All this nonsense about De Gea's house being up for sale is irrelevant. It's not his house, he's renting it. The person who owns it want's to realise their capital for something else, that's all.
De Gea Contract Situation
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So say he was to stay as Madrid don't pay up with the intention of leaving on a free next year and seeing the club lose the 18 million we paid, how comfortable a ride do people think next season with be for him?
I realise people showed a lot of support for him at the end of the season no doubt hoping for him to stay but this would be different.
I realise people showed a lot of support for him at the end of the season no doubt hoping for him to stay but this would be different.
You honesty believe that? Did he not change agents as well? Looks like to me he had this well thought out in advance.
I'd hope that he wouldn't be played.
It would be in our best interests to bed in a keeper for the long term rather than putting it on the long finger and waiting until he actually leaves.
People can say he's a great professional but if the club stands in the way of his dream move, I'm guessing there would be some resentment on his part. Especially since it's the year before the Euros and starting for Madrid would almost guarantee his starting spot for Spain.
Well considering all the reports all year have indicated how "unsure" DDG is, I think it's fairly believable that he hadn't entered into negotiations with Madrid. Who knows though, he might have done, he might have put Mendes up to it, or Mendes might have done it off his own back - we don't know... just don't see how we can vilify someone on pure speculation, when really, we don't know anything.
Wouldn't be surprised if he got a very good reception each time he played.
As I said in a previous post, I believe Mendes and/or RM have put him in a very difficult position. He was probably informed RM were interested, he would like to go home, so isn't signing a new contract. However, they have not delivered on their side.
If he was to stay without signing a new contract, I would play him in the CL game just to tie him and feck RM up so they don't make a pathethic bid for him in January. We have Valdes so I would give him more games to prove his worth. With a better defense and midfield, Valdes would be better protected, so DDG would not be such a big loss. We always seem to think that when we lose a top goalkeeper we will be fecked, not really happened so far. Could have done better with some, but no one GK has screwed us up.
It's simple really. De Gea wants to play for Madrid instead of United. Mendes hasn't handled this well imo but it's De Gea who ultimately has the say on where he wants to go. If we can get ramos included in the transfer then I'm all for him going but if Madrid don't agree then we'll keep him on the bench all next season.
Ronaldo wasn't exactly shy when trying to force his transfer to Madrid the first time around, comparing himself to a slave and all that crap, the fans still stood by him the following season despite the fact we knew by then he desperately wanted out and his future as a United player on borrowed time.
De Gea, in respect to the club/fans has kept his mouth shut so far on the subject, the fans after 4-5 games will no dobut continue to support him once the transfer window closes.
Why wouldn't he get our full backing?He'd have honoured the full length of his contract which is all you can ask for, and up to now has given consistently very good performances, never uttered a bad word, and been basically an ever present.
He changed to mendes before signing for us, which is basically our preference.
Our hands are tied?
DdG can't leave.
Real can't take.
We can choose to keep or sell.
I think we hold all the cards in this game.
And don't give me the "he can go for free next season". Every player in this universe can leave for free in a couple of years if they want. Who cares? We do not need their money. Not this year, not next year. They don't have any financial leverage over us.
So they can suck our noodlecup-marketing money-balls!
DdG can't leave.
Real can't take.
We can choose to keep or sell.
I think we hold all the cards in this game.
And don't give me the "he can go for free next season". Every player in this universe can leave for free in a couple of years if they want. Who cares? We do not need their money. Not this year, not next year. They don't have any financial leverage over us.
So they can suck our noodlecup-marketing money-balls!
This is how Levy thinks, let us hope Woody & Co think and act likewise. DDG was happy to sign last contract, so honour it. I think Bayern are another club that make players honour their contract unless Bayern want to get rid.
I just don't think that him staying on without signing a contract ( won't happen) will be good for anyone at the club , for the team to become better you need every player to believe in what is happening and to have a player in the dressing room who is certain to leave won't be good for morale
Poppycock.
Completely agree, I'm seeing fans say we keep him next season and force him to stay.
Well the reality of it is folks, United will tarnish their reputation I'd imagine. How would other players view United then for future transfers? Whilst we shouldn't allow ourselves to be walked over, completing the transfers asap is best for both clubs if DDG wants to leave and it seems he most definitely does.
I think it depends on how 'professional' the player (and team mates) are.
Hasn't he put his home up for sale today...
Hardly the actions of somebody who will be staying another year...
Hardly the actions of somebody who will be staying another year...
Real don't think about logic, their entire operation is predicated on getting what they want, when they want or bitch and whine until they do. Not getting De Gea will be seen as a loss by Perez and sooner than later he will pay once he realizes all his underhanded tactics have failed. This is exactly what Levy did with the Bale transfer and I'm happy Woodward is standing his ground and demanding a fair evaluation on this one.
DDG is doing the right thing. I'm sure he has voiced his stance to the people that matters ( Ed and LVG). Going to the press and saying stuff is unprofessional.
No he's not. Give us how or say you're going.
He's been a little bitch IMO
The players just have to give explanations to the club , which is paying them, and even for that they have an agent. Today with facebook and twitter speak publicly means immediately be humiliated and receive all types of abuse
Indeed. I'd love is to finally take the gloves off and give then a kidding to.
Most players have one thing on their mind when thinking of moving and we make five hundred millions of it every year. I wouldn't be shocked if other goalkeepers think De Gea is stupid in turning down 200k, a wage Madrid will never pay him since they reserve that for the revenue drivers like Bale and CR7.
United is not tarnishing anything. It's simple, a deal can't be reach. He will play is last year of contract and go for free. If he wants to leave that bad, then his agent should tell Madrid to pay up.
Just because you think transfers should be done ASAP, doesn't mean we should sell below valuation. Madrid have not offer anything above 18M pounds which is an insult to us.
Madrid won't accept 30M pounds for a 29yr old defender and they want DDG for what again? Think mate.
I could see him signing a new contract with a release clause and staying.
It's up to Madrid to put up or shut up really, Dave can't buy himself out.
It's up to Madrid to put up or shut up really, Dave can't buy himself out.
Money isn't always the answer, some want more and others don't. De Gea clearly chooses life happiness over money. So you kind of shoot yourself in the foot there.
It's just down to a players preference, there are lots of things to consider when they move clubs. Money is only one of them, if they have family (wife and kids) then they have to be considered number one. There are plenty of other things to consider too.
At the moment were fine but if United were to force him to stay then it would be frowned upon by some players, players have inflated egos these days and they expect to get what they want when they want it.
But again, that is on a player by player basis of course.
Really pleased how we are handling this so far. Demanding big money and unsettling Ramos should make them think twice about trying to sign one of our players in the future. Perhaps in hindsight we bent over a little too easily over Ronaldo so good we aren't doing the same with De Gea.
Yes, its perfectly believable. Its been in the news that Madrid haven't even sent an official bid yet. Its also in the news that De Gea has asked them to get rid of Casillas, first.
While all this is true he is basically robbing us of the chance to be appropriately financially compensated for him leaving.
I understand players think the world revolves around them these days and luckily the financial hit will not really have much impact on us but would we have paid £18million for him if we believed 4 years later he would try and run his contract down and leave for as cheap as possible. I don't think so and think he has used this all to his advantage to try and save Madrid some money, get him his move and we take the hit.
Not showing the club or the fans of the club a lot of respect in my opinion but may just be me.
I think that'd be great. They're the type of players I'd rather not sign. I want a player who can't sleep at night because he's so excited about playing for United. Someone who feels like his dreams have come true. Someone who'd never see us as a stepping stone.
That does not paint DDG in a good light.
To say to your prospective employer - I want you to fire the guy who is currently in the position which I want to take over. If you dont fire him, i won't join.
I think it's smart from De Gea to be honest.
If Casillas is still there, on the bench say, then I'm sure we'll get the same leaks and media campaigns that we did the first time Casillas was dropped. Real Madrid is a political minefield and Casillas plays that game better than most, he's got a lot of power behind the scenes.
People always said we should have asked for a player in the deal, so we would have strengthened our squad or they would have had to pay even more to get him.
United need to show strength in this situation and i believe that is what they are doing.
No need for United to rush and push for a quick sale, if he is to leave then Madrid can have him at midnight on deadline day. The Valdes signing means United have a very experienced back up and shows they knew this situation was coming long before the fans.
No need for United to rush and push for a quick sale, if he is to leave then Madrid can have him at midnight on deadline day. The Valdes signing means United have a very experienced back up and shows they knew this situation was coming long before the fans.
http://www.corazonblanco.com/mendes_se_reafirma_hoy_con_iker_no_hay_de_gea-itemap-55-90812-1.htm
It is in Spanish however if you don't read in Spanish, most users are saying that Iker should gracefully leave and bring De Gea in already.
It is in Spanish however if you don't read in Spanish, most users are saying that Iker should gracefully leave and bring De Gea in already.
I think we are making the right decision in letting him leave for nothing next year,it will give us a chance to look for a suitable replacement rather than panic buy this season.
Wishful thinking but a lot can happen in a year and by some miracle DDG might have a change in circumstances and end up sticking with us for another bit.
Wishful thinking but a lot can happen in a year and by some miracle DDG might have a change in circumstances and end up sticking with us for another bit.
A couple of days ago in el partido de las doce(a radio program) they were talking about Iker leaving to Tottenham and Lloris to United,however a famous journalist said(after talking to Pochettino) that United hadn't done an offer.They also said that Cillessen was Van Gaal favorite
According to Marca, United are playing hardball because of what we went through with Di Maria, difficulty in negotiations and high price paid. But some fans want us to accept peanuts so other players won't be unhappy 
According to Marca, United are playing hardball because of what we went through with Di Maria, difficulty in negotiations and high price paid. But some fans want us to accept peanuts so other players won't be unhappy
I think we're doing the right thing. I don't know why some fans want us to be pushovers.
People says that De Gea and other future players will be discourage by United stance in this. But I think there's a possibility that Madrid reluctance to fork out a bigger fee would make De Gea feels that Madrid didn't value him that much. If De Gea feels that he is the best in the world, wouldn't he feels that he should be valued as the best in the world? And if Madrid want him that much, they should make more effort for him.
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