19 league goals, top of the scoring list. Great player. Fergie would definitely try to get him
Kane without a doubt IMO. Lukaku is good, but Kane is a lot better on the ball and has more to his game, while Lukaku I feel is more of a target man without having the overall hold up and build up play that Kane has.Great player, no question about it.
Question: Who's the better striker, him or Lukaku? Same age, almost identical numbers this season.
Hard to pick one for me. I've watched more of Kane, and think he might edge it for me right now. But I also have this feeling that Lukaku could yet have another level in him, becoming nigh on unplayable (insert lazy Drogba-at-his-peak comparison to illustrate). Either way, I think it's hard to pick one of the two right now, and it's a coin toss who will go on to become the better player in time.
For United, I think Lukaku's a far more realistic target, even though I believe we should go all out to get England's star man (which I believe Kane will be for the next five plus years).
I guess Lukaku's goalscoring abilities are more lauded because he has the larger sample size, maybe? He did it at Anderlecht at a young age, then had two successful loans at both West Brom and Everton before his permanent move and picked up where he left off, whilst Kane has only had two - albeit very fruitful - scoring seasons. I think it may also just be more of a stylistic thing - Kane isn't necessarily slow, but a lot less mobile than Lukaku so it does give the impression to many that he's more of a link-up man, whilst Lukaku can come across to the neutral as a more physical threat willing to run in and finish off attacks that he lets those behind him create.It's ironic that Kane always gets praised for being better on and with the ball than Lukaku and Lukaku is praised for being more of a goalscorer yet Kane has better conversion rate stats this season and Lukaku has better chance creation stats. Obviously stats aren't the be all and end all but i don't think there is much between them, if anything at all. I think we are incredibly lucky to have two of the most complete young strikers in the world in the league right now with barely any negatives to their respective abilities.
they are very complete it's amazing for their age, and spot on they are very similar, both great headers, Lukaku edges Kane in body strength and hold up play even though Kane's great at it as well, Lukaku is a bit faster, Kane works a bit harder and is better shooter from longer range and maybe a bit better in terms of positioning, the ball always seem to find him but overall they are very similar and I don't think there is no real difference in dribbling quality, Lukaku's ball ability is underrated on the ball IMO, he's just so massive and might look a bit clumsy but he's pretty good dribbler.It's ironic that Kane always gets praised for being better on and with the ball than Lukaku and Lukaku is praised for being more of a goalscorer yet Kane has better conversion rate stats this season and Lukaku has better chance creation stats. Obviously stats aren't the be all and end all but i don't think there is much between them, if anything at all. I think we are incredibly lucky to have two of the most complete young strikers in the world in the league right now with barely any negatives to their respective abilities.
That's impressive whatever way you look at it. Kane has a big future ahead.Kane is now Spurs highest ever league goals-scorer in a single season in the Prem era. He already matches Rooney's total to date of 20+ league goal seasons (two), and has now matched the same total of 20+ seasons achieved by Aguero, RvP, Drogba.
There are only four players in the history of the Premier League who have hit that 20-goal mark more than twice in their careers: Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Les Ferdinand ... but not one of them had done it even once by the same age.
Kane is better than Lukaku on the ball but he's incredibly selfish so doesn't create all that much.It's ironic that Kane always gets praised for being better on and with the ball than Lukaku and Lukaku is praised for being more of a goalscorer yet Kane has better conversion rate stats this season and Lukaku has better chance creation stats. Obviously stats aren't the be all and end all but i don't think there is much between them, if anything at all. I think we are incredibly lucky to have two of the most complete young strikers in the world in the league right now with barely any negatives to their respective abilities.
I think he creates a lot. His hold up play and lay offs are streets ahead of Lukaku's.Kane is better than Lukaku on the ball but he's incredibly selfish so doesn't create all that much.
His hold up play is quality, but not his lay offs, especially this season. After holding the play up he'd rather create space for the shot, even if its at an unfavourable distance than put someone in. Precisely the reason his numbers are low in terms of chance creation and assists.I think he creates a lot. His hold up play and lay offs are streets ahead of Lukaku's.
Kane is now Spurs highest ever league goals-scorer in a single season in the Prem era. He already matches Rooney's total to date of 20+ league goal seasons (two), and has now matched the same total of 20+ seasons achieved by Aguero, RvP, Drogba.
There are only four players in the history of the Premier League who have hit that 20-goal mark more than twice in their careers: Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Les Ferdinand ... but not one of them had done it even once by the same age.
I'm confused by your first paragraph. Have they all scored 20+ league goals twice? Very impressive from Kane when the other players probably featured in better teams.
Apart from being stronger I don't see an area where Lukaku is better than Kane. Kane all day long.
Despite these attributes he has 1 assist to Lukaku's 6 and less chances created for team mates? I agree he is more versatile but don't underestimate Lukaku's impact on his teammatesthey are very complete it's amazing for their age, and spot on they are very similar, both great headers, Lukaku edges Kane in body strength and hold up play even though Kane's great at it as well, Lukaku is a bit faster, Kane works a bit harder and is better shooter from longer range and maybe a bit better in terms of positioning, the ball always seem to find him but overall they are very similar and I don't think there is no real difference in dribbling quality, Lukaku's ball ability is underrated on the ball IMO, he's just so massive and might look a bit clumsy but he's pretty good dribbler.
I would like Kane more as he seems a bit more versatile, creative, intelligent has a bit of vision too, I believe he could play as goalscoring no10 or as a second striker as well ,whereas lukaku is just a targetman, that beast up front. Realistically we have now very little chance to get him. Lukaku is just waiting to be snatched, I think he's no benteke
Why is it by miles? His work rate is the only aspect that perhaps is vastly superior and that may be offset by Lukaku's superior physical attributes. Kane has far more goals from set pieces also including 5 penalties. Kane is as overrated as Lukaku is underrated. I feel Kane is better but most certainly not by miles.Kane by miles over Lukaku, but I don't see Kane being a realistic target for United. Harry genuinely loves his club, which WILL be in the CL next season and he's got a great thing going with his manager. There's simply no reason for Harry to leave Spurs for United.
Why is it by miles? His work rate is the only aspect that perhaps is vastly superior and that may be offset by Lukaku's superior physical attributes. Kane has far more goals from set pieces also including 5 penalties. Kane is as overrated as Lukaku is underrated. I feel Kane is better but most certainly not by miles.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. As someone pointes out, Kane link up leads to zilch opportunites for his team mates and no assists so it seems kind of fruitless. Lukaku is bigger and as strong in the air. Their dribbling is marginally different in standard. And Kane has probably scored no more screamers than Lukaku. They score similar goals. I like the way you call him Lucky too.Kane is comfortably better. He's a better dribbler, his link up play is far superior, his range of finishing is higher, his first touch is better, and he works harder for the team.
I rate Lukaku but think he'd suffer more than Kane with playing against stubborn defences in a United shirt. Lucky requires a more direct style of play, whereas Kane is comfortable with waiting for his moments and even drops off a little to get more involved when necessary. He's good with his back to goal and run the channels well.
Kane is now Spurs highest ever league goals-scorer in a single season in the Prem era. He already matches Rooney's total to date of 20+ league goal seasons (two), and has now matched the same total of 20+ seasons achieved by Aguero, RvP, Drogba.
There are only four players in the history of the Premier League who have hit that 20-goal mark more than twice in their careers: Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Les Ferdinand ... but not one of them had done it even once by the same age.
How many did Bale get?
He scored 20+ league goals (21 in fact) in his last season at Spurs, but that was the only time.
Why is it by miles? His work rate is the only aspect that perhaps is vastly superior and that may be offset by Lukaku's superior physical attributes. Kane has far more goals from set pieces also including 5 penalties. Kane is as overrated as Lukaku is underrated. I feel Kane is better but most certainly not by miles.
Suarez?Bales last season at spurs is still probably the most impressive run of form ive seen in the prem for a very long time.
Bales last season at spurs is still probably the most impressive run of form ive seen in the prem for a very long time.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. As someone pointes out, Kane link up leads to zilch opportunites for his team mates and no assists so it seems kind of fruitless. Lukaku is bigger and as strong in the air. Their dribbling is marginally different in standard. And Kane has probably scored no more screamers than Lukaku. They score similar goals. I like the way you call him Lucky too.
This video below isn't to show off his goal scoring, just to remind you that he plays similar and can do what Kane does in terms of link up play, playing back to goal and mobility around the pitch. It just goes unnoticed for some reason as if he is just some brainless wilderbeast that's all physique and no intelligence where as Kane is this master thinker and all rounder.
That's fair enough. Like we can't get a Suarez but we can get a Drogba kinda thing? Actually no that's probably a too far. We can't get a Shearer but we can get an Andy Cole. We can't sign an Henry but we can sure sign Van Nistelrooy."By miles" may not be fair to Lukaku, but the way I would rephrase it that Kane would be a clearly preferable addition to United than Lukaku.
Fellaini has incredible "physical attributes" but what that really accomplish for us? Very little.
Kane is a fantastic striker of the ball and doesn't need to rely on physical attributes, a perishable quality, to beat his defender. I wouldn't mind having both players on the squad, Lukaku as Kane's backup, but since we have promising young talents in Martial and Rashford (and maybe Wilson comes good) there's no need for us to bring in Lukaku as well as Kane.
But Kane isn't coming to United and if we're short on other options (no Zlatan, etc.), Lukaku would be an acceptable fallback option to strengthen the forward line.
The video wasn't aimed to highlight his goals as there are far better videos showing his finishing. It is his ability to link play with his team-mates bring them in and create chances for them which is on a different level to Bent.This video reminds me a Darren Bent at Sunderland. Lots of good finishes in the box and goals scored on the break. I'll be surprised in one of the big teams in the Prem go for him. If he moves, I think he'll have to go the PSG.
The video wasn't aimed to highlight his goals as there are far better videos showing his finishing. It is his ability to link play with his team-mates bring them in and create chances for them which is on a different level to Bent.
That's fair enough. Like we can't get a Suarez but we can get a Drogba kinda thing? Actually no that's probably a too far. We can't get a Shearer but we can get an Andy Cole. We can't sign an Henry but we can sure sign Van Nistelrooy.
He scored 19 in all comps that season and 20 in all comps last season and 25 in all comps this season. Everton played possession football each season so I don't quite get that.I know it doesn't fit with the current narrative, but Lukaku's best season in Prem football was when he was at WBA. That's when he scored 17 goals in just 2000 mins. But WBA averaged just 46% possession, which is ideal for a player like Lukaku or Bent. This is his best season at Everton and it's no surprise that it's when they've had the lowest average possession since he's been there and in the final third, they have the 4th lowest possession stats in the league. I see him being less effective in a possession team and so far his career has shown that.