The fact the board picked his backroom staff says a lot...
Celtic Appoint Ronny Deila As New Manager
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The fact the board picked his backroom staff says a lot...
Of course they couldn't get a better manager then. Very unambitious from the board.
Somewhat but he makes some valid points. The rest of the Scottish teams in Europe are an absolute disaster. Was it Hibs who lost 7-0 at home to Malmo last season? Motherwell are out already, St Johnstone lost their first leg at home to some Slovakian/Slovenian team. Aberdeen have done well on fairness, good win over Gronigen but they drew Real Socieded so that's a wrap for them.
Why won't the board invest? They must have made a lot of money off player sales, fans and CL revenue in recent years.
I was surprised to see them sell Tony Watt, I thought he was highly regarded even if he did have an attitude problem.
Their strike force is Anthony Stokes, Griffthes and Pukki. They won't score much in Europe with those three.
I was surprised to see them sell Tony Watt, I thought he was highly regarded even if he did have an attitude problem.
Their strike force is Anthony Stokes, Griffthes and Pukki. They won't score much in Europe with those three.
Celtic have been the biggest disaster of all. How are the rest of the teams dragging them down when Celtic themselves just got dicked by some Polish side?
It's the board's fault. They will not invest.
And here's the big kicker. 99% of the population on this planet expect them to win the league this year. They won't! Aberdeen have crept up with Celtic, such has been their decline.
Nah, they will still win the league by a distance.
Serves them well for refusing to sell broadcast rights to a Polish TV. We actually could not see the second leg here.
Either could we.
Celtic will go through if that is true
Incredible....
I hope so, I always like to see Celtic doing well.
In the last round a Hungarian team did the same thing. They were just fined and went through regardless.
Indeed, they did extremely well to file a complaint demanding a walkover for a tie they lost 6-1. That's definition of a great performance, eh? You want them to do well? How about they actually try and do it on the pitch?
Bereszynski was sent off against Apollon last year, he was suspended for 3 games and Legia thought that suspension would still be running even if they didn't register him for St Patricks tie so they didn't. He didn't play against Celtic at home because that was supposed to be his 3rd game of suspension, they gave him less than 3 minutes yesterday. Now Celtic think Legia should have registered him for the St Patricks tie (and are right to be fair) and want a walkover (which is fecking ridiculous).
They will get a €15k fine and a slap on the wrist. Bereszyński did not influence the game in any way until mental Scots think they were scoring 6 in the final 3 minutes without him on the pitch. Clutching at straws at its best, they couldn't do half the job on the pitch.
I'd be embarrassed if we get another chance because of that. Happened a few year ago with Sion too, we're jammy bastards 
I'll take it though! Still reckon they'll get off with it.
As for the club, we have undoubtedly the stingiest board in European football. We've raked it in from CL money and selling our best players (which will continue in the next few days with Forster and probably van Dijk) yet we've not spent one penny on a player so far this season. Signed Craig Gordon on a free and he's not played competitive football in about 3-4 years ffs and signed some nobody on loan from Cardiff for a few months.
Lennon left because he knew what the budget was and the constant downsizing meant enough was enough. We nearly went out to Shakhter Karagandy (who?!) last season ffs. They bring in the new guy who talks a good game and wants to change the style of the team to a more positive, fast paced, attacking and high pressing outfit but they don't back him AT ALL financially and leave him to work with Lennon's squad which is a) absolute shit and b) can't play to the style that Deila wants. You bring in a guy on based on his vision and outlook then refuse to allow him to sign players to allow it to flourish. Stupidity.
If Aberdeen can be consistent against the rest of the shite in the league they'll run us close. Feck, Rangers would run us close just now.
I'll take it though! Still reckon they'll get off with it.As for the club, we have undoubtedly the stingiest board in European football. We've raked it in from CL money and selling our best players (which will continue in the next few days with Forster and probably van Dijk) yet we've not spent one penny on a player so far this season. Signed Craig Gordon on a free and he's not played competitive football in about 3-4 years ffs and signed some nobody on loan from Cardiff for a few months.
Lennon left because he knew what the budget was and the constant downsizing meant enough was enough. We nearly went out to Shakhter Karagandy (who?!) last season ffs. They bring in the new guy who talks a good game and wants to change the style of the team to a more positive, fast paced, attacking and high pressing outfit but they don't back him AT ALL financially and leave him to work with Lennon's squad which is a) absolute shit and b) can't play to the style that Deila wants. You bring in a guy on based on his vision and outlook then refuse to allow him to sign players to allow it to flourish. Stupidity.
If Aberdeen can be consistent against the rest of the shite in the league they'll run us close. Feck, Rangers would run us close just now.
I'd sympathise with Legia but rules are rules. It's not our fault. Which club in world football wouldn't capitalise on an illegal move (however small and irrelevant to the result) if it meant they had a chance of Champions League football and feck knows how much more revenue that comes with it.
Legia hammered us over both legs (thanks to our amateurish defending IMO) so it'd be really harsh for them. The guy clearly didn't influence the result, but like I say, rules are rules.
I assume all that happens then is we win Wednesday's game 3-0 rather than you being disqualified as such so it seems less harsh on the surface but obviously 3-0 takes us through.
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I fully understand how you would obviously like to capitalise on that, you cannot let €4m you can earn for being in EL group stages and €9m or so you get for CL pass you by.
They won't give you a walkover. A small fine and that is all. It was a simple error in documents, Legia didn't put his name against St Patricks on the list because they thought they didn't have to. It's not like they played a banned player knowingly, they thought 3 games have passed because they weren't aware they ought to have put him on the list (stupid by them but an honest mistake which is why UEFA have to let it slide).
Common sense would tell you that it's ridiculous if Celtic are sent through, it'd be an embarrassing situation for all parties.
They cheated. Celtic deserve to go through.
Refusing to sell? Sure that's true? Poznan didn't even sell theirs at all. There wasn't even a game possible to purchase for us.
Indeed. There is absolutely no way Legia were winning that tie without Bereszyński, those 3 minutes he came on for when they were 6-1 up were absolutely crucial. Those fecking Polish cheats thought they could get away with that. Celtic were just doing so well, working their socks off and outplaying Legia all over the pitch only for them to steal that away with their cheating.
Yes, TVP wanted to buy it but Celtic wouldn't sell unless for an obscene price because they feared Polish fans wouldn't attend the game in high numbers or something.
Lech v Stjarnan wasn't even broadcasted in Poland. It is very weird because we have usually seen all European games and this season we had 10 Europa League games played by Polish teams with none of them available on TV. Only Legia have been shown but not against Celtic in Edinburgh.
How is is cheating anyway? What possible gain was there? They did not field him against St Patricks because they knew he was unavailable. They didn't put his name in the squad because he was never going to play, no one took his place - they submitted shorter squad instead. They didn't play him in first leg against Celtic either because he was unavailable. Then they put him on for 3 minutes in a game they have already won because they genuinely thought they didn't have to register him for St Patricks tie and he was available already.
If they are thrown out of competition for that it's pretty clear it's just UEFA trying to squeeze Celtic through because they are a better brand to have there.
If they are thrown out of competition for that it's pretty clear it's just UEFA trying to squeeze Celtic through because they are a better brand to have there.
According to their own rules they can't issue a fine. If he was ineligible (signed but not registered) then they could punish with a fine but when the case is a suspended player then there's only one punishment.
No doubt about it, the crime doesn't merit the punishment. He hardly featured and his presence was irrelevant on the outcome. A fine would be the fairest punishment but there's no precedent for it.
They definitely didn't cheat.
Edit: apparently a UEFA spokesman has said that if found guilty then it'll be a 3-0 win and we go through on away goals. So it'll either be we go through or Legia have feck all to answer for, I guess.
Well if he'd been banned for this game then yes, they ought to have punished them with a walkover. However the main problem here is they might have not put his name on the list for St Patricks game - they didn't play him in that game or the first Celtic game which were three games he were banned for.
Apparently, according to a UEFA delegate all they will have to do is to prove that he was registered as Legia player during the previous round. I absolutely cannot see how they could throw a team out of competition for forgetting to do paperwork in a single game.
Hopefully it's not our fault. My station showed the KR-Celtic match and sold it to the BBC. The match was however at full capacity (albeit a much smaller venue but it still looks better when it's full). We didn't get to see the Celtic-KR match for similar reasons. Too expensive. We didn't even get to see Stjarnan-Lech because of unfortunate timing and poor management.
The main problem is them playing a suspended player. Not registering him isn't the offence, it's the feck up that lead to the offence. They'll know better next time.
He wasn't suspended for the game they played him in. He was for the games against St Patricks and first leg against Celtic. Actually at this point it isn't clear they have not put him on the list againt the Irish - it's Celtic who told UEFA they hadn't.
Nah, I think it's because no one wanted to broadcast Lech v Stjarnan here because of costs involved. Our TVs have gone somewhat crazy in savings on sports events, we are hosting volleyball World Cup in a month and it is one of the most popular disciplines here - no one's broadcasting it apart from Polsat who will put it on PPV so 90% people won't watch.
Well yes, that's the whole point. If they didn't register him, then they played a suspended player i.e. they cheated. If they registered him then there's no problem and it'll all be sorted very quickly.
Ah I hope they get through, it would be pretty funny as well
They wouldn't be throwing them out though. They'd have to forfeit this match 3-0, which, conveniently, is what we needed to win by to go through on away goals. If that guy had scored any of his pens in Poland this would all be irrelevant.
I don't think we told UEFA anything. According to a UEFA spokesman a UEFA delegate found out on Thursday morning and I've seen Polish sources on Twitter say that Legia themselves admitted it to UEFA (probably in hopes that they'd get off leniently by owning up to it)
If they didn't register him, they messed up their paperwork. And that's definitely not cheating, they have gained absolutely nothing.
Shouldn't Celtic be investigated to? For fielding a team of frauds?
I don't think it works like that. Otherwise having won the first leg 4-0 you could simply hand a walkover to the other team or field an ineligible player instead of playing the game that you might still lose 5-0.
I'd imagine that would come under match fixing, though. Which'll open another can of worms and a different page on the rule book.
That's a really good point though.
How do you prove Legia didn't deliberately do that after winning 5-1 in the first leg though? Impossible. However I imagine different punishment would be used if Celtic won 4-0 and progressed in that scenario.