are you sure? then how much would be the offer? something like 10m + De Gea?
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De Gea's not worth £25 million though, he's a keeper with a year left on his contract, who Madrid can get to sign a pre-contract for nothing in just 6 months. We'd do well to get £20 million for him at an absolute stretch. RVP/Kroos, in the same situation, went for £24/£20 mil respectively, and they are outfield players who command a hell of a lot more then keepers.
Yep something like that.
Do you understand that one is contracted the other won't be very soon.
The information separates the amounts 75+ de Gea and 55 to the player. 10+ de Gea is very poor in my opinion although the other is great
The information separates the amounts 75+ de Gea and 55 to the player. 10+ de Gea is very poor in my opinion although the other is great
10m + DDG is more than a good deal considering the age of both players. Not bothered if DDG has 1 year left on his deal we don't need to sell and letting him run his contract out means Barca could come looking for him next summer.
If United talked and agreed terms with Ramos months ago and they did the offer now...then they acted in the back of the club...very naughty club, that kind of dirty tactics are only used for despicable clubs as Madrid
10m + De Gea would be a great deal for all concerned really.
I doubt it'll be that easy.
I doubt it'll be that easy.
Next to Smalling, that would be a good partnership with a strong tackler and a good ball playing defender, Smalling will improve playing next to someone with experience
Even if we don't get him, I'm glad Woody didn't meekly let out goalie leave w/o causing some trouble at Madrid.
Because assists is not the only measure of a player.
Two years left in contract ? Sounds realistic and shouldn't be that super expensive. Nothing will surprise me after signing Arsenal's captain and Di Maria's decision to leave Spain for United.
I can only hope this deal won't steer us away from Otamendi or Hummels. We need to build a spine with best possible depth to challenge top CL firms again.
I can only hope this deal won't steer us away from Otamendi or Hummels. We need to build a spine with best possible depth to challenge top CL firms again.
Exactly. DDG is world class, but apart from Buffon, keepers don't go for anywhere near as much as those of similar quality in different positions. Let alone one going into the last year of his contract and wanting to leave.
One of the main reasons I'd love to sign him, apart from him being world class, is to shut that cocky Ballague up! He constantly comes out with stuff as if it's a matter of fact!
We should offer ddg to barcelona for 10m just to spite madrid. The look on their face is worth it
i'm not so sure how keen we are interested in ramos. if we do then everyone should have heard something prior to hummels, otamendi...etc i believe. but obviously our interest were just leaked to the english media and now all over spanish papers.
reportedly ramos wants 10m net and real only offer him 7 to extend the contract. now we are giving ramos big bargaining chips and the spanish fanning it out to 12 already. in gross term real has to pay an extra 50m euros if they bow to the ramos demand. i can't see any better punishment to real when they try to steal our pricey asset in a dirty way.
we can also use our reported interest in ramos to press valencia to accept a fair price for otamendi. if real really lost ramos to us and turned for otamendi, then otamendi would not even report back to valencia after the summer break at all. it's unlike us to process our transfer with manner
a very nice move from woody. or the one whom told woody to do so should get the credit.
reportedly ramos wants 10m net and real only offer him 7 to extend the contract. now we are giving ramos big bargaining chips and the spanish fanning it out to 12 already. in gross term real has to pay an extra 50m euros if they bow to the ramos demand. i can't see any better punishment to real when they try to steal our pricey asset in a dirty way.
we can also use our reported interest in ramos to press valencia to accept a fair price for otamendi. if real really lost ramos to us and turned for otamendi, then otamendi would not even report back to valencia after the summer break at all. it's unlike us to process our transfer with manner
a very nice move from woody. or the one whom told woody to do so should get the credit.
We could offer him for nothing they still would not be able to sign him.
Buffon's fee was ridiculously high for a keeper, yeah. However, when a team has one of the best players in their position, they should be able to get those sort of sums.
Unlucky for us, it's come right down to the last year of his contract.
Woodward is learning from the best/worst.If United talked and agreed terms with Ramos months ago and they did the offer now...then they acted in the back of the club...very naughty club, that kind of dirty tactics are only used for despicable clubs as Madrid
But if Real Madrid phoned up Woodward tomorrow and offered £20m, he'd almost certainly (if he has any nouse at all), say no.
We don't need the money and are under no pressure to sell him, so he's worth whatever the club say he's worth. Hypothetical talk of what De Gea would be worth in a football manager-like scenario is pretty redundant. It would be different if we were a club that has to sell players to make ends meet, or were always on the limit of their wage bill, but we're not.
Is it bad that the main thing I took from that whole video was how shit Valdes was for the header at 3:09?
any truth in the £75m = DDG offer I am reading about, if there is that escalated quickly from £25m + DDG.
what?!
A few things:
- We have no idea of the club's financial health between last year and Fergie's era. Sure, we spent a lot on b-listers, but we won trophies and kept the wage bill sane. Do you think Fergie suddenly stopped recognizing good players one year??
- Getting a player like Ramos from Madrid is huge. Buying starter(s) from Madrid is huge coup and reflective of our current financial stature. How much would you value 29 year Rio, Vidic or Terry if PSG were to buy them at this climate?
- I'd rather not lose DDG but if Woody pulls this he can come out of this saga with a smug smile.
I imagine only way it will happen is if Madrid take us to the cleaners and get a big fee and de gea. Ramos isn't worth more than 30m so it should be a straight swap or a small amount of money plus de gea, if Woodward could pull that off it would be impressive but not going to happen.
No chance.
Just sign him up. I don't care how much we pay. 30million plus De Gea, just get it done Woody. Everyone on here will forget his price tag when he's our best defender by a country mile next season. Time will heal everyone's concern. At least it won't personally affect your bank account.
Is there a chance we could be signing him to play RB?
That is the only scenario in which the 75m fee can look worse than it is.
probably. but just as a back up. and ramos can also play no 6. this gives him additional value to supplement carrick in his absence and if we cannot land bastian. that's the footballing reason i can think about
No.
At the age of 29, he is not going to play right back again unless it is a emergency. He doesn't fit the profile of a Van Gaal fullback.
It's great he could play right back. But that would be such a waste considering our defence and he'd be the best defender.
At the age of 29, he is not going to play right back again unless it is a emergency. He doesn't fit the profile of a Van Gaal fullback.
It's great he could play right back. But that would be such a waste considering our defence and he'd be the best defender.
75m? Surely not
I wouldn't mind Ramos at RB actually. I think he was pretty good there especially going forward. Besides, if he played CB wouldn't he replace Smalling? I cringe at the prospect of seeing a CB partnership of Ramos and the car crash that is Rojo.
75m? Surely not
I wouldn't mind Ramos at RB actually. I think he was pretty good there especially going forward. Besides, if he played CB wouldn't he replace Smalling? I cringe at the prospect of seeing a CB partnership of Ramos and the car crash that is Rojo.
What?
He'd most likely partner Smalling. He'd be replacing Jones.
I thought he was a RCB?
What? 75m would be an absolute joke regardless.
You realize that it's not 75m?
Well, I'd surprised if it was, but that's not the point I'm making. Was just pointing out that 75m is a ridiculous fee for a defender (don't care if it's Maldini).
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