Exactly.
Hazard in La Liga would do a lot of damage and I am sure Real will throw the best part of £100mil for him at some point in the next 2 years.
Hazard, where does he rank among the best in the world
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Exactly.
Hazard in La Liga would do a lot of damage and I am sure Real will throw the best part of £100mil for him at some point in the next 2 years.
Sanchez is amazingly overrated on here.
He would have been rated a lot higher had he been playing for a team that are allowed to attack freely rather than the cautious as ever Chelsea under Jose.
Because of that right now he's behind the likes of Suarez, Robben and Neymar when he could have been in the same tier.
Because of that right now he's behind the likes of Suarez, Robben and Neymar when he could have been in the same tier.
Top 10, top 15 at the very least on his day.
Well thats his fault, he should have came to United then shouldn't he
Best player in the league alongside Aguero and Silva. He's better than Bale or Sanchez.
Put him in Madrid's or Barca's team and he would score 40 goals every season.
Put him in Madrid's or Barca's team and he would score 40 goals every season.
Messi
Ronaldo/Neymar
Neymar/Ronaldo
Robben
Suarez
Aguero
Hazard
Sanchez
Reus
Jones
Ronaldo/Neymar
Neymar/Ronaldo
Robben
Suarez
Aguero
Hazard
Sanchez
Reus
Jones
Jones is being massively underrated on here.
Based on his career goalscoring record that seems rather unlikely. He's only scored 20+ in a season once in his career so far (at Lille). Joining Barça/RM isn't going to suddenly magically double his output, and certainly not every season.
Just outside of the top 10 imo. Him being the best player in the league(although on top form I'd have Aguero) tells more about the level of individual quality of players in the PL than it does about Hazard. Still relatively young though.
I somewhat agree. Hazard is the better player, but could clearly do with some of Sanchez's aggressive attitude on the pitch.
Bolasie is being massively underrated on here.
He's very very good, but he's not good enough to compare to Neymar and Suarez, let alone Messi and Ronaldo.
Still waiting for him to have a proper breakout season a la Bale's last season in england, Suarez or Van Persie's last seasons at Arsenal/debut season at united. He hasn't hit that level yet.
Still waiting for him to have a proper breakout season a la Bale's last season in england, Suarez or Van Persie's last seasons at Arsenal/debut season at united. He hasn't hit that level yet.
In which he scored 26 goals and 11 assists. Hazard just did 19 and 11, in a team where we have a proper striker plus multiple other players who we can rely on to get decent tallies. Hazard was absolutely sensational last year, which is why he swept all the awards. I really don't get how people can't see it.
He'll go on to become like Ribery. Might have one season when he'll rival the absolute best(Roanldo/Messi now; Neymar/Bale* in the future) but will never reach their level on yearly basis.
Probably because it still makes him two tiers below the best. Also it's come a season after Suarez blowing the league out of the park the obvious year, and he was nowhere near that.
Hazard was really good but not compares to the very best to have played in this league - Henry, Suarez, Ronaldo etc.
Robben is insanely good and it could be argued that before his last injury was the second best player in the world.
He and Suarez fight it out for third best for me. In full flow they're the next best after the big two IMO.
Yeah it's so easy to score 40 goals a season. Neymar does it because he has a terrific scoring record across the board from a younger age. Hazard doesn't. If it was that easy, bale, a much superior goal scorer ATM, should be nearing 100 goals for Madrid soon.
I rate him higher than Neymar, below the two monsters, Suarez, Robben, Aguero and possibly Muller.
If I could have any player join United, I would truly pick him if I couldn't pick any of the above.
I might be biased, I've enjoyed watching him since his first top season with Lille. His dribbling I find is only second to Messi's. When I watch him play he almost has that Messi aspect of constantly creating threatening situations.
If I could have any player join United, I would truly pick him if I couldn't pick any of the above.
I might be biased, I've enjoyed watching him since his first top season with Lille. His dribbling I find is only second to Messi's. When I watch him play he almost has that Messi aspect of constantly creating threatening situations.
He's a level below, he needs more end product. I believe he has the talent and motivation to get there. On his day, he is a poison to play against.
Probably true.
Actually, given the importance people attach to pure numbers, he would've benefited simply from playing in any set-up allowing him to stack up more goals and assists. As if this, in itself, would've made him a better player.
You see him step up for Chelsea and effectively win matches for them through sheer individual brilliance - but it takes him 198.898 minutes on average to score a goal, so he can't be all that.
He's incredible, he really is. He does so much more than just score and create and because of that he's in the top 10. No amount of statistical analysis can factor in all that he gives that chelsea team. They are worth watching just because of him.
He breaches the lines like no other, he creates space for others very easily. He's a hazard for defenders and didn't seem to have anyone last season that could stop him.
I'd say there's a clear top 6. Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Aguero, Neymar and Robben.
After that he leads the pack with Silva close behind leading the likes of Sanchez and Costa just after him. Very closely linked together in that pack even more players are debatably in that pack from 7-10.
He breaches the lines like no other, he creates space for others very easily. He's a hazard for defenders and didn't seem to have anyone last season that could stop him.
I'd say there's a clear top 6. Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Aguero, Neymar and Robben.
After that he leads the pack with Silva close behind leading the likes of Sanchez and Costa just after him. Very closely linked together in that pack even more players are debatably in that pack from 7-10.
Whoscored say 5th last year
http://www.whoscored.com/Statistics
But they also say Firmino is the 9th bestest in the world...............so they better be wrong!
http://www.whoscored.com/Statistics
But they also say Firmino is the 9th bestest in the world...............so they better be wrong!
De Bruyne would be outside the top 10 for me stick Hazard in his place (6th) is about right. Top six if you include Hazard (debatable) I can agree with but Sterling wouldn't even make the top 20, Reus, Griezmann, Pogba, Kroos, Aguero, Ibrahimovic, are just some names that have popped into my head and I could go on. Why is Sterling being mentioned as being close to the top 10 players in the world?..That's laughable.Most people would agree that he had a fantastic year, to the point where he's compared now to ronaldo and messi.
Hazard has 19 Goals and 11 Assists in all competition starting 49 games, i think he's scored 5 penalties out of those 19 goals.
Bale who arguably had a frustrating year, has the same amount of goals and assists for real, in 49 games as well, without scoring any penalties i think. James Rodríguez has 17 goals and 16 assists in 43.
Sterling 13G and 9A in 52.
Muller 21G and 14A in 43.
Robben 19G and 9A in 27.
Pedro 16G and 9A in 25, almost half the games.
Sanchez 24G and 12A in 49 games.
De Bruyne 16G and 27A in 51 games.
I won't bother posting stats for ronaldo and messi, it's not even close, even neymar and suarez are ahead comfortably.
Stats obviously don't tell the whole story, but for attacking players goals and assists are their bread and butter, if your numbers are low, you aren't really having a good year.
It's frustrating that united don't have anyone on that list, yet.
Hazard for me still has some way to go, right now i'd have him behind:
1-Messi
2-Ronaldo
3-Neymar
4-Suarez
5-Bale
6-De Bruyne
7-Sanchez
8-Muller
9-Robben
10-Hazard
Sterling isn't that far behind from hazard imo, if you take away the penalties then sterling is pretty close and james is even better.
Even in terms of performances if we ignore the stats, i think 9th or 10th is just about right for hazard.
Oh come on. I argued as much as anyone that Hazard deserved his award but absolutely sensational? He had a very good season in a pretty poor domestic campaign as a whole. No need to go overboard.
He's still outside the top 10 players I think. Off the top of my head I'd probably put these in front:
Messi
Ronaldo
Ibrahimovic
Sewerez
Muller
Aguero
De Gea
Neuer
Robben
Isco
Neymar
Lewandowski
Bale
Iniesta
Messi
Ronaldo
Ibrahimovic
Sewerez
Muller
Aguero
De Gea
Neuer
Robben
Isco
Neymar
Lewandowski
Bale
Iniesta
So if Messi had a bad year being injured you wouldn't put him in the top 5 also?
He is the best player in the PL and in competition for #3 in the World after the big 2.
I like Sanchez been a fan of his for a while and he's made great strides at Arsenal after having to play second and third fiddle at Barca to Messi and Neymar, but i don't think he's quite yet the 7th best player in the world as suggested in the OP.
Cracking player who i think will get better but wildly overrated on here after one good year in england.
there's no way Hazard is as good as Aguero.
According to this forum he wouldn't make the top 5.
Messi
Ronaldo
Herrera
Rafael
Herrera
Messi
Ronaldo
Herrera
Rafael
Herrera
He anyway wouldn't make the top 5.
Gosh Bob, we disagree on something? I wouldn't have suspected..
Aguero > Hazard > Sanchez
The likes of Suarez, Neymar and Muller are better than Hazard too, I think. Still, he'd definitely be one of the 10 best players in the world.
The likes of Suarez, Neymar and Muller are better than Hazard too, I think. Still, he'd definitely be one of the 10 best players in the world.
The pressure on him will be intense this season. Media and supporter expectations are sky high right now. He could buckle under the pressure.
You chat shite but even you must realise that while he easily deserved to win last season he wasn't sensational.
He's the second best in the league in my view. Can still improve further though.
Not even on a Chelsea forum would he make the top 5.
As i've said before, if i'm being objective i can't pick players based on anything other than last season, if i go farther behind you'd have di maria and ribery among others.
I think he's in the top ten, but towards the end of the list. There are at least 7 players who are better than him (probably more who are better at this moment but worth less due to age, Robben, Ribery, Ibra, etc): Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Bale, Reus, Aguero, Muller.
What I like about him is his dribbling ability, amazing to watch at times. Needs to add more goals to his game though.
What I like about him is his dribbling ability, amazing to watch at times. Needs to add more goals to his game though.