed. They should have got a point against Chile.
Even England struggle when we play Australia at football. They just one of those countries you don't want to play against.
Considering the fact that Holland had never beaten Australia, I'd say it's a brilliant achievement that LvG got his squad to win against the Aussies. They are a tough team to beat and that was proved yesterday.
What people are also underestimating is that LvG entirely changed his tactics during the sub which is the real reason Holland won that game. Anything less than a World class coach would not have done that until the 70th minute or so. He has a confidence in what needs to be done.
Don't forget that we've already reached the stage, without a Premier League ball being kicked, where some here are already unhappy with him. See it in that hysterical context.
Exactly. The midfield of De Jong/Sneijder/De Guzman is performing pretty poorly, bar conceding fouls and giving the ball away.
Agreed . .
Happens a lot. You see it with players.....they miss a couple of easy chances and they're useless, score a couple of goals and then they're the best in the world.
Some are only able to assess players/managers in the present (immediate) moment. It's weird, almost as if they have no memory of anything that has gone before.
With Van Gaal, 'We will outscore our opponent' feeling will be back.
He needs to make sure he can get the best out of our defence and midfield, as that was our downfall last season
Slow news day. Mourinho thinks Van Gaal is good
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...l-is-BRILLIANT-but-Chile-s-Sampaoli-is-better
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...l-is-BRILLIANT-but-Chile-s-Sampaoli-is-better
Know its fotball365, but still a fairly interesting piece imo
http://www.football365.com/f365-features/9354695/Five-Things-We-re-Learning-About-Van-Gaal
http://www.football365.com/f365-features/9354695/Five-Things-We-re-Learning-About-Van-Gaal
Tbh I'm impressed by Chile team more than Holland. Yes Ned won Spain by a larger margin but In the first half, Spain had 2-3 clear chances to swing the game in their favor, they didn't really play well and RvP& Robben's goals were just unbelievable. Chile was just better than Spain in every way, numbers don't reflect the whole picture but don't get me wrong I ain't discrediting LvG, in fact his half time talk changed everything, the man clearly know what he's doing.
Anyway, It'll be very impressive if LvG can beat Chile in the next round but it won't change my opinion toward him if he fails. Judging him after a few matches is just absurd , also Holland w/o Rvp and Robben is just an average side.
Anyway, It'll be very impressive if LvG can beat Chile in the next round but it won't change my opinion toward him if he fails. Judging him after a few matches is just absurd , also Holland w/o Rvp and Robben is just an average side.
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The real positive from a good Dutch WC is that the media will start the season with a high opinion of him, as opposed to the criticism they'd be lining up if Netherlands had bombed out in the group stages. I guess it'll give extra confidence to our more impressionable supporters too.
Beyond that though we're not really going to learn anything about LVG that wasn't already evident from the his last two decades as a manger. His strengths and weaknesses are well documented at this stage.
Beyond that though we're not really going to learn anything about LVG that wasn't already evident from the his last two decades as a manger. His strengths and weaknesses are well documented at this stage.
Very well said. If someone has kept their eyes on his career they wouldn't change their rating of him depending on one game against Spain, nor if he had lost against Australia. He is still the same manager, exactly as good/bad.
Its a pity things are like that but its a very valid point. Imagine the headlines if Holland were heading home already.
I don't mind that. Although in 2012/13 we had that philosophy too much. Can't deal with the bloody stress of that.
You might want to add Sneijder's chance which was pretty much the best chance of the match, Diego Costa's insane dive and Diego Costa's 100% red card.
Because I ain't talking about 2nd half nor stupid ref' decisions. The point is Spain was the better side before RvP's goal, they could have done something different in that first half but in Chile match, they were completely beaten. I agree with Mourinho here, Chile is the most impressive team in this group ...so far. We'll see in the next round
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