You'd probably get about 5 points in this group.
Champions League 2014/15
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You'd probably get about 5 points in this group.
Where's the fun in going out at the group stage?
Kinda torn between a group of great teams and a group with the easiest route possible. Just happy to be in it again to be honest, I'll take anyone.
@united_99, yeah third seeds as Barney said. Full seeds are:
@united_99, yeah third seeds as Barney said. Full seeds are:
I'll be supporting you in that hope.
Always find it mental how people hope for tough draws. Don't know whether it's posturing but not wanting to maximise your chances of progressing in the competition I can't comprehend.
Thanks! Amazing how Atletico are already 1st seeds and City with all the money spent still 2nd.Kinda torn between a group of great teams and a group with the easiest route possible. Just happy to be in it again to be honest, I'll take anyone.
@united_99, yeah third seeds as Barney said. Full seeds are:
Anyway, can't say good luck to you guys, but enjoy. Fully deserved based on last season's performances.
When are the actual dates for fixtures released? I'm in Paris early November and hoping it coincides with a home game.
Europa League performances.
I think it's silly to want great teams in the group stage, the games are often quite boring. It's often in the knock out stages that the games get really exciting, I think it's better to get out of the group and then have prestigious games!Kinda torn between a group of great teams and a group with the easiest route possible. Just happy to be in it again to be honest, I'll take anyone.
@united_99, yeah third seeds as Barney said. Full seeds are:
Dortmund's groups in the last two years were excellent entertainment.
Probably true actually, you've convinced me
ctp makes a point though, there's always the odd group with exciting games. But I still feel the real excitement comes in the knock outs, with some real nail biting games.
Well that and the CL run last season surely?
And City were also in the EL in 2011/12 but apparently didn't take it seriously.
Yeah both. CL runner up and 2 Europa League trophies since 2009/10 (though I'm not 100% sure if that first EL win is still considered). Shows the value of the Europa League though, it's probably why the two Portuguese sides are also 1st seeds.
Think the seeding is for the last 5 years.
Yep. Benfica reached two finals in a row, and also has a semi-final from 2010/11 counting. Porto has 2010/11 victory and a few extra points holding us there. Unless Porto does amazing this year we'll lose 1st seed next year (I think it's our 3rd or 4th year in a row there), Benfica should stay there for quite a while.
It's about the only thing UEFA can do to keep the competition prestigious, hence it "pays" in points nearly as much as the CL.
The champions league qualification from winning it should also help it maintain high standards.
Yeah was going to say that too, good move to give it a qualification place in my view.
It does really hurt not to see our name in the draw.
feck. We need top 4 this season.
feck. We need top 4 this season.
Group of death:-
Real Madrid
Juventus
Liverpool
Monaco
Real Madrid
Juventus
Liverpool
Monaco
Yep, they're a very good side who gave it max. We won't have a harder test in the group stage (and didn't need 4 tough games in 2 weeks while everybody else as had 2 and players are coming back from the World Cup)
Roma over Monaco for sure. Then probably PSG instead of Juve.
Agree. Bayern or Barca instead of Real can work as well.
Is this a screen grab from TV or just something someone made for the net? That "O" in front of Porto really bugs me.Kinda torn between a group of great teams and a group with the easiest route possible. Just happy to be in it again to be honest, I'll take anyone.
@united_99, yeah third seeds as Barney said. Full seeds are:
I lifted it from twitter but looks like a screen grab...
I fecking hate that Anglicism. It would be like reading "Themanchester" or "Lamadrid" when referring to those cities.
Looking at this table United are going to drop like a rock down the rankings next year from losing the 36k points and getting none in return, that's if we even make it in which is far from a given of course.
Is it on purpose? I thought it was a typo.
You don't get zero points for not playing in Europe. About 10k will do it which a drop of about 3-4 places probably.
No Europa league sure looks swell now, doesn't it?
I'm still happy we aren't in the EL.....so players like Anderson, Fellaini, Cleverley, Fletcher and and and can leave us
Then next year we can buy squad players like for example Blind
Just done a mock draw (which I hope followed all of the right rules) and ended up with this:
Group A: Atletico Madrid, Zenit Saint Petersburg, Olympiacos, APOEL
Group B: Benfica, Manchester City, Atheltic Bilbao, Anderlecht
Group C: Porto, Juventus, Bayer Leverkusen, Monaco
Group D: Chelsea, Borussia Dortmund, Galatasaray, Maribor
Group E: Arsenal, Schalke 04, Sporting CP, Ludogorets Razgrad
Group F: Real Madrid, Shakthar Donetsk, Ajax, Malmo FF
Group G: Bayern Munich, PSG, Liverpool, BATE Borisov
Group H: Barcelona, Basel, CSKA Moscow, AS Roma
I'd laugh my head off if Liverpool actually got a group like that.
Group A: Atletico Madrid, Zenit Saint Petersburg, Olympiacos, APOEL
Group B: Benfica, Manchester City, Atheltic Bilbao, Anderlecht
Group C: Porto, Juventus, Bayer Leverkusen, Monaco
Group D: Chelsea, Borussia Dortmund, Galatasaray, Maribor
Group E: Arsenal, Schalke 04, Sporting CP, Ludogorets Razgrad
Group F: Real Madrid, Shakthar Donetsk, Ajax, Malmo FF
Group G: Bayern Munich, PSG, Liverpool, BATE Borisov
Group H: Barcelona, Basel, CSKA Moscow, AS Roma
I'd laugh my head off if Liverpool actually got a group like that.
Because the games are much more fun. You'd rather watch United vs Bate over United vs Dortmund?
Real Madrid/Barcelona, Juventus, Liverpool, Monaco.
I can't believe this! Malmö FF in the Champions League!
What a game! One of the best atmospheres I've seen at a live football game. It was better than any United game I've been to. I can barely talk today due to the singing and screaming from yesterday.
I get CL football this year after all!
Hoping for
Real
PSG
Liverpool
Malmö
GET IN!!!
What a game! One of the best atmospheres I've seen at a live football game. It was better than any United game I've been to. I can barely talk today due to the singing and screaming from yesterday.
I get CL football this year after all!
Hoping for
Real
PSG
Liverpool
Malmö
GET IN!!!
We'll still have 36 points next season though because they count 5 previous seasons. The list above will be for next year although some teams will gain points so we might not be in pot 1.
What time is the draw?
17:45 CET, so I guess 16:45 for the British people.
The 'show' starts at 16:45. Who knows when the actual draw starts. I'm pretty sure we have to hear endless stupid speaches first, watch a few highlight films and then there's also the UEFA player of the year award with the vote and the presentation of the winner during the show.
Also team of the year with obligatory John Terry and 6 Barcelona players in it.