would be the worst thing we could do tbh.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Its the only thing we can do now. We've passed the point of no return with our course of action, we cant now bend over for Madrid and sell him for less than they offered last time, we'd be a joke and it would cast a shadow over future dealings. We said he wasnt for sale unless the right price came in, we have to stick to that. Which is what I would want us to do anyway. But if we had wanted to play it differently, the time to do that would have been at the start of the summer.
Whenever I read the thread title I remember Pulp Fiction's "Bonnie Situation". We need a Mr. Wolf now. 
However, you could understand the latest news in the press conference as a sign that De Gea WILL stay. Maybe the club and the manager decided to keep him that one more year, not looking at Real's money, and maybe DDG is not too happy about it and lost his focus a little bit. What to do? Make clear to him that if he is not 100% focused, he will end on the bench for the next months.
It could of course also mean that he is already on his way to a medical.
However, you could understand the latest news in the press conference as a sign that De Gea WILL stay. Maybe the club and the manager decided to keep him that one more year, not looking at Real's money, and maybe DDG is not too happy about it and lost his focus a little bit. What to do? Make clear to him that if he is not 100% focused, he will end on the bench for the next months.
It could of course also mean that he is already on his way to a medical.
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If he isnt going to play because his mind isnt right, then we lose total strength in a stance. So we value him as some excellent GK and despite having only a year left, we want to be fairly compensated. Yet we arent playing him?.
Plus him staying against his will so to speak could actually anger other members of the squad including him. He does have friends clearly. Do we want to be upsetting the dressing room by keeping him this season when he wants out?. That would turn to hate and bitterness. He would become a nightmare. And at that stage it could upset other members of the team.
He wants out and we gain nothing by keeping him against his will. Get shot ASAP and find someone who does want to be the No,1 GK for the largest club in the world.
we should sell him to Atletico for peanuts
I dont really think us keeping him will anger other members of the squad.
I cant think of any examples where something like that has happened. Can anyone else offer any?
I dont think it will even bother him overly. If he really wanted out that badly it was in his power to force the issue, he chose not to. Surely the obvious conclusion to draw from that is he is happy either way?
As long as we don't lose Valdes we'll be fine for a year, at least he's a proven good keeper.
....but on bad terms with LVG. I doubt he would play him unless something changes
If I was DDG I'd be angry with Madrid over this, if they can't pay what he worth, then he really needs to question if they want him other than for the fact they thought they could get him on the cheap. If tgey truely think like most United fans do that he is going to be the best keeper in world then it should be a no brainer for them to pay up.
The fact his head isn't right tells me that they have maybe pressured him into forcing a move which he doesn't want to do, and have maybe offered him no assurances that they'll be back for him next summer if he doesn't force the move now.
The fact his head isn't right tells me that they have maybe pressured him into forcing a move which he doesn't want to do, and have maybe offered him no assurances that they'll be back for him next summer if he doesn't force the move now.
Apparently they're always falling out and making up. We should have gone all out for Oblak/Leno at the start of the window though and just sold DDG.
Agree with this, Van Gaal needs to put the team before his ego and kiss and make up with Valdes, even if it's only for a temporary period until we get the position sorted.
Pop psychology..... footballers do not think like that.
Romero to Atletico, oblak to united , ddg to Madrid. Doesn't Woody watch baseball?
you would have thought if he is going though - they'd hurry up and sort it out. It's dragging on. If you lot are going to buy Lloris or whoever, it's time to do it!
Should get his missus to relocate to Manchester....Start a Stone Roses tribute band or something.
Might have more luck there instead of cocking up to the Eurovision
Might have more luck there instead of cocking up to the Eurovision
so happy he has obviously told the club he cant or wont play against Spurs?. Van Gaal has come out with the political answer but the hard truth is probably De Gea has stated he will not feature for us again.
That is far from obvious. That is your guess as to what happened.
so everyone genuinely thinks keeping a very unhappy player, who clearly has stated he wont play for the club again, wont be bad for the dressing room? haha ok
It will take all of three games to realize Valdes is so unsuited to English football it's not even funny.
Because it makes the most sense. What would we have to gain by deliberately weakening ourselves by dropping our best GK on the eve of the new season playing a very tough Spurs side that will now be even more buoyed by this news?. Nothing is the answer. We have clearly had to do it because he has stated (probably after being spoken to about the PSG weak show) to the club that he will not play again.
Valdes cant even play. He hasnt been registered/given a Squad number. We wont use him at all and will be sold shortly.
Valdes didnt get a number btw.
Good. Although Romero isn't much better, has a fear of catching the ball that lad. I'd give Johnstone a start tomorrow personally but probably won't happen.
agreed totally. I would love for Sam to have a blinder tomorrow so we can feck of Dave and welcome a brilliant, younger, English, Homegrown player in him to the starting 11.
This is a fecking shambles.
To be fair, we have no indication that de Gea came out and said his head isn't in the right place. It appears that it is simply van Gaal's interpretation of the situation. We wouldn't get fired from our jobs if our boss thought we weren't in the right place mentally.
To me the explanation that makes the most sense is that Van Gaal thinks his focus is not quite right at the moment and has detected a drop off in his performances, and is dropping him until the matter is resolved one way or the other. Seems to me there is absolutely nothing unlikely about that at all.
Whenever I read the thread title I remember Pulp Fiction's "Bonnie Situation". We need a Mr. Wolf now.
However, you could understand the latest news in the press conference as a sign that De Gea WILL stay. Maybe the club and the manager decided to keep him that one more year, not looking at Real's money, and maybe DDG is not too happy about it and lost his focus a little bit. What to do? Make clear to him that if he is not 100% focused, he will end on the bench for the next months.
It could of course also mean that he is already on his way to a medical.
It ain't that bad yet, I hope.But we will definitely need him, if, around Christmas, Smalling, Jones, Evans And Carrick are all on the treatment table, and no DDG
Are you not aware of our very principled manager who demands players are 100% to play??
You think the board would force him to play DDG to ensure our bargaining position? LvG doesn't involve himself in that, its just as 'obvious' that he sees a player with other concerns and doesn't see him as 100
DeGea has never shown mental weakness since he's been here. LvG is always going on about his principles.
what better way to regain his focus than throw him into the Spurs game, he gets bombarded with shots because Blind is infront of him, he gets cheered when his name is read out (even though there shouldnt be any)?.
Its 50/50 imo on both our opinions. Maybe its abit of both of them. Either way, we set ourselves up for this problem by not resolving this weeks ago. Lets hope it doesnt negatively affect our Season start.
well he sure showed it against PSG?. Pulled out of everything, didnt want to injure himself before his Madrid move, didnt seem motivated, didnt seem bothered. Where is the mental strength people speak of?. He had it.....then his head was turned by Madrid. Now he wouldnt piss on us if we were on fire.
If you turned up to your job on Monday morning and told your boss that you couldn't do any work because you're head wasn't right due to you wanting to change jobs, what would his/her reaction be?
De Gea has never stated that.
If the rumour is true that Madrid would rather wait until next season and get De gea on a free it makes sense to drop him in order to regain focus.
Perfect wake up call for him he doesn't strike me as the type that would like to sit about on the bench especially when he will be hoping to become spains first choice keeper in the upcoming euros.
His time spent dwelling about it on the bench will hopefully cause him to play his heart out this season for us when called upon by LVG if he knows that he won't just be selected out of necessity.
Perfect wake up call for him he doesn't strike me as the type that would like to sit about on the bench especially when he will be hoping to become spains first choice keeper in the upcoming euros.
His time spent dwelling about it on the bench will hopefully cause him to play his heart out this season for us when called upon by LVG if he knows that he won't just be selected out of necessity.
I mean I think him and his agent have said this to the club. I dont mean he popped into the Daily Mirror and was fed donuts for a story.
or...... it will push him out more, upset him more and make him lose more focus?. With how pathetic and weak these 10 year players are these days, Im inclined to think this way.
Theirs no way we will have dropped him if he was in a fit state to play. We know this will be our last season with him if he stays so I'd say the only reason he's been dropped is if he really needs kicked in to touch. We don't have anything to lose if that is the case.
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