The Spurs thread

SirHenryPercy said:
You could turn it round and say Utd fans are up their own arses when having not looked like challenging for 3 years they will suddenly be doing so if they employ Mourinho?

Or you could simply think it's just different people having different opinions.
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Well Utd have a history of competing and Mourinho does too. Adding the two together most people would come to that general conclusion.
On the same night that you shit the bed on your first title chance in how long? You're dismissing a Utd team led by Mourinho as nothing to worry about. I'd say that's being rather bold.
 
Billy Blaggs said:
Well Utd have a history of competing and Mourinho does too. Adding the two together most people would come to that general conclusion.
On the same night that you shit the bed on your first title chance in how long? You're dismissing a Utd team led by Mourinho as nothing to worry about. I'd say that's being rather bold.
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You do have a history of competing and winning, but you've looked very ordinary for the last 3 years, I think even the most loyal Utd fan would accept that, so history is just that, history.

Mourinho might well come to Utd and make them champions next season, who knows, but if you ask me and it's just my opinion City will be the strongest side next season and I think Spurs and Liverpool are heading in the right direction.

One thing is for sure, we will all start on 0 points and then time will tell.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The best defence and best attack in the league says otherwise. But you certainly deserve your "possession football" under LvG. It's possessed you all the way to your 2nd finish outside the top 4 in 3 seasons, besides being boring as hell. But never mind, you can count all the money in the bank instead.
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City leading the way with 66 goals now mate ;)
 
Spurs have completely blown the one chance they had of winning the EPL. Next season the big boys will be back stronger and Spurs will revert to being the sad little feeder club they have always been.
 
SirHenryPercy said:
Reputation won't win anybody points, doesn't matter whether you are Barcelona or Accrington Stanley.
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That's my point. There's no telling Spur will maintain the level this season based solely on this season reputation.. Their players are not guaranteed to replicate the form. Everyone will go into new season from zero point.

So throwing out reputation, we're back to current resources, which Spur is small club compared to other top clubs. Spur doesn't have the same drawing power as other clubs. Proven better players and proven better coaches on paper already closed the gap on Spur. When reality kicks in, the pressure is much more on Spur due to expectation to maintain the level while other teams have the excuse of fine tuning their new built squad.

SirHenryPercy said:
You could turn it round and say Utd fans are up their own arses when having not looked like challenging for 3 years they will suddenly be doing so if they employ Mourinho?

Or you could simply think it's just different people having different opinions.

Madrid is the only realistic threat.
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The counter argument is Poch and Spur fluked it to second place. Spur has not challenged and won feck NONE for who knows how many years. How Spur suddenly come off as regular title challenger now? Let's have a look up at top of the table. Will you personally see Leicester stay there for the coming years ahead of Spur? Spur in the eye of fans of big clubs, is like Leicester in Spur fan at the moment.
 
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Stack said:
Spurs have completely blown the one chance they had of winning the EPL. Next season the big boys will be back stronger and Spurs will revert to being the sad little feeder club they have always been.
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:lol::lol:
 
SirHenryPercy said:
You do have a history of competing and winning, but you've looked very ordinary for the last 3 years, I think even the most loyal Utd fan would accept that, so history is just that, history.

Mourinho might well come to Utd and make them champions next season, who knows, but if you ask me and it's just my opinion City will be the strongest side next season and I think Spurs and Liverpool are heading in the right direction.

One thing is for sure, we will all start on 0 points and then time will tell.
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I didn't say you aren't heading in the right direction. But the way it's being put is as though you are the big dogs not worried about the usual big dogs because of one good season. I just find that to be extremely arrogant and nieve.
 
ti vu said:
That's my point. There's no telling Spur will maintain the level this season based solely on this season reputation.. Their players are not guaranteed to replicate the form. Everyone will go into new season from zero point.

So throwing out reputation, we're back to current resources, which Spur is small club compared to other top clubs. Spur doesn't have the same drawing power as other clubs. Proven better players and proven better coaches on paper already closed the gap on Spur. When reality kicks in, the pressure is much more on Spur due to expectation to maintain the level while other teams have the excuse of fine tuning their new built squad.



The counter argument is Poch and Spur fluked it to second place. Spur has not challenged and won feck NONE for ??? who knows how many years. How Spur suddenly come off as regular title challenger now? Let's have a look up at top of the table. Will you see Leicester stay there for the coming years?
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I still have literally no idea what you are trying to say.

The first sentence makes no sense at all, to be honest I gave up after that.
 
Billy Blaggs said:
I didn't say you aren't heading in the right direction. But the way it's being out is as though you are the big dogs not worried about the usual big dogs because of one good season. I just find that to be extremely arrogant and nieve.
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Big dogs? We aren't big dogs, not sure who are the big dogs to be honest.
 
SirHenryPercy said:
I still have literally no idea what you are trying to say.

The first sentence makes no sense at all, to be honest I gave up after that.
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No need to try to understand. Any fan of big clubs will understand.
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Big dogs? We aren't big dogs, not sure who are the big dogs to be honest.
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Winning feck none for more years than Arsenal, Liverpool, Citeh, and United combined up to this season and being big dog!

I rest my case.
 
ti vu said:
No need to try to understand. Any fan of big clubs will understand.

Winning feck none for more years than Arsenal, Liverpool, Citeh, and United combined up to this season and being big dog!

I rest my case.
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You get that case rested big dog, it was very well put whatever it was.
 
SirHenryPercy said:
You could turn it round and say Utd fans are up their own arses when having not looked like challenging for 3 years they will suddenly be doing so if they employ Mourinho?

Or you could simply think it's just different people having different opinions.
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Not all of us, i dont think we'll improve much under Jose at all. You'll finish higher than us next season.
 
Leicester have been the best team for me so it would have been a bit of a shame to see Spurs win it (although they are the only other team you can make any kind of case for). THe difference for me is Leicester have responded well to bad results or pressure. Spurs when they really had their chance did a bit of a Spurs and started finding ways to not win games. Even tonight...a win would have made next week very interesting, so of course they were going to draw.

lem8sh said:
Can't see them losing any of the core members of their squad. Their players ala Kane, Alli, Rose, Eriksen, etc can only improve.
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I don't think any of them bar Alli will improve that much...although in Kane's case he just needs t keep up what he has been doing and it wont matter. They need to sign players if they want to be up there again next season. Good ones.

It's been a weird season and realistically City, Arsenal and even United and Chelsea COULD have better teams than them next season...if they strengthen correctly themselves though it does make it interesting. It's just, there's still this thing where because it's Spurs I expect the opposite to happen...I still half expect them too find a way of finishing outside the CL places.

SteveJ said:
Seriously though, it's a shame both Leicester and Spurs can't win the title, as both have been excellent.
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Nah, it isn't. The Spurs fans at work have been exceptionally annoying.

SirHenryPercy said:
We aren't 2nd yet, we still realistically need 4 points for that and 2 to finish top 3.
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Can't see you doing worse than 2nd. Arsenal wont win all their games now they've managed to put themselves under pressure again (somehow), and City still have the CL to deal with. I'd think United could end up ahead of both of them except for the fact United almost certainly still have at least one circus clown performance left in them yet as well.

The only two teams who've been reliable consistency wise at any point all season are Leciester and Spurs, and that's why they're the top two. I don't think anyone else has really been that close. City or Arsenal when they turn up...but both have alsso had a tendancy to play like pub sides quite often.

SirHenryPercy said:
You could turn it round and say Utd fans are up their own arses when having not looked like challenging for 3 years they will suddenly be doing so if they employ Mourinho?

Or you could simply think it's just different people having different opinions.
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Nah, when you consider what Mourinho did at Chelsea this season, it's definitely the insertion into arse thing! The only thing bringing in Mourinho guarantees is that more of your season than necessary will be dedicated to annoying Arsene Wenger.
 
RedSky said:
Alternatively we might all continue to struggle and Spurs continue to improve...
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Or both struggles...

Can go either 3 options. One thing for sure, we have more resource to turn it around and with the right manager, we have much more drawing power to pull better players, thus more likely to improve than Spur when it comes to that.

Spur for all the glamour they received recently for their young players, has not won anything for years. So in reality Spur has been worse than Liverpool, Arsenal and us in recent years. No serious player would like to sacrifice his whole careers being bottlers while staying at not so glamour clubs beside young players honing their skills for bigger clubs.
 
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ti vu said:
Or both struggles...

Can go either 3 options. One thing for sure, we have more resource to turn it around and with the right manager, we have much more drawing power to pull better players, thus more likely to improve than Spur it comes to that.
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Not sure tbh. Alot depends on us finishing in the CL, Spurs only need 1 or 2 new players while we'll probably buy in half a new team again. We are still miles behind what Spurs has achieved this season and their style of play. They have an exciting young manager with an exciting and successful young team.

Youd think Moyes/Van Gaal era would be a reality check for our fans and yet here you guys are assuming Jose will fix all our problems. Its laughablly optimistic. Spurs are a better run club than us and far more stable, common sense tells me they'll come back stronger next year.
 
RedSky said:
Alternatively we might all continue to struggle and Spurs continue to improve...
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alternatively yes but I dont believe that Arsenal will finish below spurs again, Chelsea and City will also be higher with new managers, all have better squads and we will not feck up as we did with a new manager or even Van Gaal, Spurs will start to struggle with champions league football. I give pochettino a lot of credit and I think they get better but still have a lesser chance to make top 4 than the usual candidates.. not mentioning Liverpool. Leicester is a one big wonder this season but they have no chance do it again
 
m1y2 said:
alternatively yes but I dont believe that Arsenal will finish below spurs again, Chelsea and City will also be higher with new managers, all have better squads and we will not feck up as we did with a new manager or even Van Gaal, Spurs will start to struggle with champions league football. I give pochettino a lot of credit and I think they get better but still have a lesser chance to make top 4 than the usual candidates.. not mentioning Liverpool. Leicester is a one big wonder this season but they have no chance do it again
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Arsenal? Their entire club is in turmoil. Chelses will have a new manager and will need significant signings to make them competitive again. We're in the same boat as Chelsea, while Liverpool at least seem to be improving their football and will be settled with Klopp ready to make his moves. City will have huge changes too, lots of ins and outs.

I honestly have no idea how people think all of these teams will catch up to the level Spurs have achieved this year. Theyve only lost 4 times this year and have a very good track record against the 'big dogs'. Honestly the PL is changing, people need to wise up, their isnt going to be the usual suspects dominating anymore.
 
RedSky said:
Not sure tbh. Alot depends on us finishing in the CL, Spurs only need 1 or 2 new players while we'll probably buy in half a new team again. We are still miles behind what Spurs has achieved this season and their style of play. They have an exciting young manager with an exciting and successful young team.

Youd think Moyes/Van Gaal era would be a reality check for our fans and yet here you guys are assuming Jose will fix all our problems. Its laughablly optimistic. Spurs are a better run club than us and far more stable, common sense tells me they'll come back stronger next year.
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Thing is people forget: Spur has been nothing better than Arsenal or Liverpool and us in term of achieving. Challenging and winning the thing are 2 different things apart. Those teams keep saying "we're just this amount of players away to win something", but when they did get the players, other problem popped up. There is no telling most of Spur players will keep up the level they're on now. A dip form from Alli or Kane or whoever can see them dropping so far in the more competitive season.

We're talking about Spur here and Poch who first time challenging for a trophy, not SAF's United who maintained a certain level in the league year after year.

RedSky said:
Arsenal? Their entire club is in turmoil. Chelses will have a new manager and will need significant signings to make them competitive again. We're in the same boat as Chelsea, while Liverpool at least seem to be improving their football and will be settled with Klopp ready to make his moves. City will have huge changes too, lots of ins and outs.

I honestly have no idea how people think all of these teams will catch up to the level Spurs have achieved this year. Theyve only lost 4 times this year and have a very good track record against the 'big dogs'. Honestly the PL is changing, people need to wise up, their isnt going to be the usual suspects dominating anymore.
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What turmoil? They won FA Cup last year and haven't failed to qualify for CL for years. Spur didn't do much better than many of Arsenal trophyless seasons. Everyone is OTT about Arsenal situation because of Spur being Arsenal direct city rival. Arsenal is consistent where they're for several years.

You talk about changing, rate Klopp changes, but then unsure about Chelsea & Citeh changes, yet again you rate Spur level that high (?) that you don't see the other clubs catch up and overcome? If anything, Citeh & Chelsea are underperforming. The core players of both that clubs are on the same level or IMO even above of Spur's. If thing goes well with management changes, they can pretty much put Spur back down very soon. Even Liverpool, Arsenal and us can.

Spur will get the pressure they have never experienced come next season where they're expected to replicate this season form. It's a different beast altogether for them as they going into this season without much pressure. This factor alone is where flavor of the month is separated from a truly winner. As of now the jury is still out for Spur.
 
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RedSky said:
Arsenal? Their entire club is in turmoil. Chelses will have a new manager and will need significant signings to make them competitive again. We're in the same boat as Chelsea, while Liverpool at least seem to be improving their football and will be settled with Klopp ready to make his moves. City will have huge changes too, lots of ins and outs.

I honestly have no idea how people think all of these teams will catch up to the level Spurs have achieved this year. Theyve only lost 4 times this year and have a very good track record against the 'big dogs'. Honestly the PL is changing, people need to wise up, their isnt going to be the usual suspects dominating anymore.
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You honestly think that things will stay similar to the way they are now, despite United, Chelsea and City's resources? listen to what you're saying.
 
RedSky said:
Arsenal? Their entire club is in turmoil. Chelses will have a new manager and will need significant signings to make them competitive again. We're in the same boat as Chelsea, while Liverpool at least seem to be improving their football and will be settled with Klopp ready to make his moves. City will have huge changes too, lots of ins and outs.

I honestly have no idea how people think all of these teams will catch up to the level Spurs have achieved this year. Theyve only lost 4 times this year and have a very good track record against the 'big dogs'. Honestly the PL is changing, people need to wise up, their isnt going to be the usual suspects dominating anymore.
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Probably just as we do not expect Leicester to be there next year.

If anything, this was the year for Spurs and Arsenal, or anybody else, to really challenge. Spurs did far better than expected, and credit where credit is due they are where they are on merit. Chelsea, United, and Liverpool have under achieved, City and Arsenal lost focus, so really someone should have grabbed the opportunity. Looks like Leicester did.

Chelsea, United, Liverpool and City will all look to improve in defense and attack in the Summer. They may also look at midfield. They will all certainly be stronger. Feck knows what Arsenal will do, probably buy more potential in midfield. You then have the likes of WHU and Southampton likely to build on their squad. All in all, going to be a cracking season next year.
 
Leicester have made a mockery of predictions this season, so I wonder if we're wrong to write them off for next season's title.
 
Spurs would still be competing for top 4 next season though. The talents they have should only develop better. Their manager is decent as well.

You can expect leicester city would not be the same next season which is logical. But, Spurs should still be pretty strong if not stronger.

On paper, epl should be very interesting next season.
 
SteveJ said:
Leicester have made a mockery of predictions this season, so I wonder if we're wrong to write them off for next season's title.
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Yeah, it is quite interesting. I'd certainly be shocked if they manage to somehow do it again, but I don't think they'll completely fade away. If they retain the bulk of their squad, I can see them having a similar season to a team like Southampton or West Ham. There's no reason to suspect that players like Kante, Mahrez and others won't continue to perform.
 
The United said:
Spurs would still be competing for top 4 next season though. The talents they have should only develop better. Their manager is decent as well.

You can expect leicester city would not be the same next season which is logical. But, Spurs should still be pretty strong if not stronger.

On paper, epl should be very interesting next season.
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Aye, this was a fantastic chance for them this season, but they'll continue to do well next year. The big sides will improve with their new managers, but I doubt any of them will be completely formidable, and Spurs have the advantage of a settled side with a manager who now seems to really know what he's doing and has ingrained a good style of play into them. They'll continue to contend and pose a threat.
 
RedSky said:
Arsenal? Their entire club is in turmoil. Chelses will have a new manager and will need significant signings to make them competitive again. We're in the same boat as Chelsea, while Liverpool at least seem to be improving their football and will be settled with Klopp ready to make his moves. City will have huge changes too, lots of ins and outs.

I honestly have no idea how people think all of these teams will catch up to the level Spurs have achieved this year. Theyve only lost 4 times this year and have a very good track record against the 'big dogs'. Honestly the PL is changing, people need to wise up, their isnt going to be the usual suspects dominating anymore.
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:lol: okay

there is no reason to think that EPL is not changing but one fluke season like this doesnt mean that Spurs are all of a sudden ahead of the usual big teams which will spend money and come stronger after a horrible season for them. It will certainly be more entertaining though
 
Shark said:
You honestly think that things will stay similar to the way they are now, despite United, Chelsea and City's resources? listen to what you're saying.
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Most of the world class players are already at massive clubs so even the usual big teams are going to struggle to find talent. Just look at the footballers we have and the ones we have been linked with, they don't inspire thoughts of a quick turnaround. If we're struggling for answers, then so will Chelsea, City and Arsenal. We've been throwing money at this issue ever since Moyes destroyed us, yet have barely improved. What people are missing is that the staying power of Spurs at the top is for real cause these resources that the big clubs rave about count for naught if there's little you can do with them. Even these extremely high profile managers cant turn turds into diamonds, and Pochettino is a hell of a manager himself.

If spurs make the right moves in the summer they should be right up there again. Dier, Lamela and Eriksen are players that can be improved in that front six without too much hassle, and their back five is an extremely good one. What Spurs understand now is that the talent is in the youth and not some proven blokes who've proven nothing. Their manager loves working with young players and given the sort of young talent with huge upside they're gonna be a threat.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Man. Utd have declined to become an EL-Level club, whilst Spurs will be playing the Champions' League. Your "nothing club" has the taste of sour grapes.
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Remind me when did you last play in the CL?
 
The highest you've finished is 4th and you've only managed that twice. Yet now we're supposed to believe after this topsy turvy season that you're the team is the future and we also rans that are going to be in the wilderness for the foreseeable future.

You fecked up your best ever chance at the league title.

Blackburn has more titles than you.

Yet you're lauding it over like you just clinched your second in two years. God knows what you'd be like if you actually win it.
 
Typical of Spurs fans, thinking they are the dogs bollocks when they have achieved feck all yet. Will be hilarious when they drop down to their level. BTW, I really like their players, their manager and their playing style but, boy do their fans make the best effort to make you want to hate them.
 
Bestie07 said:
Typical of Spurs fans, thinking they are the dogs bollocks when they have achieved feck all yet. Will be hilarious when they drop down to their level. BTW, I really like their players, their manager and their playing style but, boy do their fans make the best effort to make you want to hate them.
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Same thought. I think of their team highly out of the bunches of Citeh, Arsenal, Scousers, Chelsea,... At time even wanted them to win the league when Leicester showed sign of being caught up. They just helped making our mind that they're actually Gooners in white shirt.
 
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Bestie07 said:
Typical of Spurs fans, thinking they are the dogs bollocks when they have achieved feck all yet. Will be hilarious when they drop down to their level. BTW, I really like their players, their manager and their playing style but, boy do their fans make the best effort to make you want to hate them.
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they and arsenal fans were made for each other
 
It must be painful that in a year where ManUtd and Chelsea were a hot mess, City had a lame-duck manager, Arsenal was still being all Arsenal-like, and they have the best goal difference only to come in 2nd to Lester.

I mean, that's really got to hurt.
 
SirHenryPercy said:
We deserve top 4, we deserve 2nd which is where we will likely finish and that's pretty bloody good. We came up a little bit short at certain moments in the season but what really done for us was our terrible start. To overhaul nearly all of the league after that start is pretty impressive, we were 10-12 points behind some of them at one point or another.

We can be proud of our team and especially the brand of football that we've played.
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I think a lot of people have just been wound up by Glaston hence all the insults directed. People still fall for his stuff way too easily,although at times they provoke him then lose their minds when he responds just as harshly.

As for Spurs,you more than deserve top 4. You've played amazing football this season,supplemented by a young English core of players that you have developed. That's something United fans used to pride themselves with in the past,and its something we'd love again to be honest. We at times have just been shambolic this season,although amazingly somehow we still have a chance for 4th.
 
Spurs have got much to be proud of. Funny thing is, if it wasn't for Leicester City, theirs would have been the story of the season.

That being said, I reckon they'll do well next season, with a decent chance of making top 4. Leicester probably not. Just my gut feel.
 
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