True, but I simply refuse to believe that he will let his performances drop. For heavens sake, he is a professional footballer doing what he loves while earning a lot of money for it. He also knows he can go home next summer for free. He's 24, with something like 10 years remaining of his career. If he can't manage to do his best for, the how is he going to fare at at Madrid...
De Gea Contract Situation
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True, but I simply refuse to believe that he will let his performances drop. For heavens sake, he is a professional footballer doing what he loves while earning a lot of money for it. He also knows he can go home next summer for free. He's 24, with something like 10 years remaining of his career. If he can't manage to do his best for, the how is he going to fare at at Madrid...
He is completely underestimating what it'd be like at Madrid imo. He will have no support if he's going through a bad patch. I don't understand his thinking at all. What an absolute mess.
What a fecking mess...
If he's not leaving what do we do? Do we buy a new GK or we risk going with him as the main GK and hope he gets his shit together? The season is starting tomorrow and we don't know who is our main GK.
If he's not leaving what do we do? Do we buy a new GK or we risk going with him as the main GK and hope he gets his shit together? The season is starting tomorrow and we don't know who is our main GK.
I reckon its DDG missus that's wecking his head.
For all we know maybe he isn't ready to play because he's so torn over what to do?
From the sounds of it his girlfriend wants to go home to Madrid. But we've read most of the summer that he was torn. Maybe a part of him wants to stay? But the other part wants to go home with his girlfriend and play for Madrid!
Maybe for that reason he went to LVG and said he still needs time to decide? And that's why the club are yet to sign a replacement despite the situation being dire without him. Perhaps a warm reception at OT tomorrow will convince him to stay.
Just trying to be positive.
From the sounds of it his girlfriend wants to go home to Madrid. But we've read most of the summer that he was torn. Maybe a part of him wants to stay? But the other part wants to go home with his girlfriend and play for Madrid!
Maybe for that reason he went to LVG and said he still needs time to decide? And that's why the club are yet to sign a replacement despite the situation being dire without him. Perhaps a warm reception at OT tomorrow will convince him to stay.
Just trying to be positive.
He won't be there tomorrow though?
Who said that? He won't play no but maybe he'll be there with the team or in the stands?
Wishful thinking,he's had ages to decide.
Wasn't at the Lowry tonight so I'd be surprised if he's there. Not like the crowd would notice if he's in the stands anyway, plus we've chanted his name as a request to stay enough already.
Never been in a relationship where you just can't decide what to do for the best? On the one hand your current girlfriend has stood by you, loved you and made you feel great. On the other there is this stunner that wants you but she's not yet gone all out to get you.
LVG seems to be as undecided as DDG now...ffs the decision should have been made months ago.
The season is about to start so everyone should be focused on Spurs...who cares about DDG, LVG or Madrid!
The season is about to start so everyone should be focused on Spurs...who cares about DDG, LVG or Madrid!
I don't know, I find it hard to believe that he's not in the right frame of mind to play. He's been a professional throughout this ordeal, keeping his mouth shut and doing what has been asked of him. We've seen countless examples of want away players who have no problem telling the world they want to leave. We didn't have that with De Gea. Real Madrid will have been in contact with his representatives and he'll know that he will be a Real Madrid player the question is only when. Personally I think Real prefer to wait until next summer and get him for free. When Real Madrid want you, it's a full court press and everyone associated with the club will be speaking your name and that hasn't happened.
He made some uncharacteristic mistakes against PSG, but he looked perfectly fine against Barcelona. Goalkeepers make mistakes. Schmeichel made quite a few and Van der Sar had that one against West Brom.
He made some uncharacteristic mistakes against PSG, but he looked perfectly fine against Barcelona. Goalkeepers make mistakes. Schmeichel made quite a few and Van der Sar had that one against West Brom.
From LVGs interview it looks like he wants to go but Real won't pay what we ask.
Spot on for me. Doesn't look good but then it never did.
We should write down in players contracts that they can never leave for Real and Barca, don't know if that is possible though :P
OK if I was Woodward (and a bit of evil) after RM's refusal to pay up I would keep him and threaten him to be on the bench the whole year (and thus missing out on the Euros completely) unless he signs an extension with a 25 mil € release clause. This way RM can pay their low preferred money, but next summer.
(Yes yes I know not going to happen and not the nicest thing to do, but would be hilarious)
(Yes yes I know not going to happen and not the nicest thing to do, but would be hilarious)
I don't understand what the hurry is on DeGea's part. Less than 6 months from now he will be able to sign his pre-contract with them and then leave for free. Why not enjoy yourself until then? He has friends on the team, people treat him well at the club, and he's been paid well to do the thing he loves - so what's the hurry?
Too low. If he signed an extension, a proper fee would have to be included. What you suggest is what I would have done - but a year ago. Make it clear what our terms will be and it's up to him to play ball. Too late now unfortunately.
Surprises me that none of those higher-ups at United did not realise that something was up once he turned down the contract extension the 2nd time. Would have been clear it wasn't a money issue or someone else has already tapped him up. Instead we kept thinking if we show him more 'love' he'll eventually come around. Bad mistake. Never trust anyone - especially in football.
I am not the biggest fan of LVG, but for some reason he seems to distrust DDG and we must have some respect for his decision given his experience. DDG has looked like a superstar in front of a very average defense, so he gets more than he fair share of work to do. He certainly aint a Schmeichel in the way he could command the defense (and team).
He is not proven at the sharper end of the Champions League. Still a bit of a risk for me.
Agree, strange stuff.
I don't see how we can get out of this situation on top.
It's obvious he wants to join Madrid. As a result, he's not focused and lvg is right to drop him IMO.
It seems Real doesn't want to pay what we demand, what was quite obvious from the start - they want him, but they don't need him right now. They hold all the cards.
If we refuse to sell, we might end up with an unmotivated player in essential position. Madrid will wait another year and get him for free. If we sell we will pay loads of money for a replacement which won't be half as good.
It looks pretty shit for us, like most on here predicted.
It's obvious he wants to join Madrid. As a result, he's not focused and lvg is right to drop him IMO.
It seems Real doesn't want to pay what we demand, what was quite obvious from the start - they want him, but they don't need him right now. They hold all the cards.
If we refuse to sell, we might end up with an unmotivated player in essential position. Madrid will wait another year and get him for free. If we sell we will pay loads of money for a replacement which won't be half as good.
It looks pretty shit for us, like most on here predicted.
It's strange what's going on. It really is. Madrid have unsettled our player and I think that reflects poorly on them and it reflects poorly on David. It would do no one any good David cleaning the toilets next season as a result of him being a man child and Madrid being scrooge. The fact is Madrid, and Perez think they have some God given right and they don't so they're going to have to endure paying the fee or going away. When the time comes, if Ramos is an honest man, we will take their captain away from them. As for Davids agent - I think most people would have a low opinion of him.
Are Woodward and van Gaal on the same page? I was delighted we played hard ball all summer but now it looks utterly foolish if the boss doesn't intend to play him.
Heaven forbid!
I know! and I hope his Greek island sinks lol
If they were not then LVG would be gone.
This is a farce now. Just sell him if we wont even play him.
I love this. Our choice of keeper for the season opener boils down to which debutante speaks the same language as Phil Jones.
so turns out Perez does not wank over him enough to want to cough up right? so don't cry when it inevitably sours later down the road
so don't cry when it inevitably sours later down the roadMaybe his girlfriend has more influence on him than we think. Didn't she say some bad stuff about Manchester as a city?
The w----- has also hinted about "things easier if in Madrid" recently
Fairly certain that was a fake quote. Or it was twisted around to make it sound the way the media wanted it to.
At this point it seems like De Gea wants the Real Madrid move more than Real Madrid want him. What we're asking for (fees) is definitely reasonable, and I don't understand why Real have let it drag on.
The presenter of a Tv show asked "someone told me that Manchester is uglier that the back of a fridge" and she answered "muy bonita no es, esa es la verdad..." (it´s not very pretty,that´s the truth, you have to look for specific places". She was trying to avoid all the questions related to David
Our only leverage at this point is to (threaten to) put him on ice for the whole season: we won't communicate with Madrid and he won't play with the first team. He won't be Spain's #1 for the tournament and will have lost his sharpness for Madrid after a year off. That is, unless he changes his tune and starts working with this club to help us negotiate a mutually beneficial exit for him.
Mendes & DeGea have been cunning and clever - why can't we do the same?
I think that Madrid wants De Gea just as much as he wants them. He's the heir apparent to Saint Iker in the Spanish national team, and Madrid clearly want that at club level as well. The simple reality is, they have most of the leverage. They seem comfortable with their goalkeeping options, even with Casilas' exit. They know De Gea, his family, his girlfriend and his agent all want the transfer to happen. They're very well aware that De Gea only has one year left on his deal, and that they can sign him to a pre-contract agreement in six months time. Aside from Ramos, none of their players have angled for a move in the other direction. As far as Ramos is concerned, logic suggests that he's simply been maneuvering for an improved deal - one which he'll likely get. To top it off, De Gea is seemingly badly distracted by all of it, resulting in a drop in his performance level and a major distraction for the club on the eve of the new season.
The only footing United has is the prospect of keeping De Gea for the season and letting him leave for free next summer. That said, Madrid will know that, principles aside, United won't want to lose him for nothing, and certainly won't want this cloud hanging over them all season. I believe they're prepared to wait, rather than overpay (in their minds). Madrid will know that, even if we refuse to sell him, De Gea won't want to risk his place in the national team in advance of the Euros, and that he'll knuckle down and work hard. Quite frankly, even if we parked him in the reserves all season, I really don't think they'd care. De Gea would be the one incurring all the risk by riding out the last year if his contract, not Madrid.
In my mind, the most likely outcome is that Madrid up their offer by a very moderate amount as the transfer window winds down, and we let him go. I can't see us getting more than around 20M pounds for him. I sure hope I'm wrong!
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Agreed,good post
He doesn't mistrust DDG. He is fighting hard to keep him. All he has done is told DDG, I know its tough for you personally. But as a club, we can't be selling our top player to Madrid without extracting our pound of flesh (in this case, a top player in exchange and not money). If RM don't do that, we can't let you go. Till then, maybe it's better you deal with the personal aspect and we won't put you on the spotlight.
Performing at his level does require a lot of focus and concentration.
I think it is a great way to deal with it.
Does anyone hate him more than AdM? We helped him iron all mistakes and he does not even sign a contract like Ronaldo/Bale/Suarez so we get a load of cash.
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