The two world record signings, atrocious
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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The two world record signings, atrocious
I don't think his team-mates ever trusted him. Much like when Owen was there (and scoring goals) they're very reluctant to pass him the ball because they know he's technically lightyears behind many of his team-mates. Must be very difficult to play your natural game in that kind of situation.
Wow thats a huge amount of money
One of the comments in that article says that it is the same amount of money as the british government has given. Not bad ronaldo...
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His all round game really seems to have regressed as the price of his ridiculous output. Minus the goals, he is probably closer to the much criticised Bale than he is to Hazard. That said, they are all attacking players and goals are what they are judged by, so credit to him. I can't say I derive much pleasure from watching Ronaldo play as a neutral. There are at least two of his teammates that are more enjoyable to watch.
People would be praising him for ever though if he had the exact same performance as today but scores one of his trademark tap ins. He has sacrificed everything for goals to keep up with Messi, his team is paying the price for it because they needed someone to step up today and carry their team to victory and he couldn't do it because his impact on the pitch is minimal.
He only gets noticed when he scores, it's not like his goals are solo efforts a lot of them are fairly straight forward goals and he gets way too much praise for poor performances but they just look good because he scored.
Indeed. I find any attempt to compare him to that other guy ridiculous. He has great stats, but it is clear that he prioritises those stats above all, and is breaking his neck to keep up with a man who just simply enjoying his football.
Messi is clearly the People's Champ.
To be fair, there were plenty of articles sometime back about how Messi was the same with stats, etc. and how he belittled his teammates when he wasn't passed to.
He doesn't appear an arrogant prick the way Ronaldo does, so all of that is forgotten.
Class act, and it's hardly an isolated incident. CR7 does a hell of a lot of charitable work.
**Ronaldo Haters, Read This Story**
Driving home from training one day, Ronaldo saw a group of older kids bullying another younger kid, simply because he was not wearing a Real Madrid shirt.
Ronaldo stopped his car, walked over to the shocked group of children, crouched down beside the younger kid, and punched him square in the face. The older boys cheered and Ronaldo shouted ‘HALA
Credit to Benchwarmers on FB.
Driving home from training one day, Ronaldo saw a group of older kids bullying another younger kid, simply because he was not wearing a Real Madrid shirt.
Ronaldo stopped his car, walked over to the shocked group of children, crouched down beside the younger kid, and punched him square in the face. The older boys cheered and Ronaldo shouted ‘HALA
Credit to Benchwarmers on FB.
Needs a new challenge. Well, an old one revisited...
LOL, you guys believe these stories? I don't. I think Ronaldo is a gifted, world class footballer, but he is no saint. He is a selfish kid. Always has been and when he is 85, he will still be a selfish, immature child.
Had a look at some reddit comments about that video and apparently the kids Portuguese was actually good and had all the proper pronunciations so Ronaldo was being serious when he said it was good. Very rude crowd.
Fantasic stuff. You can say what you want about how he acts on the pitch, but this is the stuff that counts if you want to judge the man.
You actually sound like an immature child right now.
He was speaking Spanish.
Really? I took it from here that it was Portuguese
https://m.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/34yhf6/ronaldo_defends_japanese_kid_attempting_portuguese/
It was spanish, mate. Unless all the spanish words he said are the same in portuguese, which I doubt.
Edit - Acually scrap that. Just listened to it again on full volume and it was indeed portuguese. He starts with boa tarde and in spanish it's buenas tardes. Forgive me little japanese boy, it wasn't your pronunciation or anything.
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Huh? Didn't Ronaldo say in the video "he is talking good Portuguese"? Or did I misheard it?
Yeah, edited my post. I thought he was trying to speak spanish as most of the words he said were exactly the same in spanish. But it was definately portuguese.
To be fair my assessment comes from watching both play. Messi just seems far more at ease sharing the ball, and the goals with his teammates. He puts up ridiculous numbers, but the impression is that he is just trying to help the team as opposed to himself. He will always choose a team mate in a better position.
So what happened was he didn't get the service? All his team mates know that if they serve it up, he won't let them down. The mark of a striker is right place right time and he's got that down to a fine art.
I doubt anyone would be criticising Falcao if he was getting proper service and had scored 30 tap-ins for us this season.
Falcao isn't supposed to be the 2nd best player in the world though. Cristiano needs to stop being so reliant on service, his overall game has regressed quite a lot lately and it's not helping the team.
I don't think you can compare them or their treatment. Falcao was one of the best centre forwards in the game for a few years. Ronaldo is among the best footballers of his generation and one of the greats of the game. They can't be judged by the same yardstick and one is miles better than the other.
I think you missed my point.
Ronaldo is supposed to be one of the greatest players ever and people are calling him better than Zidane and Messi.
How the hell can you be better than both of those players when you need your team mates to set you up for goals?
The great players win matches on their own and drag their team to victory Ronaldo simply doesn't do it because he only cares about scoring goals by being in the right place at the right time.
Great players win matches on their own when their team is running out of ideas.
Ronaldo is not a great player he is just a great goal scorer.
That's not wrong. That's stupid.
And Buffon isn't a great keeper, he is just a great shot saver.
His whole contribution over 90 minutes against Juve was 1 tap in, didn't take on any players, didn't create space for his team mates, didn't set anyone up. Instead he just goal hanged all game and was invisible for the whole match.
I'm sorry but to me thats not what great players do, great players come up with something out nothing when their teams needs them to step up. He is hardly ever noticed on the pitch but hey he scored a simple tap in he must be this amazing great player. Great players dont hide and wait for opportunities they make opportunities for their team to win the game.
'Service - constant supply of the ball unmarked in front of goal.'
I don't really like the service argument, and it certainly doesn't apply to wide men who are meant to have more about their game. Was Messi's first goal against Bayern a result of great service by Alves? No, Alves just passed the ball to his team's star player in a not too threatening situation and he delivered for them. Of course, Ronaldo has done similarly before, but that is the standard for his kind of player.
That's a terrible argument. There have been games in which Messi's been crap. Take for instance last season, the second leg against Atletico in the CL. Utterly rubbish performance by Messi. Sometimes even the best players are not in form or have a bad day at the office. Only a week ago Ronaldo scored 3 goals in a 3:2 win against a team that is quite good and hadn't lost at its ground for many games. He has scored decisive goals many, many, many times. Only the greatest forwards have achieved similar things. Besides, he's got probably more assists than any other forward in Europe this season bar Messi. But he's just a goalscorer.
Football is a game of goals and being able to decide games by scoring goals is incredibly important. If you can beat defenders at will but cannot finish the chances, then you are not as good as someone who knows how to put the ball in the back of the net. Ronaldo is the only player in the history of the game to score 50 + goals in 5 seasons and you come up with the claim that he is not a great player, as if football is a game of something else and not a game of goals.
Football is more than just statistics though. I wont need to tell my kids/grand kids about Messi's statistics to explain how great he is/was. With Ronaldo it's all about stats.
Surely, but statistics could tell you a lot. They are about cold facts, not about interpretations. If Messi was scoring only 20 goals per season, no one would have consdered him a GOAT.
Why not? Maradona often didn't score more than 20 goals in a season.
That says more about you than it does about Ronaldo. Flawless first touch, explosive strike, great pace, incredible leap, flair and an exceptional appreciation for space and sniffing out the goal. They're all qualities that set him apart from players in this generation and earn comparison with past generations. He's at least a level below Messi but he's still an exceptional player by any definition.
i think Ronaldo is one hell of a player, i also think he is not in the same league as messi
but you dont have to be up there to be one of the best players in the world
but what i dislike about Ronaldo is that he celebrates his tap ins goals as he had discovered the cure for cancer but at the same time he celebrates his team mates goals like nothing has happened, doesnt celebrate or gets mad because a team mate scored
but you dont have to be up there to be one of the best players in the world
but what i dislike about Ronaldo is that he celebrates his tap ins goals as he had discovered the cure for cancer but at the same time he celebrates his team mates goals like nothing has happened, doesnt celebrate or gets mad because a team mate scored
I agree stats are important, but the only stat people look at these days is goals. There is more to being a great player than just goals. Ronaldo doesn't influence games like some of the great players i have watched and i just personally think he is over rated if i'm comparing him to passed greats of the game.
He is a great goal scorer but i think for people to say he's up there with Maradonna, Messi and Zidane just to name a few is wrong because those players had the magic touch and were able to win games out of no where for their team. This Ronaldo that we are seeing now doesn't do that, he is a very efficient goal scorer but imo you have to be able to drag your team to victory like those players did so often without relying on your team mates to have a good game for you to shine.
Because Maradona did it for Napoli and in a much more defensively minded era. Nowadays forwards, particularly those at the best teams, score more. Maradona would easily score 30 + for the current team of Barcelona.
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