Arturo Vidal

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I think Feed Me has won the thread. That was a rally cry for all muppets. I think I'm ready to go back into battle now, cock out and everything.
 
Exactly.

It's as though some posters are incapable of reading between the lines - they just take what's said as gospel; hence all the flip-flopping of moods!

United are clearly approaching this summer's transfer window with a different tact - they're keeping their business under wraps and not making public pronouncements. Has Woody been quoted once this summer? Not that I've seen...

The English press have clearly been briefed that Vidal isn't on our radar - that doesn't mean we are telling the truth. We could be, but football is littered with instances where clubs have been economical with the truth to throw the media off the scent. "Wouldn't sell that mob a virus"...

Finally, Juventus were always going to flex their muscles at yesterday's presser. Losing Conte was a blow, so they were hardly going to follow it up by saying Vidal is for sale - the Juve fans are already up in arms. The way I saw it, they were saying that the club doesn't want to sell and if a deal does happen, it'll be because Vidal forced it. It's a common method for transferring blame from the club to the player.

So, in summary, Vidal might or might not move to United, but press suggestions that he's not on our radar are absurd - there's way too much smoke. Suggestions that we're baulking at the asking prove are also stupid given how much we've spent on Herrera and Shaw.

We go through this roller coaster every time we sign a player, I would've thought - as seasoned muppets - you'd all be used to it by now!
Epic post. Well done sir :)
 
To me it seems as though Vidal is available at the right price. He's happy to stay at Juve but at the same time would be happy to start a new challenge. Juve don't want to sell but may have to if they get a decent offer. But the noise coming out of the club is we aren't even remotely interested in the player? Hopefully Van Gaal puts it to bed one way or the other today if we genuinely do have any interest in signing him.
 
Exactly.

It's as though some posters are incapable of reading between the lines - they just take what's said as gospel; hence all the flip-flopping of moods!

United are clearly approaching this summer's transfer window with a different tact - they're keeping their business under wraps and not making public pronouncements. Has Woody been quoted once this summer? Not that I've seen...

The English press have clearly been briefed that Vidal isn't on our radar - that doesn't mean we are telling the truth. We could be, but football is littered with instances where clubs have been economical with the truth to throw the media off the scent. "Wouldn't sell that mob a virus"...

Finally, Juventus were always going to flex their muscles at yesterday's presser. Losing Conte was a blow, so they were hardly going to follow it up by saying Vidal is for sale - the Juve fans are already up in arms. The way I saw it, they were saying that the club doesn't want to sell and if a deal does happen, it'll be because Vidal forced it. It's a common method for transferring blame from the club to the player.

So, in summary, Vidal might or might not move to United, but press suggestions that he's not on our radar are absurd - there's way too much smoke. Suggestions that we're baulking at the asking prove are also stupid given how much we've spent on Herrera and Shaw.

We go through this roller coaster every time we sign a player, I would've thought - as seasoned muppets - you'd all be used to it by now!

I was borderline out this morning and was going to actually do some work today, but now I'm right back in :drool:
 
It's a particularly good post because it's a reasonable analysis of the situation rather than a lot of the unrealistic pie in the sky stuff you get from the battle hardened muppets.
 
Hopefully Van Gaal puts it to bed one way or the other today if we genuinely do have any interest in signing him.
Depends if we want to make it a public pursuit. If not, then he either won't say anything, or he'll deny it. Of course either of those things could mean that actually we are not interested as well.
 
and that's exactly why he is stuck on MUTV and not on a respected



well you prove my point, kids or olde fella's in the "twilight of their careers"

its rare we go out and buy a player thats is on the cusp of the peak of their career or smack dab in the midst of it....
No I didn't, I went back over a decade and found only three players signed over 30! It's true that we tend to sign young players rather than players at their peak but we still do the latter when we feel we need to and RVP is the prime example. But it's a strategy, not a weakness - if we go the way of City and our team is full of foreign players who didn't develop at the club, I'd be gutted.
 
Exactly.

It's as though some posters are incapable of reading between the lines - they just take what's said as gospel; hence all the flip-flopping of moods!

United are clearly approaching this summer's transfer window with a different tact - they're keeping their business under wraps and not making public pronouncements. Has Woody been quoted once this summer? Not that I've seen...

The English press have clearly been briefed that Vidal isn't on our radar - that doesn't mean we are telling the truth. We could be, but football is littered with instances where clubs have been economical with the truth to throw the media off the scent. "Wouldn't sell that mob a virus"...

Finally, Juventus were always going to flex their muscles at yesterday's presser. Losing Conte was a blow, so they were hardly going to follow it up by saying Vidal is for sale - the Juve fans are already up in arms. The way I saw it, they were saying that the club doesn't want to sell and if a deal does happen, it'll be because Vidal forced it. It's a common method for transferring blame from the club to the player.

So, in summary, Vidal might or might not move to United, but press suggestions that he's not on our radar are absurd - there's way too much smoke. Suggestions that we're baulking at the asking prove are also stupid given how much we've spent on Herrera and Shaw.

We go through this roller coaster every time we sign a player, I would've thought - as seasoned muppets - you'd all be used to it by now!
i personally think thier has been so much smoke just because fans have gone nuts for him(rightly so as he a great player) and it seemed that the press started linking us to him just because there so many fans where linking us to him. and the press quickly learned that if the included the words vidal and man united in thier articles then thier circulation went through the roof. they simply printed what the fans wanted to read.

for me it seems at most thier was a vague enquiry from a third party about his availability which juventus rebuffed and that was that.

mainly i just think it was a small story that has been blown out of all proportion becos he is a player fans want to see at united.
 
Van Gaal 100% will not mention any players by name today. In fact I'd say if he's asked about anyone in particular he'll destroy the reporter in question.

The club are clearly going a different direction to last Summer when they made a complete show of themselves by acting all Billy big bollox, leaking info left right and centre and publically pursuing players who all rejected us.
 
Apparently his agent is due in Italy now, I guess that's some sort of progress.

 
I don't expect Van Gaal to offer up any clues at the presser. But hopefully Mitten has an update today.
 
Exactly.

It's as though some posters are incapable of reading between the lines - they just take what's said as gospel; hence all the flip-flopping of moods!

United are clearly approaching this summer's transfer window with a different tact - they're keeping their business under wraps and not making public pronouncements. Has Woody been quoted once this summer? Not that I've seen...

The English press have clearly been briefed that Vidal isn't on our radar - that doesn't mean we are telling the truth. We could be, but football is littered with instances where clubs have been economical with the truth to throw the media off the scent. "Wouldn't sell that mob a virus"...

Finally, Juventus were always going to flex their muscles at yesterday's presser. Losing Conte was a blow, so they were hardly going to follow it up by saying Vidal is for sale - the Juve fans are already up in arms. The way I saw it, they were saying that the club doesn't want to sell and if a deal does happen, it'll be because Vidal forced it. It's a common method for transferring blame from the club to the player.

So, in summary, Vidal might or might not move to United, but press suggestions that he's not on our radar are absurd - there's way too much smoke. Suggestions that we're baulking at the asking prove are also stupid given how much we've spent on Herrera and Shaw.

We go through this roller coaster every time we sign a player, I would've thought - as seasoned muppets - you'd all be used to it by now!
Possibly. But to me the Juve comments made no difference. It was the timing of all of these journalists coming out and saying we're not after him. I know on here that it's fashionable to dismiss everything the media say as nonsense but given the timing and the obviously concerted nature of it it's hard not to be sceptical. That had all the feel of preparing the ground for LVG's first press conference. Put the story about that we're not in for him and it becomes less of a headline story out of his first press conference as manager. At this point I'd be very surprised if we get him. Equally I have no idea what the actual reason is as I don't buy that we wouldn't like him.

My expectation is that LVG will kill this today in his press conference and it'll be on to the next one.
 
i personally think thier has been so much smoke just because fans have gone nuts for him(rightly so as he a great player) and it seemed that the press started linking us to him just because there so many fans where linking us to him. and the press quickly learned that if the included the words vidal and man united in thier articles then thier circulation went through the roof. they simply printed what the fans wanted to read.

for me it seems at most thier was a vague enquiry from a third party about his availability which juventus rebuffed and that was that.

mainly i just think it was a small story that has been blown out of all proportion becos he is a player fans want to see at united.

Indeed, this looks like all the sagas that ended up in disappointment - Sneijder, Hazard, Benzema etc. We're interested but we have no chance.
 
Indeed, this looks like all the sagas that ended up in disappointment - Sneijder, Hazard, Benzema etc. We're interested but we have no chance.
at least those times we seemed to have genniuly strong interest, even possibly bidding, this one seems to have been at most a quick enquiry that got blown out of all proportion.
 
From James Ducker:

United have signed Ander Herrera from Athletic Bilbao but Van Gaal is chasing another midfielder, although the club are not pursuing Arturo Vidal, of Juventus. He also wants a centre half, another left back and ideally a winger-cum-forward. Ángel di María, of Real Madrid, is a potential target.
 
Exactly.

It's as though some posters are incapable of reading between the lines - they just take what's said as gospel; hence all the flip-flopping of moods!

United are clearly approaching this summer's transfer window with a different tact - they're keeping their business under wraps and not making public pronouncements. Has Woody been quoted once this summer? Not that I've seen...

The English press have clearly been briefed that Vidal isn't on our radar - that doesn't mean we are telling the truth. We could be, but football is littered with instances where clubs have been economical with the truth to throw the media off the scent. "Wouldn't sell that mob a virus"...

Finally, Juventus were always going to flex their muscles at yesterday's presser. Losing Conte was a blow, so they were hardly going to follow it up by saying Vidal is for sale - the Juve fans are already up in arms. The way I saw it, they were saying that the club doesn't want to sell and if a deal does happen, it'll be because Vidal forced it. It's a common method for transferring blame from the club to the player.

So, in summary, Vidal might or might not move to United, but press suggestions that he's not on our radar are absurd - there's way too much smoke. Suggestions that we're baulking at the asking prove are also stupid given how much we've spent on Herrera and Shaw.

We go through this roller coaster every time we sign a player, I would've thought - as seasoned muppets - you'd all be used to it by now!


I do think most of us are used to it. However, I feel there is an air of desperation this transfer season considering the awful one we had last summer and the depressing season we have just had. I'm sensing a hunger to sign speedily enough high standard players to ward off the fear of us possibily having a similar campaign next season.
 
Possibly. But to me the Juve comments made no difference. It was the timing of all of these journalists coming out and saying we're not after him. I know on here that it's fashionable to dismiss everything the media say as nonsense but given the timing and the obviously concerted nature of it it's hard not to be sceptical. That had all the feel of preparing the ground for LVG's first press conference. Put the story about that we're not in for him and it becomes less of a headline story out of his first press conference as manager. At this point I'd be very surprised if we get him. Equally I have no idea what the actual reason is as I don't buy that we wouldn't like him.

My expectation is that LVG will kill this today in his press conference and it'll be on to the next one.

Also, imagine if most media outlets came out and said "we are on the brink of signing Vidal." We'd all buy into it like it's written in stone. We like selectively choosing when we trust the media and when we don't. I hope we sign Vidal, but I've already accepted it's unlikely. At least this way I won't feel too bad if we don't get him, but if we do, i'll go nuts! :lol:
 
Meh, I know it's Ducker but I'm not buying this shite. As said before, the club is keeping its cards very close to its chest.
Earlier in the thread people thought Ducker was the man, now that he's saying stuff people on here don't like to hear then we're not buying his shite.

United wont buy Vidal, not a fecking chance. We don't go out and buy the world best players, never have, never will. We have a different transfer policy to PSG, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern and City.
 
I wish I could just fast forward to the first game of the season and be rid of all this nonsense. Yet at the same time I can't help but constantly check for new updates. feck the modern age.
 
Makes sense and he's a typical Madrid signing. Although they did just sign Kroos.
Completely different player. They'll lose a midfielder with energy when Khedira goes, need a replacement in similar mould.
 
As much as I would love Vidal, I believe Ducker to be honest. I think we may well have made enquiries but now realise that Vidal would be a very difficult transfer to pull off and we have moved onto other targets in midfield. De Jong has always been my hunch but really it could be anyone.
 
Don't doubt that for a minute. Other clubs manage these quick deals.
To be fair it's mainly Madrid who do. Usually a week or so since their first interest to a signing unless it's a record deal in which case they like to prolong it.
 
Completely different player. They'll lose a midfielder with energy when Khedira goes, need a replacement in similar mould.
surely that should be if khedira goes? they may may want him to play with kroos considering how well they worked together for germany.
 
Don't doubt that for a minute. Other clubs manage these quick deals.
Where's this coming from exactly? Chelsea were negotiating for Costa and Luis for ages, likewise Arsenal and Sanchez. Madrid and Kroos. Barca and Suarez.

I'd say between the time that it became clear we wanted to get Herrera and the deal being confirmed was shorter than almost any other big money signing so far this summer, the closest possibly being Fabregas.

Basically, it's crap, we're not some special case whereby we take a mammoth time compared to other clubs because of some weird way we operate, that's just how transfers in general work.
 
Arsenal signed Sanchez a matter of hours after the world cup. Real Madrid signed Kroos today just as he fecking stepped off the plane after the WC. I could go on and on.
Most of those had been negotiated before the tournament even started to be fair.
 
Where's this coming from exactly? Chelsea were negotiating for Costa and Luis for ages, likewise Arsenal and Sanchez. Madrid and Kroos. Barca and Suarez.

I'd say between the time that it became clear we wanted to get Herrera and the deal being confirmed was shorter than almost any other big money signing so far this summer, the closest possibly being Fabregas.

Basically, it's crap, we're not some special case whereby we take a mammoth time compared to other clubs because of some weird way we operate, that's just how transfers in general work.
Barca took ages with Suarez did they? After he bit Chiellini he was a Barca player in no time at all.
 
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