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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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It might just have been to say nice things. We see stuff like that often
True.
I really hate this idea of Giggs being our next manager. He has no experience at all and this isn't a club where you can afford to learn as you go. Moyes showed us that, why repeat the mistake?
Taking charge of a few league games still isn't proof that he'd be able to manage the club all on his own.
Well I do. You know, the fact he's never managed a football club before in his life. Thats a pretty big issue.
How about just football. If they're a former player, it should be incidental, not the driving factor.
That's the beauty of him managing at United imo. We're a traditional club who believe the manager has the final say on every aspect of the footballing side of the club. Iv'e read reports that he's told Ed Woodward that we need to shorten next seasons summer tour so the team can be better prepared for the opening game. He's a perfectionist as we've already seen with half of Carrington being ripped up within days of him being appointed. I'll be so glad to see the back of the infamous "Zombie" football and over excessive wide play. he's just a perfect match imo, and can't wait for the First game.
Agreed. Article like this with such headline is unnecessary! For christ sake, the new boss is only days into the job and they were talking about Giggsy's future. Let the man do his job and let Giggsy do his job and we will talk after one or two years or three years.. What's the hurry!!!
Like Rafa? Scolari?
Consistant winners are a rare commodity, and sporadic ones are a risk.
If Giggs can learn how to do it from years under Two WC managers, and one year on how not to do it, there is no telling how good (or bad) he may be.
He will certainly be able to take over a working model, where a new man might throw out the baby with the bath-water, like Danger Moyes did by clearing out our coaching staff.
Yep. Fergie didn't adhere to this when he chose his successor though, I'm still of the opinion that the great man went with his heart rather than this head.
Have we all seen the interview with Louis where he makes sensible comments about our commercial interests taking over from our football interests in preseason? Says he's been promised a different approach next Summer when hopefully we'll be in Europe and won't have the same pressure to balance the books.
He was prob right to dampen expectations of winning the league too when he said how difficult it is to win the PL, as opposed to the Dutch or German leagues where no club could match his teams spending. Some people were freaking out in his first press conference, some clown even said we should have got him years ago instead of letting Fergie continue.
The truth is that some teams were already well ahead last season, and in particular Chelsea have really strengthened. They are also playing it smart staying in Europe for their preseason tour, only travelling 3,000km to our 12,000km. I think Louis realises this having worked with the squad for a while now. I'm still hopeful a strong start with our favourable fixtures combined with a couple of new signings can push us to a good season, if not the league title.
He was prob right to dampen expectations of winning the league too when he said how difficult it is to win the PL, as opposed to the Dutch or German leagues where no club could match his teams spending. Some people were freaking out in his first press conference, some clown even said we should have got him years ago instead of letting Fergie continue.
The truth is that some teams were already well ahead last season, and in particular Chelsea have really strengthened. They are also playing it smart staying in Europe for their preseason tour, only travelling 3,000km to our 12,000km. I think Louis realises this having worked with the squad for a while now. I'm still hopeful a strong start with our favourable fixtures combined with a couple of new signings can push us to a good season, if not the league title.
"These are small and the ones out there are far away....small...far away" classic Father Ted
Whoever gets it first wins a prize.
Yep. As much as I love Giggsy I remember being fairly unimpressed by him during his short spell and in that documentary. After the goosebumps had died down I was pretty meh towards him and how he came across.
Giggs looked woefully short of any of the qualities of a great manager in that documentary.
I'm terrified at the prospect of Giggs being manager if I'm honest. I just feel we'll go backwards.
Why are we even talking about Giggs taking over from LVG?
First of all he hasn't proved shit and secondly LVG has just arrived here and not even managed a single game yet.
First of all he hasn't proved shit and secondly LVG has just arrived here and not even managed a single game yet.
Because m8 if you read back there was an article saying that United's hierarchy saw him as a replacement for van Gaal hth
Anyways how has LVG been in the transfer windows so far att all clubs?
Has he been a big spender? Has a signed a proper world class player before? Or does he only like buying players with potentia?
Has he been a big spender? Has a signed a proper world class player before? Or does he only like buying players with potentia?
Yea I mean we as in everyone.
That's painfully true imo. Hopefully that's where van Gaal steps in and opens their eyes about modern coaching.
The scene in the tactics room was worrying, but it was the speech just before the last game that sealed it. The motivational qualities of a man describing a motorway slip road on valium.
Not sure Piers would know the look or sounds of a winner. Being a loser and an Arsenal supporter.
How was my post 'worked up'? And how is 'imagining the conversation' not a good description for what you're doing here:I like this picture. It is as if Giggs was saying, "We did our summer tour every year and we are quite used to that", and LvG said "don't you tell the press this!"... Giggsy obviously is very used to the commercial side of the club. Under Sir Alex, things always went seamlessly. Differences always resolved behind closed doors. LvG will learn.
Possibly you're the one taking things a bit too seriously?
Full press conference.
SAF was a great motivator and speaker much better than van Gaal will ever be imo. If Giggs is going along the same lines, then he has a whole world of tactical knowledge to catch up to. SAF admitted himself he was a dinasour in regards to the modern game. Hopefully Giggs can be a hybrid between the Two of them, but the jury's definitely still out imo.
Ha ha ha haha what a div Piers Morgan is!
Pleonastic.
Why should he be so keen on buying players when he is known to be the one that is making superstars?
Yeah when it comes to United, we can be taking it a bit seriously. I thought you were criticising people making up conversations. If you weren't then I apologise.
Possibly you're the one taking things a bit too seriously?
I'm warming up to the idea of Giggs taking over. He's watched Ferguson do it. He's seen Moyes failed, and probably could take lessons from that. And he is going to be learning from a proper European coach. Hell, he's even dipped his toe a little last season.
If a few years down the road, we surround him with good technical staff, combined with the respect he commands and his knowledge of the club, plus his experiences with Ferguson, and Van Gaal, I'd be onboard with Ryan Giggs as Manchester United manager.
But he's gotta keep his eye on the ball for now, and that is to help Van Gaal bring us back where we belong.
If a few years down the road, we surround him with good technical staff, combined with the respect he commands and his knowledge of the club, plus his experiences with Ferguson, and Van Gaal, I'd be onboard with Ryan Giggs as Manchester United manager.
But he's gotta keep his eye on the ball for now, and that is to help Van Gaal bring us back where we belong.
I agree that we should not be signing just for the sake of signing (to please some fans and transfer muppets). If he's that good, he would be able to get the most out of the the existing players and it goes without saying we have loads of talents within the club (I am happy as long as Fellaini and Young are being sold that is!
Can't help but smile at those training vids. He's bonding well with the lads it seems.
These pre-season games are going to be very tough, but it won't be the results that matter it will be the response to any setbacks we suffer.
These pre-season games are going to be very tough, but it won't be the results that matter it will be the response to any setbacks we suffer.
I don't mind wide play at all, but it depends on what the purpose of it is. For Moyes, wide play was the end in itself, whereas, with Van Gaal, wide play is the means to an end. If I recall correctly, Van Gaal likes his wide men to stay very wide so that the ball can be switched from one side to the other, stretching out the players compacting the centre in order to penetrate the central space opened with incisive passing. If that is indeed what we'll see then fantastic.
Me too, but it has to have variety and not the same old repetitive approach. I'm not having a go at Moyes either, because it happened under SAF. Looking at how Bayern (for instance) used width last season in the CL, was a master class how it should be played. Using central areas of the pitch last season was almost none existent. I'm looking forward to that changing.
I for one agree with you, but I don't think it's a big deal. Some managers like Fergie were happy to take a back seat during training, others like to get involved. However when it was Moyes playing a bit of keep ball with the lads he got stick for trying to be one of the boys and not the boss. People will see what they want to see I suppose.
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