De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season


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LVG definitely seems to be working this situation to turn us against DDG. There seems to be conflicted reports from both camps. If he wants to play then and it comes out in the end that his head was fine then there's going to be some unhappy united fans including myself.

To be honest I've made my Support clear for DDG because I can't and won't criticise a guy for wanting to return to his home city. And anyone who really thought he was going to stay at united for a decade or so were kidding themselves.
 
Van Gaal has created intentionally a problem of confidence between the player and the staff,I say something and he is blaffed and disagree.Meanwhile the press pro Madrid begins to talk about the pressure that David is holding,his big wish of playing here,suggesting that Florentino has not been totally fair with him,that is,the start of the #freeDeGea. This saga changes every 2 days but today I'd say that Madrid will rise the offer
 
DDG could have a big problem if RM doesn't offer enough and he has to stay. Now Romero is doing rather well so he would only be on the bench. We all know the "process" so that means he has to wait and wait until he gets his chance again. Maybe he won't play for a long time
 
I say we offer him to Barcelona for less than what we want from Madrid. Go to barce or rot for the year. Mainly to pee off Madrid.
 
DDG could have a big problem if RM doesn't offer enough and he has to stay. Now Romero is doing rather well so he would only be on the bench. We all know the "process" so that means he has to wait and wait until he gets his chance again. Maybe he won't play for a long time

If De Gea ends up staying this season, he should obviously play. He is without a doubt the superior Keeper. The chances of launching a title challenge are clearly higher with De Gea than with Romero.

I say we offer him to Barcelona for less than what we want from Madrid. Go to barce or rot for the year. Mainly to pee off Madrid.

Thats a nice way to treat your best player (by a mile) of the last two seasons. Hell, he is the main reason why you can enjoy CL football again.

From a neutral perspective this all seems to have turned out to be an unsightly mess.

De Gea wants to return to his homeland and play for one of the biggest clubs in football. He would probably rather do it this season than the next. The central question here is, if De Gea has actually done something until now to question his professionalism to perform on a good level in the upcoming season for United.

Van Gaals recent statements about him contradict quite a lot of previous signals in this matter, which to be fair seem to change nearly daily. Not playing him until this matter is resolved is reasonable. Publically pointing out his unwillingness to play (which was denied by De Gea on the same day) and bascially painting a target on the players back is different and screams for me power move to force the De Gea camp and Real Madrid to comply to Uniteds wishes. This might work out in his favour or could backfire badly by alienating De Gea and basically wasting one of the best Keeper in the game for a pretty important season.

Now, if we would talk about a club who would desperately need the (wanted) money of this transfer, I would have more understanding for Van Gaals actions, but for a club who could easily handle running down De Gea´s contract and then buy a replacement with net spend this seems to be motivated by pride more than anything else.
 
If he is still here in September he should be the GK. If we let him rot in the reserves we are only punishing ourselves.
 
Anyone see tonight what happened with him on twitter ? Some Mutd fan tweeted him "@D_Dgea needs to learn he is at the biggest club in the world" and he favourited it, it got attention and he then un favourited it, what to take from that ? Dont have a clue just thought I would mention it
 
Anyone see tonight what happened with him on twitter ? Some Mutd fan tweeted him "@D_Dgea needs to learn he is at the biggest club in the world" and he favourited it, it got attention and he then un favourited it, what to take from that ? Dont have a clue just thought I would mention it

Well maybe Edurne entered the room and ordered him to click it again,with warning that it better not happen again.
 
Anyone see tonight what happened with him on twitter ? Some Mutd fan tweeted him "@D_Dgea needs to learn he is at the biggest club in the world" and he favourited it, it got attention and he then un favourited it, what to take from that ? Dont have a clue just thought I would mention it
Easily done whilst scrolling through his thousands of mentions. Nothing in it I bet.
 
Anyone see tonight what happened with him on twitter ? Some Mutd fan tweeted him "@D_Dgea needs to learn he is at the biggest club in the world" and he favourited it, it got attention and he then un favourited it, what to take from that ? Dont have a clue just thought I would mention it
Very possible that it was an accident. It just takes one tap on your phone to favourite a tweet.
 
Keep him we dont need the 20m. He is the best keeper in the world. If he doesnt perform he doesnt play in the euros. Gives us a year to find a replacement.

Sergio romero isnt good enough valdes is better johnstones to young.. de gea leaving could hurt us more than ronaldo going. With de gea that defense could do without him we need stam and rio back lol..
 
Might be hard for him to win his place back if he is still here after the window closes.
 
I'm a huge fan of his, but what's best for United?

Two matchdays ago I couldn't imagine what problems we'd be facing if he didn't start for us. After 2 games with Romero a solid defence and midfield my attitude has changed a bit. I'm not as worried as I was.

Should he get the blank check and start as soon as the transfer window closes? I don't think so. If our team manages to gel well, why would we change it? I'd rather not change a winning system.
 
If he wants to play then and it comes out in the end that his head was fine then there's going to be some unhappy united fans including myself.

How would it ever be possible to determine if his head was fine or not?
 

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Several of United’s players, in particular the Spanish-speaking contingent, are said to be perplexed by Van Gaal’s decision to alienate De Gea, a popular figure in the dressing room.
Who said that though? Mere speculation. If the manager wants to prepare team for the season and there is someone who wants to leave, the manager have every right to drop him. Footballing culture is far more forgiving for players than for managers.
 
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Who said that though? Mere speculation. If the manager wants to prepare team for the season and there is someone who wants to leave, the manager have every right to drop him. Footballing culture is far more forgiving for players than for managers.

Funny isnt it. De Gea wants to leave but yet its the manager getting blamed for alienating him.

I can not for one second believe that LVG stopped him signing an extension by the way. Why the hell would we want to run a risk of being in the current situation simply because LVG didnt fancy him. It makes zero financial sense and its probably just his camp talking shit.
 
Cillessen will probably end up costing more than we manage to flog De Gea for. It's all a bit of a mess and should really have been resolved by now.
 
Funny isnt it. De Gea wants to leave but yet its the manager getting blamed for alienating him.

I can not for one second believe that LVG stopped him signing an extension by the way. Why the hell would we want to run a risk of being in the current situation simply because LVG didnt fancy him. It makes zero financial sense and its probably just his camp talking shit.
Exactly. With all the balague tweets coming up saying things about him wanting to extend the contract and LvG denying it along with bunch of other craps seems to be basically his agent speaking, considering AdM farewell letter to us also came via him. Also, didn't LvG came around last spring saying the club had offered him a good contract and it was player who was refusing to sign it. Considering no contract has been signed, it is fair to assume who wanted to leave rather than who was forced to leave.

If De Gea's head was not turned by his desire to join madrid, I don't think any of this would have come up. Basically, its the player wanting to leave that is creating this scene. Manager has every right to deal with whatever way he sees fit with the player who by refusing to sign a new contract is admitting to wanting to leave.
 
Press are having a field day, take everything with a pinch of salt... vultures
 


Strange article. This line is baffling when you think about what it actually means:

His camp are at pains to point out that, out of respect to the United supporters, he has not followed the leads of Raheem Sterling or Angel di Maria in publicly agitating for a move.


Firstly, the rather unsubtle indication that De Gea's "camp" have been feeding info to the Mail in exchange for a positive article. In journalistic terms, "at pains to point out" = "told us to write this"

Secondly, the notion that not publicly pushing for a move is some how more respectful to supporters than privately pushing for a move. Makes perfect sense you think? Wrong. It's PR bullshit and people are lapping it up. It's not out of respect for supporters, it's to win public opinion. Everyone knows he's pushing for a move but as long as he doesn't come out and say so supporters are supposed to praise his behaviour? "Yeah he's pushing for a move away, but he is doing it privately and not telling us that's he's pushing for a move away so it's fine - now if he were to tell me he was pushing for a move I would be so disappointed with him!" Not to mention articles like this one that have blatantly been spoon fed to the Mail by De Gea's "camp" to put pressure on United - a far far FAR more dubious and deceitful behavior than publicly stating a desire to leave, yet people fall for it time and time and time again. It genuinely makes me angry how easily people can be manipulated by the press and PR-sociopaths.

Alright, you can put foreword the counter point that by publicly agitating for a move De Gea would lower United's negotiating power and could force a move through quicker/cheaper for Real, but honestly does anyone really believe that is what's stopping De Gea from giving a public statement? If so you live in cloud fecking cuckoo land. The only reason a public statement hasn't been given is because it would damage De Gea's reputation/status that his PR team strive to maintain and bolster. With the clock ticking down to the end of the window we will soon see how little of a shit anyone from De Gea's camp gives about how much money United get from Real - they will do whatever it takes to push it through, starting with these type of articles where they feed the scum press their shit nuggets of controversy, and if that doesn't work you can guarantee there will be a very blatant and obvious public push for a move before September 1st.

I'm not having a go at De Gea at all, his PR team yes. The thing I'd most like to see is De Gea give a statement saying something like: "I want to move to Madrid, but if a deal can not be agreed this summer I will happily stay at United and do my best to go out on a high and help United win the league, it's a great club I that I respect and appreciate, but for personal reasons I would prefer to live in Madrid" - this is the only way that I would think he's being professional, respectful of and honest to the supporters. But it won't happen. Instead we won't get a statement until after the window, and whichever club De Gea is at it will be a bland, unoffensive, media-friendly, characterless, meaningless, box-ticking, information-less, disingenuous, cliched statement of nothingness in order to avoid any potential negative public opinion. And people will lap it up, because people are stupid and like living in their little bubbles where they get told what is good and respectable and what is bad and what they should get offended by.
 
So what if LvG did have reservations about DDG when he first became the United boss! I think LvG has shown DDG over his first season that those initial reservations were wrong and in no way would he want rid of him. DDG is just using this as a reason not to sign a contract ffs, as it isn't like he wasn't played last season was it? And it isn't like LvG didn't praise him the entire season either is it? feck a duck, if those reports are true then DDG is acting a wee bit precious.

I remember an an article about RvP when LvG just took over, the article mentioned how when LvG became the Netherlands coach, he dropped RvP in favour of Huntelaar, yet RvP didn't cry about it he got his head down and made him see the error of his ways.
 
Cillessen will probably end up costing more than we manage to flog De Gea for. It's all a bit of a mess and should really have been resolved by now.

The only way it could have been resolved by now is if we had accepted one of Real's really low offers, and then people would be moaning about how we sold him for so cheap. I'd rather keep him for an extra season and I expect the club would too, therefore the resolution is not possible until September 2nd because that's when the ordeal will be complete. So do please enlighten us all on what resolution SHOULD have occurred by now, I'm sure it will be brilliant.

I hate this bloody attitude that people have that complicated things "SHOULD" be done quickly/smoothly/in a way that pleases them. It's so fecking self-centred. I want this, it should be done. I don't like that, it should have been done different. This frustrates me, it should be resolved.
 
So what if LvG did have reservations about DDG when he first became the United boss! I think LvG has shown DDG over his first season that those initial reservations were wrong and in no way would he want rid of him. DDG is just using this as a reason not to sign a contract ffs, as it isn't like he wasn't played last season was it? And it isn't like LvG didn't praise him the entire season either is it? feck a duck, if those reports are true then DDG is acting a wee bit precious.

I remember an an article about RvP when LvG just took over, the article mentioned how when LvG became the Netherlands coach, he dropped RvP in favour of Huntelaar, yet RvP didn't cry about it he got his head down and made him see the error of his ways.

Exactly. Heaven forbid a footballer have to prove themselves to a new Manager.
 
I'm not having a go at De Gea at all, his PR team yes. The thing I'd most like to see is De Gea give a statement saying something like: "I want to move to Madrid, but if a deal can not be agreed this summer I will happily stay at United and do my best to go out on a high and help United win the league, it's a great club I that I respect and appreciate, but for personal reasons I would prefer to live in Madrid" - this is the only way that I would think he's being professional, respectful of and honest to the supporters. But it won't happen. Instead we won't get a statement until after the window, and whichever club De Gea is at it will be a bland, unoffensive, media-friendly, characterless, meaningless, box-ticking, information-less, disingenuous, cliched statement of nothingness in order to avoid any potential negative public opinion. And people will lap it up, because people are stupid and like living in their little bubbles where they get told what is good and respectable and what is bad and what they should get offended by.


And you left it out that if De Gea said any of that, then he would lose his sweet, sweet millions of 'loyalty payments'.

Are our Spanish speaking players really this stupid? They, honestly, do not understand why De Gea is not playing? If they actually do not understand, we may need to IQ test our signings.

The article is insulting to the intelligence of the reader.
 


Well this can't be true.
LVG was playing DDG in every single game, he could play him in.
Furthermore, during the sale/negotiation with Madrid, LVG has repeatedly said he wants them to pay a World record fee for a GK.
LVG absolutely understands that we have the best GK in the World and he is fighting tooth and nail to prevent him from leaving...even if it means we allow him to leave on a free next year (which most clubs would never allow).
 
It's funny and strange how many fans blame "the manager" or "the camp" of a player. As if De Gea is just a passive and helpless passenger of what's happening.
 
how can he train with the first team when they were away for a game? This de gea pity party that looks clearly orchestrated by mendes should not fool anyone...anf the Lvg thing not trusting him, he played him every single game last season....even in the cups....its easy to take shots now, but ddg probably made his mind to go long before lvg got here...its suprising that the thing about lvg being the reason for him not signing only appear now all of a sudden..
 
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