Manchester City as a 'world power'

The other day was the first time I saw a random Portuguese guy on the street with a City shirt. I was even tempted to post about it here, as some sort of symptom of a new age, half-joking of course. They are still quit largely ignored, football fans know of their existence but few seem to care. They're in about the same tier as PSG, more feared than respected or well-known.

Chelsea is way past that phase, there were a few sympathizers (I remember some "fans" - followers - in my school from the Zola days) back then, and they have increased a lot in noteworthiness these days. My brother aged 16 is a Chelsea fan, and wouldn't distinguish them in status from other European greats such as United or Real. Portugal isn't representative in that regard though, as Mourinho and the Portuguese brigade are heavily associated with the club.
 
But it's a very residual percentage. Kinda like those clowns from the Real Madrid peña from Lisbon. Portugal is nothing like Scandinavia (for example, with most having an english football club they root for) and it's mostly national football market oriented. In Lisbon you very rarely see someone casualy wearing spanish or english club shirts. My biggest criticism would be the fact that 85 to 90% of football fans support one of the big three clubs, with the rare exceptions of the locally supported Guimarães, Académica and Braga (lately). It's a cultural thing and the market isn't big enough for more clubs i suppose.
 
Is it just me or do people care a lot less about City this season?

It's not a stab at our rivals but I just noticed they were playing and I honestly haven't heard a thing about any of their games since we battered them and went above them on the table, after a quick check they're effectively 5 points ahead of us and I didn't even hear or see an article about them over taking us. The only recent news I've heard at all was Toure is off in the summer.

I know they were never popular and no one really cared when they won the league anyway but its like the newspapers aren't even trying :lol:

Maybe its just me though...
 
Is it just me or do people care a lot less about City this season?

It's not a stab at our rivals but I just noticed they were playing and I honestly haven't heard a thing about any of their games since we battered them and went above them on the table, after a quick check they're effectively 5 points ahead of us and I didn't even hear or see an article about them over taking us. The only recent news I've heard at all was Toure is off in the summer.

I know they were never popular and no one really cared when they won the league anyway but its like the newspapers aren't even trying :lol:

Maybe its just me though...
Average in Europe, average in the League, no great signings.
 
I can't understand why he signed another contract there to be honest. He deserves to be winning the CL and I very much doubt City will do that within his peak, which he committed to them with his latest contract.
 
Plenty of city fans in South Africa. More than Tottenham fans but less than the big 4: man utd Liverpool Chelsea arsenal
 
Is it just me or do people care a lot less about City this season?

It's not a stab at our rivals but I just noticed they were playing and I honestly haven't heard a thing about any of their games since we battered them and went above them on the table, after a quick check they're effectively 5 points ahead of us and I didn't even hear or see an article about them over taking us. The only recent news I've heard at all was Toure is off in the summer.

I know they were never popular and no one really cared when they won the league anyway but its like the newspapers aren't even trying :lol:

Maybe its just me though...
Last season it was mostly United or liverpool talk and this season it still has been mostly Us, Chelsea in the media.

They dont have any real point of difference compared to other clubs.
 
Is it just me or do people care a lot less about City this season?

It's not a stab at our rivals but I just noticed they were playing and I honestly haven't heard a thing about any of their games since we battered them and went above them on the table, after a quick check they're effectively 5 points ahead of us and I didn't even hear or see an article about them over taking us. The only recent news I've heard at all was Toure is off in the summer.

I know they were never popular and no one really cared when they won the league anyway but its like the newspapers aren't even trying :lol:

Maybe its just me though...
The initial 'noisy neighbours' buzz has truly died. they have nothing worth caring about, to be honest.
That's why they need Guardiola or Klopp this summer. To at least have a manager worth talking about, and to create a new buzz.
 
In terms of status, they're absolutely nowhere near that of United and its ilk. When you tell somebody you're from Manchester (not quite, but close enough and it saves you having to explain the actual location), you're never left under the impression that City have come even close to achieving that. Fans with a basic knowledge of football will tease you with the 'United or City?' question, but that's about as far as it goes. They're widely perceived to be the second team of Manchester, although I suppose that's progress when you consider that we're still just 'Manchester' in the eyes of many football fans. City fans can dismiss that and try to convince themselves otherwise, but it does little to affect the reality.
 
Is it just me or do people care a lot less about City this season?

It's not a stab at our rivals but I just noticed they were playing and I honestly haven't heard a thing about any of their games since we battered them and went above them on the table, after a quick check they're effectively 5 points ahead of us and I didn't even hear or see an article about them over taking us. The only recent news I've heard at all was Toure is off in the summer.

I know they were never popular and no one really cared when they won the league anyway but its like the newspapers aren't even trying :lol:

Maybe its just me though...

Our games after the derby: West Ham (H), Villa (H), Spurs (A), QPR (H). Unless we lost them, the press is hardly going to report on them with any enthusiasm.
 
Although I'm a red I do think Aguerro is a great player. He's almost destroying QPR singlehanded. We need that kind of striker.

You clearly didn't see Falcao's masterclass 2nd half performance against Palace yesterday!

But yes, we do. Desperately.

If Guardiola ends up at City our board will have failed.

Mourinho at Chelsea and Guardiola at City would be a ludicrous situation for us to've allowed to happen.
 
You clearly didn't see Falcao's masterclass 2nd half performance against Palace yesterday!

But yes, we do. Desperately.

If Guardiola ends up at City our board will have failed.

Mourinho at Chelsea and Guardiola at City would be a ludicrous situation for us to've allowed to happen.
Meh... We'll see how great a managere he really is.
 
We only won our first Premier League title in 2012 and have yet to even make it to the QF of the CL. It will take a few more years before we start to amass a respectable global fanbase.
It ain't going to happen.

City may be successful over the coming years, certainly not a certainty, but very few new football fans are going to pick up on City with the marketing clout of the big boys.

Let's face it hardly anyone remembers you won the PL last year, they do remember Liverpool/ Gerrard slipping.

You will be a financial power, but FFP is probably going to pretty much even things up.
 
It ain't going to happen.

City may be successful over the coming years, certainly not a certainty, but very few new football fans are going to pick up on City with the marketing clout of the big boys.

Let's face it hardly anyone remembers you won the PL last year, they do remember Liverpool/ Gerrard slipping.

You will be a financial power, but FFP is probably going to pretty much even things up.

If City continue to be successful domestically and increase our performances in Europe of course our fanbase will grow. It might take time but it's inevitable that a successful English side would attract fans on a global scale.
 
Here when someone says Manchester it still usually means United. Im not saying it wont change but for now they're insignificant. They have more fans in Bosnia cause of Dzeko.
 
If City continue to be successful domestically and increase our performances in Europe of course our fanbase will grow. It might take time but it's inevitable that a successful English side would attract fans on a global scale.
I think you may be a bit optimistic there.

Now I have moved to the States, I can pretty much watch United at will, pretty sure it is the same all round the world. Chelsea have a bit of a TV audience as well, not seen much of Liverpool or Arsenal. But we saw Liverpool in Australia and they had a big following. The latino's are only interested in the Spanish and Portuguese teams, Italian-Americans the Italian teams and so on. Be very hard for a fairly new boy, as far as success is concerned, to break that strangle hold here. You will probably do well in Abu Dhabi and Dubai.

I also think City misplayed their advantage when they got their sugar daddy. Too a large extent they followed Chelsea's initial tactic of spend heavy for early success. They have invested well in their infrastructure around Eastlands, but really should have read the consequences of FFP better. Chelsea, now buy lots of potential, farm them out and when they don't produce they get big profits. City haven't done that, always looking for the established end product. I think due to the age of your squad now (Yaya, Kompany, Milner and so on) you will have a similar re-building exercise as United have had to do. You probably don't have the income to do it at the rate that United can. So your success may be limited, more likely that the top 4 or 5 in PL will change places over the coming years, rather than any one team dominating. so that will hamper City's appeal.
 
For too long City supporters have been bitterly obsessed with Uniteds wordwide following, instantly dismssing them as 'glory-hunters'. Now, in an ironic twist of events, any self-aware City fan not born within a mile of moss side knows they will have that same 'glory-hunter' tag written across their forehead the minute they show their (newly found) colours.
 
The initial 'noisy neighbours' buzz has truly died. they have nothing worth caring about, to be honest.
That's why they need Guardiola or Klopp this summer. To at least have a manager worth talking about, and to create a new buzz.

!st, 2nd, 1st, (3rd? or 2nd).

"they have nothing worth caring about".

And you call us bitter?
 
People will always care about Liverpool and United games because alot of people care about those clubs (even if we/they don't like them). The average fan doesn't care about City games because they don't care about the club. People care about the title so when they're in contention, we'll pay attention.

Ironically, when they started to do better over the last few weeks, there seemed to be less attention given to them because them finishing 2nd or 3rd is irrelevant to most people. Them finishing 5th is interesting.
 
I don't know how many fans had Chelsea before Abramovich,at least I only knew Zola and Poyet.However now is 5th?4th? in followers in social media.It seems that with the time they are getting a stable amount of fans and increasing its own legend thanks to the players that have played there as the titles they got in recent years.Probably in some years people will forget about the origin of all this,a rich man who invested a lot.Maybe City fan base is not so important yet but I don't see any reason why they can't become a powerful club in some years
 
2015 Manchester City are a paradoxical reminder that football at its soul depends entirely on the fans. It's City's fans who have no coherent identity. Double their home crowds and they'd be an international newsworthy force. But in an era where there is a glut of giants, thanks to petro-billionaire individuals and states, they're just the second team out of Manchester. There's no room for them.
 
City doesn't have a dedicated presence. But it does have it's share of glory hunters and 'football' fans who claim to enjoy football (read winning) more than any particular club. After their PL win, I found a lot of people with City shirts but seems to have dropped back to near zero nowadays.
 
I don't know how many fans had Chelsea before Abramovich,at least I only knew Zola and Poyet.However now is 5th?4th? in followers in social media.It seems that with the time they are getting a stable amount of fans and increasing its own legend thanks to the players that have played there as the titles they got in recent years.Probably in some years people will forget about the origin of all this,a rich man who invested a lot.Maybe City fan base is not so important yet but I don't see any reason why they can't become a powerful club in some years
Meeting Barca in an emptyhad:rolleyes:
 
A girl I talked to on Sunday never heard of Manchester City but knew about Chelsea and Liverpool (who were playing each other at the time). Make of that what you will.
 
A girl I talked to on Sunday never heard of Manchester City but knew about Chelsea and Liverpool (who were playing each other at the time). Make of that what you will.

Since a (not) random sample of 1, is hardly statistically significant, we should make of it precisely nothing whatsoever.
 
A thread perhaps targeted towards foreign fans, or well traveled fans.

I'm just wondering how large is their status now? When I think of huge clubs I think United, Milan, Juventus, Madrid, Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool even.

I feel now, after 12 years of Roman's money Chelsea is named with the elite. What about City? Yes their squad at the moment is up there with the best, no doubt about it. But are they considered an elite, prestigious club? Or are they thought of how I think of PSG, which is a new money club with no history.

Well in Italy they are known as Mancini's former team. To be fair mentioning Liverpool in Turin or Rome can get a bit stressy.
 
I kind of remember Ronetta having this discussion about how it's proven that City matters for most people.. I also remember that it did not end very well :D
 
I kind of remember Ronetta having this discussion about how it's proven that City matters for most people.. I also remember that it did not end very well :D

I agree it reflected badly on the forum, demonstrating many if not most posters to be thick as pig shit.
 
Nobody over here has heard of them. A yank at work was surprised when I said Manchester has 2 teams.
 
I see that their new City 'franchises' in New York and Melbourne are not doing very well so far...
 
I agree it reflected badly on the forum, demonstrating many if not most posters to be thick as pig shit.
I am amazed you are still allowed to post here after constantly insulting United fans on a United forum.