[Poll] Will MUFC win the Premier League under Van Gaal?

Will United win the Premier League under Van Gaal?

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Not enough sparkle in attack, as things stand. Think we still need an attacking player to have a Cantona/Ronaldo effect on us. That we don't have this player as of 23/7/15 doesn't mean we won't win under Van Gaal - as the club have shown that they are willing to do whatever it takes to secure this player should he become available.

Overall, I'm not fully convinced by Van Gaal. He seems to be trying to invent football, and contrary to the consensus or his reputation, I see him as a negative football manager. he is no advocate of flowing attacking football at all.

Also, I think it is worth noting just how terrible the playing surface was last night. Very difficult conditions to play well.
 
its very difficult to win the league, a lot of united fans perhaps don't appreciate this because we had a football god in charge to whom regular rules of existance didnt apply but just ask arsenal fans how tough it is or liverpool fans for that matter. City for all their billions won it on goal difference one year and the last day on the other they've also have never looked like retaining it

i think LVG will put up a very good fight for the league, i think he's shown he can organise a team and drill them defensively very well so for me it rests with our attackers - if we click up front next year we'd have a fantastic chance but if we continue to struggle to breakdown the lower sides it'll be too many silly points dropped
 
No. I don't think we will ever win the league with LVG. However, he will create a good team that wins something, probably the FA Cup or "Milk" cup as I prefer to call it.
 
No, I don't think we will win it this year or the next. This season, we can only expect a decent cup run, a good CL outing and top 3, especially if De Gea leaves. Chelsea have a fantastic squad which doesn't need to settle like we do and I have a feeling this will be the year Arsenal have a shot at the title.
 
Oneunited26 said:
Didnt VG buy Depay to solve that problem? the teams balance has been a bigger problem, and with no RVP and Falcao, more of our players who did well last season will play this season. I see no reason if these players gel, why they cannot go on to be a real threat
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Depay is more of a goalscorer than a creator, I don't think he'll be the answer against teams with everyone behind the ball.

I don't think we'll win the league or CL under van Gaal. Too many stronger teams in the CL and I also think Chelsea will be too strong for us in the league.
 
This season will answer that for us. Right now I think his approach is too formulaic; we're predictable, slow, and over-complicated. We've only played two pre-season games but they seem to have confirmed the sort of style we can expect to see. Also, he seems to want to play people out of position or utilise strange formations just because. Also, we lack a talisman player; anyone who says Rooney ought to be shot. Either we change these or we don't win a title.
 
sizzling sausages said:
Depay is more of a goalscorer than a creator, I don't think he'll be the answer against teams with everyone behind the ball.

I don't think we'll win the league or CL under van Gaal. Too many stronger teams in the CL and I also think Chelsea will be too strong for us in the league.
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Is there a better midfield in the PL than united's? I do not think so. It looks like DDG is staying, how is depay a goalscorer? when he clearly is a winger, united's problems have come from a lack of number 6 and organisation at the back, the club hellbent on solving deeper issues. How are Chelsea that much stronger than us? the lack of signings from them, their ageing CB in terry, beyond cesc and matic there is not a great deal of depth, and they have taken on falcao, someone which was a problem fitting in at united. I think united have a great chance of winning it, the fixture list has panned out great for united. I see no reason why this club cannot challenge for the league if the team gels
 
Three in a row, just for Giggs to take over and make it unprecedented 7 back-to-back titles. Good times ahead.

And if not, I will never ever predict that we'll win 7 titles in a row again.
 
Next season will be extremely difficult to do so. Chelsea won the league easily last year with a young team - only Terry and maybe Ivanovic could reasonably by expected to decline and they seem to be compensating that by going for Stones. They will have minimal new signings to bed in which also gives them a massive advantage over us. Not to mention that on top of that, they have Eden Hazard. We don't have a game changer like that should Di Maria go. Should he stay, there's no guaranteeing what his form will be like. This is without even mentioning City and Arsenal. And if we're talking about game changers, Ageuro and Sanchez are a cut above anything we've got.

The season after next I have a good feeling about. Well, as much as its possible to have a good feeling about something so far away.
 
If this were 2008 I would say no. The league these days isn't up to par and it would be hard not to win it due to the talent and money we're spending.
Jose will start to get itchy feet soon, get him into a title race around the knockout stages of CL and see what happens. He doesn't rotate well generally and with added pressure it wouldn't be any easier.
I'd have loved to have seen them under that severe pressure last year, I don't think they would have coped. That team crawled over the line with their parked bus displays. Who defends v Stoke at home or away to Hull as if they were facing Barca in the Camp Nou?
 
cyberman said:
If this were 2008 I would say no. The league these days isn't up to par and it would be hard not to win it due to the talent and money we're spending.
Jose will start to get itchy feet soon, get him into a title race around the knockout stages of CL and see what happens. He doesn't rotate well generally and with added pressure it wouldn't be any easier.
I'd have loved to have seen them under that severe pressure last year, I don't think they would have coped. That team crawled over the line with their parked bus displays. Who defends v Stoke at home or away to Hull as if they were facing Barca in the Camp Nou?
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Us?
 
It's amazing the amount of people think we won't win the league just because Di Maria is leaving, Di Maria isn't even anywhere near the level of Bale,Hazard Neymar etc and was absolute shite last year, him leaving won't mean anything for the title. Our biggest stumbling blocks are injuries and how quickly the new signings settle. If these things align then we have a squad that really should be competing and LVG will be gone if we don't.
 
When we signed him, I thought that he was a great choice, he is great coach when it comes to lay solid foundations, but I don't think that he will have a lot of success himself, his successor will win the league.
 
togg said:
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Na, we use the tactics of having 93 percent possession with 2 shots in target.
They were miles clear in the title race and for some reason just closed up shop. It was baffling. The amount of plaudits and admiration they had for the first half / 2 thirds of the season just vanished because of that
 
It depends about the final touches. Bring 2quality CBs to replace/challenge the injury and error prone duo, add a quality winger, bring a good cover for Rooney and keep DDG and we would be seriously challenging for the EPL
 
togg said:
Reading through all these so far, it's kind of looking like the Caf is edging away from 'believing' in LVG
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Actually they recognise the enormous gap in terms of quality between Chelsea/City and the pre LVG Manchester United. That gap requires time to close
 
ottosec said:
I just don't see it.

Our main problem last season was that we couldn't create shit and we could rarely unlock small teams that had 10 men behind the ball. His rigid system doesn't seem to work against those teams and needs players with xfactor to unlock them, but he doesn't seem to like those players because they lose possession to often, if we sell Di Maria we basically have none of them left.
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Absolutely :drool:
 
ottosec said:
I just don't see it.

Our main problem last season was that we couldn't create shit and we could rarely unlock small teams that had 10 men behind the ball. His rigid system doesn't seem to work against those teams and needs players with xfactor to unlock them, but he doesn't seem to like those players because they lose possession to often, if we sell Di Maria we basically have none of them left.
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We kept conceding in such games and that was the problem. To be fair, if we manage to draw a few of those games and maintain our record against the Top 4 from last season then we will definitely be up there towards the end.

So in my opinion, we would definitely be better in those games.
 
Yes. We could have sneaked it last season. I genuinely believe that the players felt that had they got a result at Chelsea they would have gone on a run of wins until the end of the season. After they lost at Chelsea however, our players effectively gave up knowing fourth was pretty much assured. Our late season dip had much more to do with having nothing to play for than the quality of the squad.

We can definitely win the title. We have good players and we have added very good, and one great player, to that this summer. Our results against the top four last season were second only to Chelsea's, it was against the smaller sides that we came unstuck. With the signings we have made, if we play to the strengths of the squad, and stick to the shape that works for them e.g. 4-3-3 I think this year we can turn a lot of last year's bad results into wins. We do that and we'll be well on the way to 85-90 points. If anyone can match or better that will deserve to win the title.
 
We might not win it this year but I think it'll be next year. You just need that bit of luck to go your way to win trophies. Think we'll also go far in the champions league, don't think we'll win it under him though. This is like the Bayern situation though, he is doing great work in rebuilding us, and assembling a quality squad, but I'm not sure if he's going to be the one overseeing the success because he's only here for 3 years (unless he changes his mind and stays longer), so who knows if we'll actually win it.

I'm definitely happy with Van Gaal though, one thing I always wanted under Fergie was for us to approach big games as the bigger and better team and just look to control and dominate all over the pitch, instead of sitting back and rely on a bit of luck (like in the Madrid game, which can always go badly). There are obviously ways that we can be better on the eye with Van Gaal, like giving our attackers more freedom on the ball, but he's laying a really good foundation and I can see us going far in the CL.
 
Strong maybe, probably next year with a strong performance this year.

Arsenal and Chelsea just need to tweak a strong foundation. City will always be a threat, but last few windows they have failed badly in the transfer window. We are starting to get a good foundation. If LVG gets us to work as a team we may be very serious challengers.
 
This season: almost impossible to win, because we have bought too many new players, which I think LVG believes are required in the first team.
Next year: definitely. LVG himself will be embarrassed if he cant win the title after spending so much money. And to be fair any decent manager should be able to win a league title, after spending £300M - £400M, in 3 Summers.

It really bugs me that we didnt get Mourinho, because he'd have us winning the title without spending such huge sums of money. And he probably would've won the title in his first year with us.
Alas, he went to Chelsea and won the title for them, instead.
 
#07 said:
Yes. We could have sneaked it last season. I genuinely believe that the players felt that had they got a result at Chelsea they would have gone on a run of wins until the end of the season. After they lost at Chelsea however, our players effectively gave up knowing fourth was pretty much assured. Our late season dip had much more to do with having nothing to play for than the quality of the squad.

We can definitely win the title. We have good players and we have added very good, and one great player, to that this summer. Our results against the top four last season were second only to Chelsea's, it was against the smaller sides that we came unstuck. With the signings we have made, if we play to the strengths of the squad, and stick to the shape that works for them e.g. 4-3-3 I think this year we can turn a lot of last year's bad results into wins. We do that and we'll be well on the way to 85-90 points. If anyone can match or better that will deserve to win the title.
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Really?
 
dxadel said:
Really?
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Had Rooney's early chance at Chelsea gone in, had Falcao not hit the post, the season might have ended very differently. Chelsea were stumbling at the time and playing pretty dreadfully. Their results immediately before our game were very jammy. Sides like QPR were taking them to the wire. Had we beaten Chelsea their confidence would have been badly knocked. It was the belief Chelsea gained from beating us that put them back on track. As I said, it also ended our season. After that the players knew there was nothing to play for and they were pretty much on the beach from then on.
 
Gopher Brown said:
The last season we played good football consistently was probably 06/07. We've won trophies playing unattractive football since then.

A lot of factors need to align to win the title, but I think we'll make a serious go of it this season. If we are within a point or two in April next year then we'll see. Ultimately, I never expect us to win anything, but history has always shown that we manage it. In short, yes.
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Glad I'm not the only one :lol:
 
Still on the fence, unless we do end up signing a class CB plus class attacker (if AdM leaves).

We lack spark, and sometimes I'm not convinced by his rather baffling decisions - lineups/tactics/substitutions.

But yeah....undecided at the moment.
 
#07 said:
Had Rooney's early chance at Chelsea gone in, had Falcao not hit the post, the season might have ended very differently. Chelsea were stumbling at the time and playing pretty dreadfully. Their results immediately before our game were very jammy. Sides like QPR were taking them to the wire. Had we beaten Chelsea their confidence would have been badly knocked. It was the belief Chelsea gained from beating us that put them back on track. As I said, it also ended our season. After that the players knew there was nothing to play for and they were pretty much on the beach from then on.
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I get the whole confidence thing, but we still finished 17 points behind Chelsea - there's no way in hell we would have been able to sneak into 1st position - not even a 5 game winning streak (and a 5 game losing streak for Chelsea).

We went through a whole season without knowing our best 11.
 
This place is so negative at times, we have a great chance this year. I'm a very pessimistic person as a rule but very optimistic about this season, it's realistic to think we can do it. The way things currently stand we have improved our squad significantly. There are serious questions over De Gea and Di Maria. We need to see who we replace them with our at all. If we sign Otamendi or Ramos which is a real possibility we have a great chance. I think we will sign another striker and defender, LVG said we will bring it at least 2 more. Our midfield is as strong as any team in the premier league now. We will be doing the bullying this year I feel. These are the reasons I think we have a good chance:
1) LVG is getting a proper Summer this season, not rushed because of the WC and has a better understanding of the teams ability. The core of our new signings being brought in before the pre season will help.
2) The players we brought in last year will settle in it the team better. Players like Herrera, Shaw and Blind know what's expected now.
3) The team have finally understood how LVG wants them to play. His new play style and philosophy took to the end of the season to gel, we will improve on it the season. LVG also knows what to expect from dirt like West Brom coming to Old Trafford.
4) Injuries, I doubt anyone in here will argue that the amount of injuries we had last season was unlucky. That was crazy last season and it's a safe bet to say it won't be as bad next year. I doubt many teams could cope as well with a manager in his first season.
5) Current champions: Chelsea in my opinion had that league won by fecking Christmas. They were never properly challenged last year. It was more a question of who will finish where in the rest of the league. Alex Ferguson always said that when you win the league you need to freshin up the team and give the fans something to get excited about. Constantly improve on it and get everyone raring to go, it fights off complacency. I don't think Falcao and Begovic as done that, windows not closed but I can guarantee that Chelsea won't have it easy this year.
6) Our goal was steadying the ship last year after that clown Moyes nearly sunk it. Getting back in the top four was a realistic objective, winning the league wasn't. Too much happened in a short space of time, Moyes leaving, Giggs in charge, World Cup, Lvg coming after the WC, too much travelling in pre season, new play style ect. Things are much more settled as far as our preparation for the upcoming season. We are not travelling as much in the US, better planning for the start. It was the start that destroyed us. We lost points to Swansea, Burnley and Leicester for god sake.

In my opinion we are the best shape in midfield in almost a decade. We have brought is good strong solid signings like Bastian Schweinsteiger, Darmian and Morgan Schneiderlin to add steal. Depay is the creative outlet we have looking for and there is more to come. I think people forget how flat Chelsea were the season before winning the league. We have a top class manager who is able to beat our main rivals. He like any other signing needed a year in the league. I can't wait for the start of the league and I'm not intimidated by any of our opponents. Another Center back and Striker and we will be not only competing in the league but in Europe as well. Bring it on:devil:
 
Given he has won title in every league/club he has managed and we've spend very big, yes why not? Maybe in his 3rd year, it's possible.
 
Ask again September 2nd.

If we pull off something unprecedented like Ramos/Muller, keep DDG and AdM, then we will obviously win it.
 
Nope. I think he'll get us back to being competitive but I think his best days are behind him
 
Oneunited26 said:
Is there a better midfield in the PL than united's? I do not think so. It looks like DDG is staying, how is depay a goalscorer? when he clearly is a winger, united's problems have come from a lack of number 6 and organisation at the back, the club hellbent on solving deeper issues. How are Chelsea that much stronger than us? the lack of signings from them, their ageing CB in terry, beyond cesc and matic there is not a great deal of depth, and they have taken on falcao, someone which was a problem fitting in at united. I think united have a great chance of winning it, the fixture list has panned out great for united. I see no reason why this club cannot challenge for the league if the team gels
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It's far to early to say we have the best midfield in the league when they haven't even played together yet. Two of them are new signings that could easily struggle to adapt to a new league/style of play. I think De Gea will leave before the end of the transfer window, and all the possible replacements mentioned are big downgrades imo. Look at Depay's goals and assists numbers, he's not going to be getting a lot of assists for us, he's more likely to be trying to get on the end of chances. I think Chelsea are stronger than us because 1) They have a better manager. 2) They have a more settled and a solid team. 3) Their best player is a lot better than anyone we have, and is more likely to break down stubborn defences than anyone we have. They're obviously not far stronger than us as was shown in the games against them last season, and we could win the league if everything goes our way but I do think they're in a far better position going into the season than we are.
 
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