De Gea Contract Situation
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I am shocked.
Absolutely loving it.
Woody is becoming a bit of a star. As a money man it must be very hard for him to not take the money now, rather than get sweet FA next year. Standing by the manager is alien to RM.
Woody is becoming a bit of a star. As a money man it must be very hard for him to not take the money now, rather than get sweet FA next year. Standing by the manager is alien to RM.
Breaking news eh?
SSN can not keep up with other media.
Classic Sky.
So.. de Gea might be leaving? Why has nobody thought of this scenario before
fecking Sky 
I've said it before.. some journos are absolutely stealing a living.
I've said it before.. some journos are absolutely stealing a living.
Loving the fact that we're standing up to Madrid and not allowing them (and de Gea) to bully us into a transfer even though theres a high chance we end up on the losing end next year if Ramos stays and Dave goes on a free.
Twitter has killed them.
A lot of things can change in 1 season. Just saying.
I think we are bluffing - i don't think we have any intention of losing 25 million on him - we have just leaked this to the press as a last roll of the dice.
Well if he's staying, Miss Edurnity will have to take several seats and get her arse to Manchester if she wants to see her man.
Even if we win the league and Real finish fifth, he'll still be off. Would love it if he did change his mind but can't see it happening. He knows the chaos at Real and the constant managerial changes but being with his family, friends and girlfriend is more important to him.
Cause what happens next Summer is totally out of hands as from midnight on Jan 1st De Gea can agree to join any club he wishessunama said:
Glad we've adopted this stance, at the end of the day keeping de gea for another season is more important than 18m or whatever ridiculous amount Madrid are offering. Either completely rinse them for De Gea or get a player in return and if Madrid don't fancy that then they can have him next year. At least then we have a further year to look round Europe and find a replacement/further study those we're presumably looking at already. Plus, De Gea can't afford to kick up a fuss when he's not even the guaranteed number 1 for Spain. If Valdes moves and plays regularly, Casillas impresses at Porto and Casilla plays a fair amount at Madrid, they'll all be in with a shot at starting at Euro 2016.
Good position for the club to take. £18M is nowhere De Gea's value even for 1 season.De gea has never said he is unhappy here and I'm sure he will continue to perform to the best of his ability.
If Real do want him now they can play ball with Ramos within the next week or feck off.I imagine we'll sign Otamendi on his return from holiday instead.
If Real do want him now they can play ball with Ramos within the next week or feck off.I imagine we'll sign Otamendi on his return from holiday instead.
I find this great and I have a weird tingly feeling that DeGea could end up getting seriously pissed at this stance from Madrid. The don't value him enough to pay what utd want in order to sell him.
If he does end up staying this season, atleast it will give us a year to find a proper replacement.
Is this bollox ive seen trending last 10 minutes down to Sky being shite?
Surely DDG is the guaranteed starting keeper for Spain regardless of where his career takes him, no? I don't see any of the mentioned keepers stepping up to his level.
Now that we have him here for another season, there's a possibility that we may be able to convince him to stay for the long term, or at least sign a contract that forces Madrid to pay out the nose for him. SImilar to what Ronaldo did.
Yes up to 43.4%
Glad I stood by my 'yes' vote. Come on guys, DDG is staying!
Glad I stood by my 'yes' vote. Come on guys, DDG is staying!
Not going to deny that as things stand, he certainly looks to be leaving next summer. But we never know what could happen in the span of 1 season and there's been bigger shocks in football before. It's enough time for master Ed Woodward to find him a new partner, for one. No?
Or perhaps more realistically, Perez might do something weird.
Any hope of him signing a new contract?
Even if its just for us to get a higher transfer fee!
It's probably not likely though!
Even if its just for us to get a higher transfer fee!
It's probably not likely though!
I wouldn't hold my breath. He doesn't give a shit about doing right by us. We need to be on top of the situation and avidly look for his replacement.
He hasn't so far, but another season here and us progressing in the League and CL and with Ed / LVG telling him do the right thing by the club he might sign a 1 or 2 year extension.
Thing is then he'd probably be thinking what if Real don't come back in for me, I'm stuck here without my girlfriend for another 2 seasons
Feck sake with his money he should be with a different super model every night! She has him wrapped around her ickle finger!
I absolutely love that the club are taking this stance.
I don't think so, obviously on talent he's the clear number one but Del Bosque's been preferring Casillas for ages and that's when he's been in and out of the team so now he's somewhere where he should play every week I wouldn't put it past him (Del Bosque) to start Casillas at the Euro's. The other names were more just speculative to show that De Gea will have competition and can't afford to have a strop and refuse to stop training/playing (not that I think he'll do that but you never know with footballers nowadays.)
Hope so.
Nope that bridge seems to have been burned.
Have to say but Big Dave does sound like a wuss. Can't be without his girlfriend blah blahHe hasn't so far, but another season here and us progressing in the League and CL and with Ed / LVG telling him do the right thing by the club he might sign a 1 or 2 year extension.
Thing is then he'd probably be thinking what if Real don't come back in for me, I'm stuck here without my girlfriend for another 2 seasons
Feck sake with his money he should be with a different super model every night! She has him wrapped around her ickle finger!
Quite frankly I'm pretty sure his reasons are a mixture of wanting to always play for Madrid and/or being Spain's No.1.
If I were him, I'd be fecking fuming at both the agent and RM.
Had he signed a new deal 18 months ago, he would not only be earning double what he is, that is nearly 6 million in lost earnings, but he would have the leverage to get higher wages, or at least matched wages from RM. Now hes on lowball money, and after obviously tapping him up, RM so value him they wont even stump up a reasonable price for him, and are leaving him to see his contract out.
Thats an absolute shitefest of decisions by his agent.
Oh for sure he's probably angry with his agent and RM, but he should also be angry with himself for taking a stupid decision. He's not a child, everybody knows that you cannot trust the RM hierarchy to do right by a player. Why take chances then? If you're negotiating with them, you should always ensure you're in a strong position. Should have ensured he signed an extension with us before engaging with Madrid in any kind of transfer talk. But (1) his agent Mendes probably thought 'I'm so powerful and United are pussies so no way will they make any trouble if De Gea wants to go" and (2) De Gea being the coward he is, fell for Madrid probably slyly suggesting to him that they wouldn't go for him if he signed an extension.
Bad move all around from De Gea and his camp underestimating Big Wooders
Looking at the Casilla fee, he has been signed as the 3rd Gk
Keeping him at the club for another season seems risky to me, even though he'd be very hard to replace. Although I love the club's stance on De Gea and the fact that we've stood up to Madrid, I believe that keeping a player who doesn't want to be here anymore, could potentially disrupt our season. He'd probably get some stick from the match-going fans, which could also disrupt his own performances.
For me, personally, it'd be shit knowing for a whole season that one of our best players would leave on a free and that he doesn't really want to be at the club anymore. That'd also put him under the microscope, with people constantly doubting his professionalism and scrutinizing every single thing he does. God forbid he makes a mistake - people would say it's because he doesn't give a shit etc. Deep inside we all knew that Ronaldo was going to sign for Madrid sooner or later as it was his ''dream'', but it'd have been much shittier knowing in advance exactly when it was going to happen. That'd be the case with De Gea.
I think him staying would bring some annoying negativity to the club and to us fans as well. I'm really divided here. On one hand I don't want us missing out on his transfer fee and all the things I just said, but on the other hand I love what Woody and the club are doing with Madrid, refusing to bent over to them and the thought of Ramos arriving at United excites me, even though it's not very realistic. It's still a nice ''what if'' though. I think, like with most things in life, there will be pros and cons no matter what happens or doesn't happen with De Gea this summer.
For me, personally, it'd be shit knowing for a whole season that one of our best players would leave on a free and that he doesn't really want to be at the club anymore. That'd also put him under the microscope, with people constantly doubting his professionalism and scrutinizing every single thing he does. God forbid he makes a mistake - people would say it's because he doesn't give a shit etc. Deep inside we all knew that Ronaldo was going to sign for Madrid sooner or later as it was his ''dream'', but it'd have been much shittier knowing in advance exactly when it was going to happen. That'd be the case with De Gea.
I think him staying would bring some annoying negativity to the club and to us fans as well. I'm really divided here. On one hand I don't want us missing out on his transfer fee and all the things I just said, but on the other hand I love what Woody and the club are doing with Madrid, refusing to bent over to them and the thought of Ramos arriving at United excites me, even though it's not very realistic. It's still a nice ''what if'' though. I think, like with most things in life, there will be pros and cons no matter what happens or doesn't happen with De Gea this summer.
Credit where credit's due, United have handled the De Gea situation admirably so far. That said, if his replacement is Cillessen, I will be posting several green smileys when that happens.
Poor ickle Madrid
You were told record fee, Ramos or sod off, don't like it when you don't get your own way arrogant club.
There'd be a total meltdown on here if we had a whole year to find a keeper and that little boy of a keeper was chosen.
I hope we keep him if Ramos doesn't come. He has to play well because of the euros.
I hope we keep him if Ramos doesn't come. He has to play well because of the euros.
I just hope it is resolved one way or another quickly, whether he stays or goes should be decided within next week or so. We aren't getting Ramos but Madrid might meet our asking price late in the window and we don't want to end up panic buying a keeper.
Would be stupid to have done so much good work in the transfer window and then end up replacing de gea with someone really inferior like cillesen.
Would be stupid to have done so much good work in the transfer window and then end up replacing de gea with someone really inferior like cillesen.
they're not talking pounds are they, it's euros?
Bearing in mind we lashed about £18m all in, on the Falcao loan fee and wages, £15-18m or so probably isn't worth as much as us doing well with him this year.
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