That doesn't matter. You know it doesn't.
Celtic Appoint Ronny Deila As New Manager
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Of course it matters.
true.
For the record, I have always had a soft spot for Celtic and have attended some of their home matches.
But this is the worst Celtic team since that twat Macari was manager. Possibly even worse
They also registered 23 players for St Patricks game because they didn't have more. They had two open slots so Bereszynski was not replaced by anyone.
UEFA cannot really do anything other than call it an honest mistake and tell them not to forget it again.
UEFA cannot really do anything other than call it an honest mistake and tell them not to forget it again.
You want it to matter, but you know it doesn't. The rules are clear, as is the punishment for breaking the rules.
So he was left out of the squad for the game in question, then?
Having to register a player that you cannot play in a game is ridiculous by the way. Before today I'd have actually thought it'd be the other way around i.e. registering such player would be punishable.
I'd probably agree mate.
Apparently yes. I don't think it has been confirmed by Legia yet.
Why do they feel the need to invest? Whatever happens, they'll win the league. That's probably the board's thinking.
Celtic have stagnated. Need the competition to improve domestically.
Only punishable if he was registered then featured on the bench or even played any part of the match. It is definitely daft, I won't deny it.
The fact that they simply made a mistake in their paperwork as opposed to actually cheating by fielding a player in a game he isn't supposed to play in deliberately is meaningless?
Because we need to improve season upon season if we want CL revenue. Teams in England that get relegated probably get more money for that than we would do from TV in about 20 years
Aberdeen have closed the gap on them, as Celtic's decline has sped up. It's not guaranteed they'll win it. Trust me
Yeah.
Stupid as feck. I imagined you simply have not to play him while he's at your club. This is the issue UEFA apparently might have here - they cannot be sure he was at the club at the time so they cannot be sure that he completed his suspension because he were not on the list which would have been the evidence of him being a Legia player at the time. So long as they prove that he were they should be cleared according to what I have heard.
You haven't made a single slight but punishable mistake in your life that went unnoticed then, good for you fair man. Doesn't make a difference if you have murdered a human or went 2 kph over speed limit.
That may well be their argument tomorrow. We'll need to see how it goes.
I'd imagine he was a registered Legia player and was employed by the club. He was just not registered for their match v St. Pats.
Not quite sure where to begin with that analogy. Legia aren't going to be punished for an offence they didn't commit. Ignorance isn't an excuse.
Something's gotta give. You'd think it would be the return of Rangers, but the league is in dire shape. Holds no attraction to foreign stars, and even if Celtic were to attract good young talent, the board would simply sell them off after a few years for a profit.Because we need to improve season upon season if we want CL revenue. Teams in England that get relegated probably get more money for that than we would do from TV in about 20 years
They can (and should) enforce their own rules, whether he played for 3 minutes or the full 90 scoring a hattrick is irrelevant, they should be punished regardless of it appearing to be harsh or unfair
I don't care about Celtic or Legia.....but i think Celtic should go through.
I agree 100% with @20solskjaer 's last comment
Legia are lucky it's just Celtic.....Legia would be out of the CL already tonight if the club would be Arsenal, Schalke or Atletico Madrid
I agree 100% with @20solskjaer 's last comment
Legia are lucky it's just Celtic.....Legia would be out of the CL already tonight if the club would be Arsenal, Schalke or Atletico Madrid
Regarding Ronny Deila:
When reading through some of the posts at TalkCeltic.net, the general notion seems to be that the fault lies with the board and the players. Most people seem to not blame Ronny at all, because he's inherited a crap team which he's not been able to make "his" yet.
When reading through some of the posts at TalkCeltic.net, the general notion seems to be that the fault lies with the board and the players. Most people seem to not blame Ronny at all, because he's inherited a crap team which he's not been able to make "his" yet.
Celtic will still win the SPL no matter how bad they are, that's how bad the SPL is, the only way for him to get sacked is if they barely do it or fall to 2nd for a while or something.
You might have had a point if they fielded a player who was banned and hadn't completed his suspension. As things stand he did miss 3 European games and the only thing they did wrong here was not knowing they ought to have put him on the squad list against St Patricks. By not putting him on that list they gained no advantage whatsoever as they did not replace him with anyone in that squad.
Obviously if it were United and not Legia you'd also think they should be thrown out of competition for not knowing they should put a player on the list even if they don't intend to play him because he is suspended. FFS it's just a small paperwork error caused by misunderstanding of rules with absolutely no advantage whatsoever gained by Legia. Standards here are incredible when people are outraged by a Rio ban for missing the drug test, are consistently
annoyed with every slight decision that goes against us yet are branding Legia cheaters for not putting players name on the list because they didn't think they had to. How the feck have they cheated here, really? To what advantage?
It'll be utterly ridiculous if they throw a team out of competition because of something like this. I'd maybe slightly understand if Legia cunningly left him out against St Patricks so someone else could be in the squad. I'd absolutely understand if he were banned and didn't complete 3-match suspension and Legia played him knowing that. Under current circumstances the only reason why they might throw Legia out of competition for that would be because they can't have a small Polish team playing in the CL ahead of big mighty Celtic FC.
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Hopefully UEFA agrees with @Sarni. It's just reasonable.
And standards here are weird, that's for sure.
And standards here are weird, that's for sure.
It's an honest mistake, but at this level if you get punished for it then its nobody's fault but your own. We saw last season that M'Baye Niang of AC Milan couldn't play CL football because he wasn't registered. He didn't need to be because of his age, but he still had to be added to the roster.
Yes, it'd be unfortunate for the Polish side to be disqualified, and Celtic won't deserve it in the slightest, but rules are rules and if they start getting lenient with one case where does it stop?
Yes, it'd be unfortunate for the Polish side to be disqualified, and Celtic won't deserve it in the slightest, but rules are rules and if they start getting lenient with one case where does it stop?
I guess where someone actually commits a crime they benefit from.
There's some common sense in UEFA after all.
6-1 up on aggregate, 4 minutes of the tie left and they sub on an ineligible player... and they're out of Champions League - UEFA just made a decision.
Celtic lost 6-1, yet they go through
Celtic lost 6-1, yet they go through
Stupid from Legia but also ridiculous from UEFA IMO, they messed up the paperwork against St Patricks, that's all - you don't throw teams out of competition for that. Surely it's the first time ever?
Aye, there should be a Sensible Football Panel that has the ability to override the rules if it's patently obvious no real advantage was sought or gained
Lucky bastards
Hope they get pumped again.
Hope they get pumped again.
You bloody idiot.
Is this official so?
Morons
I don't care, it's ridiculous, it's a paperwork error for which they have lost the chance to make CL for the first time in 17 years.
They should go to CAS.
Sounds like Legia really had "no interest in fielding this player for the last few minutes, when the score was so clearly in its favour". It's really annoying and infuriating, even though I have no connection at all with Polish club.
Sounds like Legia really had "no interest in fielding this player for the last few minutes, when the score was so clearly in its favour". It's really annoying and infuriating, even though I have no connection at all with Polish club.
Imagine what I'm feeling right now. No Polish team in CL since 1997, finally a chance to make it, brilliant tie against Celtic and they're out because they messed up paperwork in the previous round. Never thought you could get anything more than a fine for something like that.