Louis van Gaal | Manchester United manager

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Let me clarify, I meant the public criticism was unnecessary, not the criticism himself. Fergie most of the time knew how to shield his players in public and give them a bollocking in private, that's the way to go, public "bluntness" like this serves no purpose except to impress people on here with his "straight talking" it seems.
That's something Ferguson and Van Gaal have in common then. Van Gaal is blunt, but protective of his players, always has been and probably will be from his 63th and on. Maybe he said something that was taken the wrong way or something slipped off his tongue, in general he is a manager who only names individual players by exception, when they have done extremely well in someway. He'll take the heat himself, and judge perfomances in terms of 'we' when speaking in public. I don't expect you will see hem critisizing individual players in public a lot.
 
That's something Ferguson and Van Gaal have in common then. Van Gaal is blunt, but protective of his players, always has been and probably will be from his 63th and on. Maybe he said something that was taken the wrong way or something slipped off his tongue, in general he is a manager who only names individual players by exception, when they have done extremely well in someway. He'll take the heat himself, and judge perfomances in terms of 'we' when speaking in public. I don't expect you will see hem critisizing individual players in public a lot.
This!
 
Yeah he seemed quite jovial considering he's straight talking but with a little humour particularly about Amos! I didn't find him scathing or abrasive towards our players in any way!

Where did you guys find a video of the interview? And was it complete or just some snippets? Really looking for a site that shows all our press conferences and pre and post match talks, because I can't really find what I want on youtube. Or was it MUTV? I waited and waited but after they showed 30 seconds of Cleverly and then again 12 minutes of Paddy I turned it off.
 
If some of us think that he's being critical now then I can't wait to see what's said when he is actually being critical! I think he was actually quite understanding of the conditions and I've seen the interview a few times now. I can't understand the furore!
It's refreshing to have a manager with high standards!

A lot of the Moyes supporters last season pretty much revealed themselves to be the shockingly low-standards type. Obviously these folks are still United supporters so I've no doubt we'll hear from them about how Van Gaal's manner and approach is unacceptable for such a 'moral' club like Manchester United and all that other romantic nonsense.

Van Gaal like you said is refreshing and I don't know why anyone would criticise him for stating the obvious as he's done so far. Ferguson was a complete arsehole at times during his tenure and I find it strange some people are going to reject Van Gaal for similar behaviour.

Contrary to this idea he's a 'hard' manager to work for, I actually think Van Gaal has a tad more warmth than Ferguson as this early stage.
 
Where did you guys find a video of the interview? And was it complete or just some snippets? Really looking for a site that shows all our press conferences and pre and post match talks, because I can't really find what I want on youtube. Or was it MUTV? I waited and waited but after they showed 30 seconds of Cleverly and then again 12 minutes of Paddy I turned it off.
I've seen it on MUTV on various programmes throughout today. Don't know where else you can get it from, sorry dude!
 
A lot of the Moyes supporters last season pretty much revealed themselves to be the shockingly low-standards type. Obviously these folks are still United supporters so I've no doubt we'll hear from them about how Van Gaal's manner and approach is unacceptable for such a 'moral' club like Manchester United and all that other romantic nonsense.

Van Gaal like you said is refreshing and I don't know why anyone would criticise him for stating the obvious as he's done so far. Ferguson was a complete arsehole at times during his tenure and I find it strange some people are going to reject Van Gaal for similar behaviour.

Contrary to this idea he's a 'hard' manager to work for, I actually think Van Gaal has a tad more warmth than Ferguson as this early stage.
Absolutely, he is the type of manager I would have like to succeed Ferguson! Mind you he acts as the perfect palette cleanser for last season. If anything it shows the glazers and the board the importance of experience and having a patriarchal figure in charge. Everything we lacked last season and the results spoke for themselves.
 
No problem. Never bothered to check the programming, but now I know interviews do get aired on that beautiful channel, so I will check it out.
It's a bit hit and miss sometimes with the listings on MUTV with programmes that are scheduled to be on but I watch the channel more than any other to be honest particularly leading up to match days and post match days.
 
A lot of the Moyes supporters last season pretty much revealed themselves to be the shockingly low-standards type. Obviously these folks are still United supporters so I've no doubt we'll hear from them about how Van Gaal's manner and approach is unacceptable for such a 'moral' club like Manchester United and all that other romantic nonsense.

Van Gaal like you said is refreshing and I don't know why anyone would criticise him for stating the obvious as he's done so far. Ferguson was a complete arsehole at times during his tenure and I find it strange some people are going to reject Van Gaal for similar behaviour.

Contrary to this idea he's a 'hard' manager to work for, I actually think Van Gaal has a tad more warmth than Ferguson as this early stage.

Louis van Gaal is very well known for his high moral values, so I'm not sure what you are on about.
 
He also considers Kagawa as one our best passers. I don't think he's going anywhere
Well hopefully he doesn't go. Always been a fan of him and he is one the few who will adapt quickly to this possession type game we are trying to do because he is an intelligent player and has done so before at Dortmund.
 
Probably not after one game? He also considers Mata and Herrera among our best best passers.

I'm sorry, I really don't understand what you are getting at.

Yes, he probably wants to keep Kagawa based on the quote he gave after the game yesterday, that previous time you quoted me I was pointing out to a poster that a quote attributed to Van Gaal was made up.
 
I'm sorry, I really don't understand what you are getting at.

Yes, he probably wants to keep Kagawa based on the quote he gave after the game yesterday, that previous time you quoted me I was pointing out to a poster that a quote attributed to Van Gaal was made up.
Oh ok I get it.
 
Louis van Gaal is very well known for his high moral values, so I'm not sure what you are on about.

Completely irrelevant point and an odd rebuttal to what I've said in my post.

I'm referring to the fact some people seem to think Manchester United are a 'better' club than others and in their eyes, we should do things 'The United Way' and all that. Some in this thread have already suggested LVG is over stepping the mark with some of his criticism and I'm simply offering the view that there's nothing wrong with his behaviour thus far.
 
I really really hope we don't stick with this 3-5-2 formation, we have no reason for playing 5 defenders. I don't understand why he doesn't buy the right players for his famous 4-3-3 philosophy.
 
This "United way" bollix needs to die a death. Right now!!

My father has been following United since 1956...He says the "United way" is the biggest load of bullshit going and he's right!

"Oh it's not the United way to sack managers. Moyes will be given time".......Really?
 
This "United way" bollix needs to die a death. Right now!!

My father has been following United since 1956...He says the "United way" is the biggest load of bullshit going and he's right!

"Oh it's not the United way to sack managers. Moyes will be given time".......Really?

It's not the United way to say there's no United way though.
 
I really really hope we don't stick with this 3-5-2 formation, we have no reason for playing 5 defenders. I don't understand why he doesn't buy the right players for his famous 4-3-3 philosophy.
Because we already have great forwards that you can't drop. If one of them get injured we'd probably switch, but when they are fit itll be a 3-4-1-2. His philosophy is the same anyways, just the formation can change depending on the personnel.

And its not 5 defenders. Its 2 wide players who are both wing backs and wingers to provide the width.
 
I wouldn't mind this 'United Way' thing if we actually played like it. So far it seems it only applies to giving Moyes time and playing 442. If we had breathtaking wingers and played at a fast tempo i could understand it but this invented tradition is just standing in the way of progress.
 
I really really hope we don't stick with this 3-5-2 formation, we have no reason for playing 5 defenders. I don't understand why he doesn't buy the right players for his famous 4-3-3 philosophy.

Why? Then your either shoehorning two of three of our best players into positions that are not there best. Or you have at least £50 million of talent on the bench and having to buy another £50 million worth of players, when other parts of the squad need addressing.
 
I wouldn't mind this 'United Way' thing if we actually played like it. So far it seems it only applies to giving Moyes time and playing 442. If we had breathtaking wingers and played at a fast tempo i could understand it but this invented tradition is just standing in the way of progress.

The 442 with fast wingers?

Yeah, I get that. I understand that completely....But you've seen the Giggsy documentary yes?

Giggs, P Nev, Scholes, Butt, all in a room discussing tactics....Clueless!!
"I like Valenica's pace"

And these were/are expected to carry on the "United way".....It makes me wonder what went on half the time
 
I wouldn't mind this 'United Way' thing if we actually played like it. So far it seems it only applies to giving Moyes time and playing 442. If we had breathtaking wingers and played at a fast tempo i could understand it but this invented tradition is just standing in the way of progress.

Basically the 'United Way' is a made up description of playing good attacking football in a very particular way. Completely ignoring all the other great teams over the years that have played great football with different types of players, strategies and formations. It's basically some of United's alumni and supporters version of "things were better in the old days."
 
This "United way" bollix needs to die a death. Right now!!

My father has been following United since 1956...He says the "United way" is the biggest load of bullshit going and he's right!

"Oh it's not the United way to sack managers. Moyes will be given time".......Really?

And that matters one iota, because?
 
I really really hope we don't stick with this 3-5-2 formation, we have no reason for playing 5 defenders. I don't understand why he doesn't buy the right players for his famous 4-3-3 philosophy.
Were not playing with 5 defenders, we're playing with 3 and two wing backs if you could even call them that. It's a much more attacking system than a straight up 4-3-3
 
reading through this thread, some of you are worry warts. Don't think there's really been anything we've seen thus far to worry about. In fact, in feels like balance has been restored at the club.
 


Part of me feels that Ogden trots out too many cliches in this article and risks burying his own key points as a result. The most important thing Ogden highlights is that under Van Gaal training is about working with the ball not trying to get fitter. He says that but then starts talking about fear and control, which run totally contrary to what he says about Van Gaal sharing jokes with all the players from the superstars down. Ogden goes part the way towards saying Van Gaal is getting respect because his methods are making Man Utd better, but then he veers off course into the already established narrative about Van Gaal the dictator. He should've stuck with Van Gaal the professor. Its because the United players can see how Van Gaal's way will improve them as footballers that they're so bought into what he wants. Its because the United players could see how by not working with the ball their technique was getting dull in games that they gave up on Moyes.
 
This "United way" bollix needs to die a death. Right now!!

My father has been following United since 1956...He says the "United way" is the biggest load of bullshit going and he's right!

"Oh it's not the United way to sack managers. Moyes will be given time".......Really?
Agreed. The United Way first and foremost equates to success on a regular basis. If that means dumping our wingers - who have been terrible for a few years now - then so be it.
 
The 442 with fast wingers?

Yeah, I get that. I understand that completely....But you've seen the Giggsy documentary yes?

Giggs, P Nev, Scholes, Butt, all in a room discussing tactics....Clueless!!
"I like Valenica's pace"

And these were/are expected to carry on the "United way".....It makes me wonder what went on half the time

You have no idea of what happened before and after that isolated clip from that documentary. Using it to judge whether Giggsy has any tactical nous is ridiculous.
 
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