There's no way he's a United fan.
RAWK Goes into Meltdown 2014/2015 - The "We go again" Edition
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Very well said and seconded. It is just a game after all. Surely most people on here could tell a lot worse stories than a bunch of grown men kicking a ball around a field for 90 minutes and losing. I love our rivalries. It is what makes it so much fun. If we won every year as easily as Munich then I could never watch. As it is the BPL is the most competitive and entertaining league in the world. Love your team and cheer them on, but never sing songs about death and tragedy surrounding the opposition club, when we have much around our beloved United as well.
PhaseOfPlay has written about the game:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=320489.0
Enjoy!
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=320489.0
Enjoy!
Not RAWK, but an alternative take on Gerrard's sending off. That's some superlative writing to be fair.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blog...relentless--vile-fans-to-blame-144508508.html
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blog...relentless--vile-fans-to-blame-144508508.html
The first two paragraphs are about the flipping La's for Christ's sake!
So basically, Rodgers is a stubborn fool that refuses to change anything unless absolutely necessary, and only his vision of the game is the correct vision of the game, but we'll never actually know that because he's not got the time/money/players/wife/property to do so.
As for the question he poses about whether Rodgers will 'compromise' in the future. I'd hazard a guess at no, given that he basically has one way of playing and attempts it all of the time.
Got bored after the first paragraph, tl;dr. Skimmed over it, The La's were shit from memory, so were Cast.
Without bothering too much about the twaddle... I can tell you that the hooligan years constituted a good reason not to go to football games for very many people, and even a good reason to concentrate on other areas of life. Worrying about justified insults being hurled comes low on the scale.
Jeez, lasted one paragraph, just because was intrigued at what next this non scouter would come out with.
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R : Van Gaal doesn't have a vision, he can continue to make adjustments. Rodgers has a vision and he doesn't change his vision for anybody. Except when Liverpool got beat 3-0 at Old Trafford last time. This time, though, Rodgers is a footballing purist who won't make the adjustment. He can, but he won't. Because he's Eden Hazard's dad.PhaseofPlay is an uber dipper, heavy on rhetoric and verbage and complete and utter twaddle.
I'm insulted for football fans and musicians.
Reads like an audition to be Johnny Nicholson's (of F365) understudy. Yawn.
They were singing "justice for the 39" to the same tune Liverpool fan sing "justice for the 96", so even if you wanna try and justify "reminding" scousers of their role in Heysel, I don't believe for a second that song isn't also baiting them about Hillsborough.
Skimmed through but did not one single person on there question the idiocy of it?
He describes what happened well enough but his rationale for why is no different than the rest
He describes what happened well enough but his rationale for why is no different than the rest
You cannot seriously believe that "justice for the 39" is sang for any reason other than to get a rise out of Liverpool fans by using the tragic deaths of 39 fans of another club entirely as bait?
If United fans were truly passionate about justice being served for the 39 that lost their lives at Heysel, they'd be doing a lot more than chanting about it for two games a season. The fact that it's sung to the same tune as Liverpool's very justified "Justice for the 96" chant just further drives home that it's nothing more than incredibly distasteful points scoring.
As far as I'm aware, no fans of other clubs, not even Everton, chant it to them. "Justice for the 39" and other Heysel chants are a horrible stain on a bitter rivalry, and belong in the same category as references to the Munich Air Disaster and the Hillsborough Disaster, and to claim otherwise is to do nothing more than find excuses for behaving in a vile manner.
I agree with not singing it as I have said before. But do not re-invent history, the song was never about Hillsborough. It was sung long before that.
I'm not saying originally it wasn't about Hillsborough, nor is it now but there's tangible reason to believe a lot of our fans sing it now purely because they know the scousers and the media and everyone else associate it with Hillsborough and not Heysel and it winds them up no end. It'll forever be linked with it and both tragedies are linked by the fact Liverpool fans were involved and that won't ever change.
Because of that our paltry excuses of saying 'it's not about Hillsborough' will never wash and we haven't got a leg to stand on anyway because we're singing it for feck all reason and we shouldn't be.
Besides, how did we sing it before Hillsborough? 'Without killing anyone, we won it once'...?
Never heard that sang until post Liverpool singing 'we won it 5 times'. But even then, when singing we won it 3 times ... etc it is obvious United fans were singing about CL and Europe, not Hillsborough.
Anyway, I think we are all in agreement that United fans should not sing glorifying the deaths of anyone. We are a lot better than that.
That has to be a piss take.
It is. It's a spoof article.
Aye, it was the coin toss that won it for us.Especially since I seem to remember that they usually choose to attack towards the Kop in the second half anyway (which the commentators are very happy to point out).
We've long since known they won't let facts get in the way of excuses.
Exactly!!!!!
Jeez. What an incredibly sad character he is. Why do they do this? He knows hes not a United fan, they know it, and we know it. Isn't there another guy there (or is it the same?) who is supposedly a "united fan" but has Busby or something as an avatar?Not RAWK, but...
Not RAWK, but...
They saw him swing it in to Mata.
His avatar is Shankly. Someone here said he claims he doesn't know how to change it.
I think most fans feel like that, but there always seems to be an element of "fans" who like to see it as something else. Sadly there are a lot of blokes (and it is always men) who seem to identify with their club as some kind of gang. Lads involved in the old football firms years ago were a lot of the time just blokes who enjoyed a fight and a lot weren't even that interested in the football - it was just an excuse to go out for the day, get drunk and batter someone about the head.
I watched a documentary the other week about the extreme right gruops that have popped up. A lot of those involed were ex-hooligans. Nonoe of them could articulate why they held these policitcal views, but they loved a scrap.
Getting back to the point, It shocks me that there are still people who think this kind of behavior is acceptable, let alone people who would try and justify it after the event and seem to be happy to be involved. Its sad and they're not people I'd want to be identified with as a United fan.
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So because singing about victims of various tradgedies is not as bad as what we had in the 70's that makes it alright? Sorry, that makes no sense to me.
Your arguments were predicated on people having the right to "free speech" when in reality all it amounts to is numerous idiots signing about the deaths of fellow human beings (and fellow football fans) simply to get a rise out of another set of idiots doing the same thing in the opposite stand.
That's where we're at here - the "twaddle" is trying to dress it up as some kind of quest for justice by one set of fans seeking to remind another of their "guilt".
We need our own Phase of Play. So I can stop thinking about what I write and just zombie-type in "Smashing read, that. *Smileyface* "as replies.
I'm convinced that Jonno is either Steve J or Brophs on a WUM. Actually, he sounds more like Noodlehair, he doesn't have anything good to say about United either.
I wan't sure if it was or not. Which says a bit about the media love-in of Gerrard and Liverpool fans in general.
He tried to tweak the banner that the United fan from India had carried..Not RAWK, but...
Why do they feel the need to such huge amounts of drivel?
You dont need 2 pages of overly wordy tripe to say what he wanted to say.
Can you imagine what an editor would say if that was handed in as an actual peice of work?
I mean I like to waffle, but Jesus.