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Rewind a year and you have Moyes the grafter taking a month holiday before starting the job. Just saying.
Where did you hear this? Moyes went on holiday for most of June and as far as I understand this was one of the reasons he joined on the 1st of July. There was also the matter he was still under contract with Everton but I am 100% sure he said he needed a holiday to prepare to take over here.
Which is why a lot here used to smirk at his comments about only coming here in July...
Id actually prefer him to take a week off. Starting at Carrington in a few days sounds exhausting after the world cup.
I don't think he needs it tbh, he had a nice break in May when he went to Portugal with his wife. He'll get a proper summer holiday next year.
The first International break is usually only 2-3 games into the season. He might head off for a short break then.
Will there be a press conference next week?
Get him over here for wednesday and hopefully he can announce Vidal and another top signing in his first press conference.
Being more realistic though he might as well stay over that side of the Atlantic take a week off and hook up with the squad in la about the 20th giving him a week or so to assess the players
Being more realistic though he might as well stay over that side of the Atlantic take a week off and hook up with the squad in la about the 20th giving him a week or so to assess the players
I think van Gaal will get to OT as soon as possible. He wont want to waste a single second. I bet he cant sleep for all the excitement.
Sorry mate but thats bullshit.
What exactly was he working behind the scenes on? Have you any proof of this? His tan (flaky sunburn) was probably the extent of it.
At the time everyone was saying its ok that hes on a 5 week holiday because he could be working behind the scenes with Woodward by phone/e-mail on transfers. Well guess what he wasn't, he strolled in on july 1st and only then did we start to make bids on players. Thats a fact we made our first bid for a player, Baines at the start of july.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...d-bid-for-leighton-baines-rejected-by-everton
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...d-bid-for-leighton-baines-rejected-by-everton
After working on a relatively small budget at Everton, in my opinion he thought he would go off and have a big long holiday for over a month and then just swan in and use United's money to sign Fabregas, Baines & Fellaini without much fuss, when what he should have been doing was working hard on scouting & preparing for the biggest opportunity of his career.
Dithering Dave is a moniker well earned.
Contrast that to Van Gaal coming off a busy schedule at a world cup and going straight into the job at United, no need for fecking about on holidays when theres work to be done as it should be.
Good point! He had a holiday before the World Cup.
Lazy bastard!
He went to Portugal with the Dutch NT i believe..lol
He's had three years generally doing very little. He's not going to need a holiday after a few weeks.
Quite. He's probably eager to get working
Nope, he was at his holiday home in the algarve before he took charge of the training camp you're refering to.
LVG strikes me as a passionate, "natural" manager - for him it is a job he loves, and his quotes imply that.
With that in mind, I believe him if he says he doesnt need a holiday. Why take a holiday from doing something that you enjoy? Plus as others have said, being an international manager is not exactly strenuous. Granted the World Cup is a pretty high pressure environment, but it seems that the culture and unity he had in the Dutch team would have helped relieve that - they all went there as a solid unit and enjoyed themselves.
With that in mind, I believe him if he says he doesnt need a holiday. Why take a holiday from doing something that you enjoy? Plus as others have said, being an international manager is not exactly strenuous. Granted the World Cup is a pretty high pressure environment, but it seems that the culture and unity he had in the Dutch team would have helped relieve that - they all went there as a solid unit and enjoyed themselves.
That article is the end of June for a start...
Do you have any proof he did no work before July 1st? Clearly he'd had his meetings with Woodward and co, and the fact we bid for players before he officially started shows targets had been identified. There's not a lot more he could've done than leave it to the club to get on with their job of recruiting players.
I just can't wait to hear him talking about his plans, seeing his early line ups for clues as to what's in store for us next season. WC finished now, seriously excited about the new season.
Come on mate please don't be so pedantic, the article is dated the 28th of june basically the start of july, ok maybe he gave the go ahead for a bid on Baines a player who had played for him for years, when he got back from his holiday at the end of june big deal.
Yes the fact we didn't bid on or agree deals for any players during May/June until the very end of of June (the Baines bid). In contrast to under SAF where we had usually agreed deals for 1-2 players before the July window even opened. Do you have any proof he did any work during his 5 week holiday?
Its not clear at all that he did much work before coming back from his Holiday, wasn't there a Jonathon Northcroft article where he said he couldn't even enter Carrington until after July 1st because he was still contracted to Everton. Not hard to believe he thought he couldn't do much with the United job while still under contract to Everton hence the unusually long holiday.
Targets had been identified? Who Baines, Fellaini & Fabregas, extensive scouting must have been employed to identify those three.
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You don't have to tell me how shit Moyes is. I've just yet to see the evidence that backs up this popular opinion that he didn't bother doing anything until July and took a luxury extended holiday for the fun of it after being given the biggest job of his career, which subsequently had a negative effect on his time here. I could be wrong. Seems to me he was just out of his depth in everything he did after that.
He's mentioned in an interview that he really misses the day to day life of club management and prefers it to international management for that reason. At a guess, I'd say he's chomping at the bit to get going.
Love his quotes about unity. Very much a manager who creates teams. Our players who coasted through games lady season are in for a big shock if they think they'll get away with it under Van Gaal. Will be an excellent manager & demand performances from his players! Get them working as a unit.
Will personally be very happy once the transfer window shuts, so can stop reading about how shite our players are & x, y & z players are the way forward. Van Gaal will make unpopular calls for the benefit of the team & will see the true potential in certain players we already have, that a lot of our fans don't. So looking forward to next season, even with no more signings, you just know there will be massive improvements in how the players are prepared & motivated!
Will personally be very happy once the transfer window shuts, so can stop reading about how shite our players are & x, y & z players are the way forward. Van Gaal will make unpopular calls for the benefit of the team & will see the true potential in certain players we already have, that a lot of our fans don't. So looking forward to next season, even with no more signings, you just know there will be massive improvements in how the players are prepared & motivated!
Look mate i don't actually think Moyes is a shit manager hes good for a certain level of team, but like you i just think he was unsuited to the job and out of his depth and comfort zone. Having said that its my opinion that he did little or no work on transfers for United until around the time he was officially in the job for whatever reason. The fact we didn't sign anyone until deadline day in august backs this opinion up, people said it could have been Woodwards fault at the time, but Mata plus this summers deals disprove that theory for me.
Whatever my or your opinion is us not signing the players we needed last summer did have a negative effect on our season, had we signed a few quality players in positions we needed im of the opinion we would have qualified for the CL and no doubt Moyes would still be in a job, sorry but for me the blame for this rests squarely on Moyes.
Fair play to him. Possibly the most influential person behind Germany winning the world cup except Lowe.
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Once he sees our squad he'l be wanting a holiday....
Good post!
Yup. The difference in mentalities is pretty staggering I think.
Good post.
People asking LVG to be fired before he actually starts the season needs to think again, at least give him a chance with the Reserves.
Van Gaal doesn't need a break, international football is not as demanding as club football time/workload wise. Get him through the door asap and start working with the players.
Didn't he actually take a holiday before the world cup? I thought he had been at his villa in Portugal having a holiday.
Good attitude so far.
It's felt like a lifetime waiting for his First interview. Not long now.
This.
I'd say it doesn't get any more demanding than the World Cup. I agree that he will be fine without a break though.
I definitely dont think he would feel burnt out at this stage. While its true that the WC is a very intense and demanding experience (he says like he has any idea) it is only around a month long, from all the squad getting together until flying home. The preparation that came before wouldnt be anything like as physically or mentally draining.
Van Gaal is ready no worries there. It is the players who will be more drained after the whole experience, especially those who made it to the knockout stages. They should all be rested. Especially Van Persie.
Van Gaal is ready no worries there. It is the players who will be more drained after the whole experience, especially those who made it to the knockout stages. They should all be rested. Especially Van Persie.
The man is a workaholic. He described the daily job of beeing national manager for the qualifying campaign as a sacrifice, a sacrifice he had to make because he wanted those 7 weeks of preparation and WC so much. He wants to work with players, feet on the grass every day. I do not expect any problems of tiredness or lack of sharpness.
he'll want to get started right away and given our poor showing last season its absolutely the right message to send too.
getting straight on that training ground, and putting everyone through their paces. The players need to know he means business and taking it easy will not be tolerated.
he and everyone else can have a holiday at the end of the season when we've got out trophy back
getting straight on that training ground, and putting everyone through their paces. The players need to know he means business and taking it easy will not be tolerated.
he and everyone else can have a holiday at the end of the season when we've got out trophy back
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