Harry Kane - 2015/16 performances

19 league goals, top of the scoring list. Great player. Fergie would definitely try to get him
 
19 league goals, top of the scoring list. Great player. Fergie would definitely try to get him

I'd thought the same about Bale but it seemed like he didn't show an interest (despite Giggs being in the know for him?).

I think dealing with Levy put him off and I'd think it's the same, if we try in the summer.
 
Fantastic player and still very young.
I can't see him leaving Tottenham this summer and despite the fact that I would love him at United I think it would be best if we looked towards Goodison for our new striker.
 
Think he'll hang around at Spurs until they are on a downward spiral. They should be looking to build a great side around his qualities.
 
Great player, no question about it.

Question: Who's the better striker, him or Lukaku? Same age, almost identical numbers this season.

Hard to pick one for me. I've watched more of Kane, and think he might edge it for me right now. But I also have this feeling that Lukaku could yet have another level in him, becoming nigh on unplayable (insert lazy Drogba-at-his-peak comparison to illustrate). Either way, I think it's hard to pick one of the two right now, and it's a coin toss who will go on to become the better player in time.

For United, I think Lukaku's a far more realistic target, even though I believe we should go all out to get England's star man (which I believe Kane will be for the next five plus years).
 
With 19 league goals he's well on course to exceed last seasons total of 21. However, he'll have to get his skates on - 9 more goals required in the probable remaining 9 games - to match last season's total of 31 in all competitions.
 
Great player, no question about it.

Question: Who's the better striker, him or Lukaku? Same age, almost identical numbers this season.

Hard to pick one for me. I've watched more of Kane, and think he might edge it for me right now. But I also have this feeling that Lukaku could yet have another level in him, becoming nigh on unplayable (insert lazy Drogba-at-his-peak comparison to illustrate). Either way, I think it's hard to pick one of the two right now, and it's a coin toss who will go on to become the better player in time.

For United, I think Lukaku's a far more realistic target, even though I believe we should go all out to get England's star man (which I believe Kane will be for the next five plus years).
Kane without a doubt IMO. Lukaku is good, but Kane is a lot better on the ball and has more to his game, while Lukaku I feel is more of a target man without having the overall hold up and build up play that Kane has.
 
It's ironic that Kane always gets praised for being better on and with the ball than Lukaku and Lukaku is praised for being more of a goalscorer yet Kane has better conversion rate stats this season and Lukaku has better chance creation stats. Obviously stats aren't the be all and end all but i don't think there is much between them, if anything at all. I think we are incredibly lucky to have two of the most complete young strikers in the world in the league right now with barely any negatives to their respective abilities.
 
It's ironic that Kane always gets praised for being better on and with the ball than Lukaku and Lukaku is praised for being more of a goalscorer yet Kane has better conversion rate stats this season and Lukaku has better chance creation stats. Obviously stats aren't the be all and end all but i don't think there is much between them, if anything at all. I think we are incredibly lucky to have two of the most complete young strikers in the world in the league right now with barely any negatives to their respective abilities.
I guess Lukaku's goalscoring abilities are more lauded because he has the larger sample size, maybe? He did it at Anderlecht at a young age, then had two successful loans at both West Brom and Everton before his permanent move and picked up where he left off, whilst Kane has only had two - albeit very fruitful - scoring seasons. I think it may also just be more of a stylistic thing - Kane isn't necessarily slow, but a lot less mobile than Lukaku so it does give the impression to many that he's more of a link-up man, whilst Lukaku can come across to the neutral as a more physical threat willing to run in and finish off attacks that he lets those behind him create.
 
It's ironic that Kane always gets praised for being better on and with the ball than Lukaku and Lukaku is praised for being more of a goalscorer yet Kane has better conversion rate stats this season and Lukaku has better chance creation stats. Obviously stats aren't the be all and end all but i don't think there is much between them, if anything at all. I think we are incredibly lucky to have two of the most complete young strikers in the world in the league right now with barely any negatives to their respective abilities.
they are very complete it's amazing for their age, and spot on they are very similar, both great headers, Lukaku edges Kane in body strength and hold up play even though Kane's great at it as well, Lukaku is a bit faster, Kane works a bit harder and is better shooter from longer range and maybe a bit better in terms of positioning, the ball always seem to find him but overall they are very similar and I don't think there is no real difference in dribbling quality, Lukaku's ball ability is underrated on the ball IMO, he's just so massive and might look a bit clumsy but he's pretty good dribbler.

I would like Kane more as he seems a bit more versatile, creative, intelligent has a bit of vision too, I believe he could play as goalscoring no10 or as a second striker as well ,whereas lukaku is just a targetman, that beast up front. Realistically we have now very little chance to get him. Lukaku is just waiting to be snatched, I think he's no benteke
 
Kane is now Spurs highest ever league goals-scorer in a single season in the Prem era. He already matches Rooney's total to date of 20+ league goal seasons (two), and has now matched the same total of 20+ seasons achieved by Aguero, RvP, Drogba.

There are only four players in the history of the Premier League who have hit that 20-goal mark more than twice in their careers: Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Les Ferdinand ... but not one of them had done it even once by the same age.
 
Kane is now Spurs highest ever league goals-scorer in a single season in the Prem era. He already matches Rooney's total to date of 20+ league goal seasons (two), and has now matched the same total of 20+ seasons achieved by Aguero, RvP, Drogba.

There are only four players in the history of the Premier League who have hit that 20-goal mark more than twice in their careers: Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Les Ferdinand ... but not one of them had done it even once by the same age.
That's impressive whatever way you look at it. Kane has a big future ahead.
 
It's ironic that Kane always gets praised for being better on and with the ball than Lukaku and Lukaku is praised for being more of a goalscorer yet Kane has better conversion rate stats this season and Lukaku has better chance creation stats. Obviously stats aren't the be all and end all but i don't think there is much between them, if anything at all. I think we are incredibly lucky to have two of the most complete young strikers in the world in the league right now with barely any negatives to their respective abilities.
Kane is better than Lukaku on the ball but he's incredibly selfish so doesn't create all that much.
 
I think he creates a lot. His hold up play and lay offs are streets ahead of Lukaku's.
His hold up play is quality, but not his lay offs, especially this season. After holding the play up he'd rather create space for the shot, even if its at an unfavourable distance than put someone in. Precisely the reason his numbers are low in terms of chance creation and assists.
 
Kane is now Spurs highest ever league goals-scorer in a single season in the Prem era. He already matches Rooney's total to date of 20+ league goal seasons (two), and has now matched the same total of 20+ seasons achieved by Aguero, RvP, Drogba.

There are only four players in the history of the Premier League who have hit that 20-goal mark more than twice in their careers: Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Les Ferdinand ... but not one of them had done it even once by the same age.

I'm confused by your first paragraph. Have they all scored 20+ league goals twice? Very impressive from Kane when the other players probably featured in better teams.

Apart from being stronger I don't see an area where Lukaku is better than Kane. Kane all day long.
 
I'm confused by your first paragraph. Have they all scored 20+ league goals twice? Very impressive from Kane when the other players probably featured in better teams.

Apart from being stronger I don't see an area where Lukaku is better than Kane. Kane all day long.

Yes, Kane, Rooney, Aguero, RvP and Drogba all have two 20+ league-goal seasons, but Kane is the youngest player in the Prem era to have achieved that.
 
Kane by miles over Lukaku, but I don't see Kane being a realistic target for United. Harry genuinely loves his club, which WILL be in the CL next season and he's got a great thing going with his manager. There's simply no reason for Harry to leave Spurs for United.
 
Kane is an interesting player but so is Lukaku. I don't want to say too much since we're playing Spurs at the weekend lol. Kane is doing what he was doing at youth levels BUT he's 22/23 so he's taken some time. Some people were quick to write him off earlier in the season and maybe he will always be a slow starter? Only time will tell.
 
they are very complete it's amazing for their age, and spot on they are very similar, both great headers, Lukaku edges Kane in body strength and hold up play even though Kane's great at it as well, Lukaku is a bit faster, Kane works a bit harder and is better shooter from longer range and maybe a bit better in terms of positioning, the ball always seem to find him but overall they are very similar and I don't think there is no real difference in dribbling quality, Lukaku's ball ability is underrated on the ball IMO, he's just so massive and might look a bit clumsy but he's pretty good dribbler.

I would like Kane more as he seems a bit more versatile, creative, intelligent has a bit of vision too, I believe he could play as goalscoring no10 or as a second striker as well ,whereas lukaku is just a targetman, that beast up front. Realistically we have now very little chance to get him. Lukaku is just waiting to be snatched, I think he's no benteke
Despite these attributes he has 1 assist to Lukaku's 6 and less chances created for team mates? I agree he is more versatile but don't underestimate Lukaku's impact on his teammates
 
Kane by miles over Lukaku, but I don't see Kane being a realistic target for United. Harry genuinely loves his club, which WILL be in the CL next season and he's got a great thing going with his manager. There's simply no reason for Harry to leave Spurs for United.
Why is it by miles? His work rate is the only aspect that perhaps is vastly superior and that may be offset by Lukaku's superior physical attributes. Kane has far more goals from set pieces also including 5 penalties. Kane is as overrated as Lukaku is underrated. I feel Kane is better but most certainly not by miles.
 
Why is it by miles? His work rate is the only aspect that perhaps is vastly superior and that may be offset by Lukaku's superior physical attributes. Kane has far more goals from set pieces also including 5 penalties. Kane is as overrated as Lukaku is underrated. I feel Kane is better but most certainly not by miles.

Kane is comfortably better. He's a better dribbler, his link up play is far superior, his range of finishing is higher, his first touch is better, and he works harder for the team.

I rate Lukaku but think he'd suffer more than Kane with playing against stubborn defences in a United shirt. Lucky requires a more direct style of play, whereas Kane is comfortable with waiting for his moments and even drops off a little to get more involved when necessary. He's good with his back to goal and run the channels well.
 
Kane is comfortably better. He's a better dribbler, his link up play is far superior, his range of finishing is higher, his first touch is better, and he works harder for the team.

I rate Lukaku but think he'd suffer more than Kane with playing against stubborn defences in a United shirt. Lucky requires a more direct style of play, whereas Kane is comfortable with waiting for his moments and even drops off a little to get more involved when necessary. He's good with his back to goal and run the channels well.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. As someone pointes out, Kane link up leads to zilch opportunites for his team mates and no assists so it seems kind of fruitless. Lukaku is bigger and as strong in the air. Their dribbling is marginally different in standard. And Kane has probably scored no more screamers than Lukaku. They score similar goals. I like the way you call him Lucky too.
This video below isn't to show off his goal scoring, just to remind you that he plays similar and can do what Kane does in terms of link up play, playing back to goal and mobility around the pitch. It just goes unnoticed for some reason as if he is just some brainless wilderbeast that's all physique and no intelligence where as Kane is this master thinker and all rounder.

 
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Kane is now Spurs highest ever league goals-scorer in a single season in the Prem era. He already matches Rooney's total to date of 20+ league goal seasons (two), and has now matched the same total of 20+ seasons achieved by Aguero, RvP, Drogba.

There are only four players in the history of the Premier League who have hit that 20-goal mark more than twice in their careers: Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Les Ferdinand ... but not one of them had done it even once by the same age.

How many did Bale get?
 
How many did Bale get?

He scored 20+ league goals (21 in fact) in his last season at Spurs, but that was the only time.

Edit: but of course he wasn't playing as a striker, so those 21 league goals were all the more impressive.
 
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Bale was an all round Monster though playing wide but driving the ball through teams, even scoring goals from runs he made near the halfway line. And those 40 yarders :eek:
 
That's an impressive tally.
 
Why is it by miles? His work rate is the only aspect that perhaps is vastly superior and that may be offset by Lukaku's superior physical attributes. Kane has far more goals from set pieces also including 5 penalties. Kane is as overrated as Lukaku is underrated. I feel Kane is better but most certainly not by miles.

"By miles" may not be fair to Lukaku, but the way I would rephrase it that Kane would be a clearly preferable addition to United than Lukaku.

Fellaini has incredible "physical attributes" but what that really accomplish for us? Very little.

Kane is a fantastic striker of the ball and doesn't need to rely on physical attributes, a perishable quality, to beat his defender. I wouldn't mind having both players on the squad, Lukaku as Kane's backup, but since we have promising young talents in Martial and Rashford (and maybe Wilson comes good) there's no need for us to bring in Lukaku as well as Kane.

But Kane isn't coming to United and if we're short on other options (no Zlatan, etc.), Lukaku would be an acceptable fallback option to strengthen the forward line.
 
Bales last season at spurs is still probably the most impressive run of form ive seen in the prem for a very long time.
 
Bales last season at spurs is still probably the most impressive run of form ive seen in the prem for a very long time.

Gold123 asked about Suarez, rightly so. But I'll go one better and ask about De Gea.

We haven't seen a keeper this dominant in the league since Schmeichel and a very strong case can be made that he's the top keeper on the planet now. Not only that, De Gea has been by far the most important player for United for the last three seasons. He hasn't had as much to do this season as last but his cabinet of incredible saves over the last four seasons tops anything Bale did for Spurs IMHO.
 
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. As someone pointes out, Kane link up leads to zilch opportunites for his team mates and no assists so it seems kind of fruitless. Lukaku is bigger and as strong in the air. Their dribbling is marginally different in standard. And Kane has probably scored no more screamers than Lukaku. They score similar goals. I like the way you call him Lucky too.
This video below isn't to show off his goal scoring, just to remind you that he plays similar and can do what Kane does in terms of link up play, playing back to goal and mobility around the pitch. It just goes unnoticed for some reason as if he is just some brainless wilderbeast that's all physique and no intelligence where as Kane is this master thinker and all rounder.



This video reminds me a Darren Bent at Sunderland. Lots of good finishes in the box and goals scored on the break. I'll be surprised in one of the big teams in the Prem go for him. If he moves, I think he'll have to go the PSG.
 
"By miles" may not be fair to Lukaku, but the way I would rephrase it that Kane would be a clearly preferable addition to United than Lukaku.

Fellaini has incredible "physical attributes" but what that really accomplish for us? Very little.

Kane is a fantastic striker of the ball and doesn't need to rely on physical attributes, a perishable quality, to beat his defender. I wouldn't mind having both players on the squad, Lukaku as Kane's backup, but since we have promising young talents in Martial and Rashford (and maybe Wilson comes good) there's no need for us to bring in Lukaku as well as Kane.

But Kane isn't coming to United and if we're short on other options (no Zlatan, etc.), Lukaku would be an acceptable fallback option to strengthen the forward line.
That's fair enough. Like we can't get a Suarez but we can get a Drogba kinda thing? Actually no that's probably a too far. We can't get a Shearer but we can get an Andy Cole. We can't sign an Henry but we can sure sign Van Nistelrooy.
 
This video reminds me a Darren Bent at Sunderland. Lots of good finishes in the box and goals scored on the break. I'll be surprised in one of the big teams in the Prem go for him. If he moves, I think he'll have to go the PSG.
The video wasn't aimed to highlight his goals as there are far better videos showing his finishing. It is his ability to link play with his team-mates bring them in and create chances for them which is on a different level to Bent.
 
The video wasn't aimed to highlight his goals as there are far better videos showing his finishing. It is his ability to link play with his team-mates bring them in and create chances for them which is on a different level to Bent.

I know it doesn't fit with the current narrative, but Lukaku's best season in Prem football was when he was at WBA. That's when he scored 17 goals in just 2000 mins. But WBA averaged just 46% possession, which is ideal for a player like Lukaku or Bent. This is his best season at Everton and it's no surprise that it's when they've had the lowest average possession since he's been there and in the final third, they have the 4th lowest possession stats in the league. I see him being less effective in a possession team and so far his career has shown that.
 
That's fair enough. Like we can't get a Suarez but we can get a Drogba kinda thing? Actually no that's probably a too far. We can't get a Shearer but we can get an Andy Cole. We can't sign an Henry but we can sure sign Van Nistelrooy.

Not to derail the train of thought too much but the problem for us is, as always, Rooney. I don't think he's got it any longer but what if he's been out of form this season due to injury and he really does have one or maybe even two fantastic seasons left him? He's getting long overdue rest right now, allegedly due to injury, but maybe management upstairs realized that Rooney needed a long break from football to get his head and mind back together for one last run next season as he winds down his contract? With the current contract he's on I don't see any club being interested in him except for a Chinese league club and I don't see the Rooney family being interested in that. At least not right now.

I would absolutely be in favor of bringing in Lukaku the strengthen the depth of our forward line and have him serve in the rotation with Rooney, Martial and Rashford.

But if there were any way at all to bring in Kane we'd have to do it. He's a special talent who only does one thing -- score goals -- but that one thing he does is a quality we desperately need. Martial and Rashford can provide the athleticism, creativity and scoring ability of their own but they're not yet in the same class as Kane as goal scorers. And if Rooney were to somehow pull himself together for one last assault on the league trophy, oh my.
 
I know it doesn't fit with the current narrative, but Lukaku's best season in Prem football was when he was at WBA. That's when he scored 17 goals in just 2000 mins. But WBA averaged just 46% possession, which is ideal for a player like Lukaku or Bent. This is his best season at Everton and it's no surprise that it's when they've had the lowest average possession since he's been there and in the final third, they have the 4th lowest possession stats in the league. I see him being less effective in a possession team and so far his career has shown that.
He scored 19 in all comps that season and 20 in all comps last season and 25 in all comps this season. Everton played possession football each season so I don't quite get that.