Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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I don't think he deserves the Balon D'or atm, Suarez has been better IMO. Ronaldo is top scorer in the CL though (with 4 assists). Lewandowski is 2nd with 9 goals (and 1 assist). That is very impressive and will certainly put him in contention for it (and deservedly so). If he has a very strong September, October and November on top of his excellent CL campaign, he could win it.
 
Don't get me wrong I don't mind Ronaldo or Messi. I think both are amazing players. But I can't understand the love he gets here every time. Every year there are rumours about him coming back like the lost son and that he is an United legend, but he simply isn't. He is a Madrid legend and he does not care about us anymore. Why should he? He has no connection here anymore, all his old team mates are gone or have retired and Fergie isn't our coach anymore. Besides Real is a much better team than us currently.

His behaviour is disgusting. He makes all about himself and doesn't care about his team mates. His celebration for the 4:1 in 2014 was more than awkward and yesterday was nearly the same idiocy. He celebrates himself like he has won the game and than he runs to the camera and makes his childish shout, that's so awkward. Kahn said it perfectly yesterday by asking, if the other 4 scorers from Madrid were not important because they scored their penalties also. He is such a douchebag.

In my eyes no one deserves the ballon currently. I think the Copa America and the Euros will decide who will get it. At this time Suarez deserves it the most. It was not CR7 best year imo. He wasn't outstanding to his standards. Same with Messi.

Don't want that you guys get me wrong. CR7 is the second best player behind Messi. I don't like both much, I don't mind them tbh. But Ronnies behaviour is awkward and disgusting at times. Yeah and Bale gets bashed for nothing, I think he is an amazing player, too, same like Neymar. Excepted both to flop, both proved me wrong though.
 
Don't get me wrong I don't mind Ronaldo or Messi. I think both are amazing players. But I can't understand the love he gets here every time. Every year there are rumours about him coming back like the lost son and that he is an United legend, but he simply isn't. He is a Madrid legend and he does not care about us anymore. Why should he? He has no connection here anymore, all his old team mates are gone or have retired and Fergie isn't our coach anymore. Besides Real is a much better team than us currently.

His behaviour is disgusting. He makes all about himself and doesn't care about his team mates. His celebration for the 4:1 in 2014 was more than awkward and yesterday was nearly the same idiocy. He celebrates himself like he has won the game and than he runs to the camera and makes his childish shout, that's so awkward. Kahn said it perfectly yesterday by asking, if the other 4 scorers from Madrid were not important because they scored their penalties also. He is such a douchebag.

In my eyes no one deserves the ballon currently. I think the Copa America and the Euros will decide who will get it. At this time Suarez deserves it the most. It was not CR7 best year imo. He wasn't outstanding to his standards. Same with Messi.

Don't want that you guys get me wrong. CR7 is the second best player behind Messi. I don't like both much, I don't mind them tbh. But Ronnies behaviour is awkward and disgusting at times. Yeah and Bale gets bashed for nothing, I think he is an amazing player, too, same like Neymar. Excepted both to flop, both proved me wrong though.

Strange that most of his team mates only have good things to say about him. I find it strange that people base their opinions purely on how a player acts in the 90 minutes on the pitch.

I also noticed when they lifted the trophy, he was actually standing at the very back.
 
He'll always be a divisive figure because of his will to win. He acts the way he acts because he simply cannot accept not being the best. That's as admirable as it is utterly annoying.

He was awful yesterday. Zidane said he was 100% fit which effectively removed any excuse for him but he looked absolutely knackered and then he got the injury in the tackle with Gabi and he was struggling to walk after that (he got Gabi back though with almost exactly the same foul, they should really be punished more often).

Knew full well he'd be the one to take the fifth because he wants the headline glory but honestly, I'd rather we had players with such desire to win and be the best in our team than what we've got now. We've got a meek bunch of individuals and none of them strike fear in the opposition. Ronaldo was awful yesterday but part of that was Atletico marking him out of the game. We don't have anyone (Martial aside going off the FA Cup final) that anybody would bother trying to mark out of a game.

He's been there when Real needed him throughout the CL this season, even when he had to contend with Benitez and his shite tactics. His performance at home against Wolfsburg was magnificent and it was clear it was him dragging his team to the win that they needed. Do we have anybody that could do that?

We deride people with unshakeable confidence in themselves because it's not seen as a desirable quality but in reality, it's what we all aspire to have. It's only really jealousy and decorum that dictates it's not a good thing.
 
Strange that most of his team mates only have good things to say about him. I find it strange that people base their opinions purely on how a player acts in the 90 minutes on the pitch.

I also noticed when they lifted the trophy, he was actually standing at the very back.
I find it strange when people base their opinions on interviews. Saying something wrong about Ronaldo must be the fastest way to get yourself out of the team.

I think he only cares about his goals. And winning trophies, so that's Ok from a fan point of view.
 
I find it strange when people base their opinions on interviews. Saying something wrong about Ronaldo must be the fastest way to get yourself out of the team.

I think he only cares about his goals. And winning trophies, so that's Ok from a fan point of view.

That is literally the entire point of football.
 
Strange that most of his team mates only have good things to say about him. I find it strange that people base their opinions purely on how a player acts in the 90 minutes on the pitch.

I also noticed when they lifted the trophy, he was actually standing at the very back.

I've meant on the pitch. It's well know that he has a good character in the changing room. His behaviour in those 90 minuets, when he does not celebrate when others score for example. He is a good sportsman behind the scene but on the pitch he is awkward at times.
 
That is literally the entire point of football.
Of course it is, and also not a point of this discussion.

Currently he's the best striker in the world but I don't enjoy his game anymore.

I've meant on the pitch. It's well know that he has a good character in the changing room. His behaviour in those 90 minuets, when he does not celebrate when others score for example. He is a good sportsman behind the scene but on the pitch he is awkward at times.
And that's the important part. It's like you have this guy at work who is annoying, but acts like your best buddy when you meet him somewhere in the city.
 
I find it strange when people base their opinions on interviews. Saying something wrong about Ronaldo must be the fastest way to get yourself out of the team.

I think he only cares about his goals. And winning trophies, so that's Ok from a fan point of view.
Am also basing my opinion on what those who work with him have to say about him.
 
I think years after no one will remember who played "well" in final, unless the player has a dominating game that no one could forget. But everyone will remember who scored the winner in final and who is the top goalscorer of the tournament though. Sadly that's going to be the case.

Well sure, that's understandable enough.

But likewise few will remember who scored the winning penalty in this shoot-out either. Usually the ones who miss are remembered the most, wouldn't you say? I can easily remember Baggio, Terry and Ramos and their "iconic" misses, but the decisive penalties? Hell, be honest, did you know that Antonín Panenka's "panenka" was the winning penalty in the shoot-out in the 1976 Euro Final against the then reigning European champs West-Germany? I doubt there's many today who are familiar with the context of it and that's about as iconic a pen as you'll get at such a stage...



Further on topic. Media ratings of his performance.

Dailymail
Ronaldo, 7
Worked as hard as Bale in tracking back every time Real lost possession but over-elaborated too often most tellingly just before Atletico scored. Still ended up the hero.


Independent
Cristiano Ronaldo: 5 out of 10
Quiet in the extreme. Caught for free-kick but left duties to Bale and was off the pace throughout. Wasted two chances before Atletico’s leveller and had weak headed effort easily caught by Oblak in extra time.


Mirror
Cristiano Ronaldo 5 – Was he on the pitch? Did not do much apart from miss a relatively simple chance.
Somehow he had the last laugh - and lost his shirt in the process.


BBC
(courtesy of Jermaine Jenas apparently)
Cristiano Ronaldo (forward) 6
Did not do much throughout the game but ended up scoring the winning penalty for his third Champions League title.


Mundo Deportivo
CRISTIANO 1 star out of 5
Afortunado : Tuvo nulo contacto con el balón, bastante menos que el que encontró Bale. Tras una final invisible para el portugués, se quedará sin duda con la foto del partido, al marcar el penalti decisivo.
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Lucky : Barely touched the ball, far less than Bale. After an invisible final by the Portuguese he will undoubtedly stay in the picture of the match by scoring the decisive penalty.


La Vanguardia
Cristiano (5)
(casi)invisible : Desaparecido durante 120 minutos, cada balón que tocó era una pérdida para su equipo. Sin embargo, convirtió el penalti decisivo que le da su tercera Champions.
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(near-)invisible : Gone missing for 120 minutes, each ball he touched was a loss for his team. However, he converted the decisive penalty that gave him his third CL.


AS
Cristiano, 1 ace out of 4
Extrañamente impreciso en los controles. No tuvo su mejor día. No se le puede achacar nada a la hora de ayudar al equipo a defender. Perdonó una ocasión ante Oblak por intentar hacer una filigrana y hacerlo más bonito en lugar de efectivo. Falló ocasiones en las que no suele perdonar.Marcó el penalti decisivo y dio la Undécima.
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Strangely imprecise controls on the ball. Didn't have his best day. Can't be faulted when it came to defending for the team. Wasted a chance against Oblak by trying to make his mark with something cute instead of being effective. Failed on chances he usually doesn't. Scored the decisive penalty and delivered the 11th CL.


L'Equipe
C. RONALDO : 3
Comment dire ? Agaçant semble le terme le plus juste. Pendant longtemps avec ses coups du foulard, ses passes aveugles et ses ballons gardés, il a été loin du niveau qu’on lui connaît. Un tout petit peu mieux sur la fin malgré, là encore, quelques gourmandises coupables (78e). Il n’a pas tremblé pour marquer le tir au but décisif. La lumière qu’il apprécie.
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How to describe it ? Annoying seems the most correct word. For a long time in this match with his rabonnas, his blind passes and his safe balls, he was far from the level we know him to be capable of. A little bit better near the end despite, once more, being guilty of some misplaced cuteness (78th minute). He didn't tremble when scoring the decisive kick. He likes the spotlight.


FourFourTwo (magazine)
Cristiano Ronaldo - His match-winning penalty should not overshadow a disappointing performance from a player who did not look to be at full fitness. 5


ESPN
FW Cristiano Ronaldo, 6 -- Michael Cox wrote this week that Ronaldo needed a career-defining performance. This wasn't it. Was he 100 percent fit? It's doubtful. Should Zidane have replaced him before extra time? Absolutely. The Portuguese rarely threatened and seemed just a yard or two off the pace from the outset. His one decent chance was fired straight at Oblak and a half-chance from a header deflected onto a defender and into the grateful arms of the Atletico keeper. Still, Ronaldo was needed to finish things off and did so, although he might have kept the shirt on this time.


BT Sport
CRISTIANO RONALDO: Quiet and largely ineffective, outshone in all departments by Bale. Scored the winning penalty in the shoot-out. 6.


Couldn't find anything from the Guardian, Times, Marca, etc.
My Spanish and French translations were a bit hasty so if any native speakers want to correct, feel free!
 
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I'm happy for him, he deserves it and another Ballon D'or, maybe not this season but in general he's been one of the greatest of all time missing out on Ballon D'ors to the greatest of all time.

He was absolute shite and invisible for the entire game though :lol:
 
Will win the Balon D'Or because of the CL win now. Not that is how it should work but the voters of the awards in the past makes me predict this.
 
He definitely won't be happy that he's won the La Liga just once.

Wow, I didn't know this.

He definitely wont be happy with that. 1 in 7 is pretty bad for his standards. For us he got 3 in 6, in a time that had Arsenal's Invincibles and Mourinho's first Chelsea team. He may have peaked in terms of skill while playing for Real, but in terms of trophies and honors he had it better in Manchester imo.
 
Taking the 5th penalty despite probably being their main penalty taker just about sums him up.:lol:
 
Well sure, that's understandable enough.

But likewise few will remember who scored the winning penalty in this shoot-out either. Usually the ones who miss are remembered the most, wouldn't you say? I can easily remember Baggio, Terry and Ramos and their "iconic" misses, but the decisive penalties? Hell, be honest, did you know that Antonín Panenka's "panenka" was the winning penalty in the shoot-out in the 1976 Euro Final against the then reigning European champs West-Germany? I doubt there's many today who are familiar with the context of it and that's about as iconic a pen as you'll get at such a stage...



Further on topic. Media ratings of his performance.

Dailymail
Ronaldo, 7
Worked as hard as Bale in tracking back every time Real lost possession but over-elaborated too often most tellingly just before Atletico scored. Still ended up the hero.


Independent
Cristiano Ronaldo: 5 out of 10
Quiet in the extreme. Caught for free-kick but left duties to Bale and was off the pace throughout. Wasted two chances before Atletico’s leveller and had weak headed effort easily caught by Oblak in extra time.


Mirror
Cristiano Ronaldo 5 – Was he on the pitch? Did not do much apart from miss a relatively simple chance.
Somehow he had the last laugh - and lost his shirt in the process.


BBC
(courtesy of Jermaine Jenas apparently)
Cristiano Ronaldo (forward) 6
Did not do much throughout the game but ended up scoring the winning penalty for his third Champions League title.


Mundo Deportivo
CRISTIANO 1 star out of 5
Afortunado : Tuvo nulo contacto con el balón, bastante menos que el que encontró Bale. Tras una final invisible para el portugués, se quedará sin duda con la foto del partido, al marcar el penalti decisivo.
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Lucky : Barely touched the ball, far less than Bale. After an invisible final by the Portuguese he will undoubtedly stay in the picture of the match by scoring the decisive penalty.


La Vanguardia
Cristiano (5)
(casi)invisible : Desaparecido durante 120 minutos, cada balón que tocó era una pérdida para su equipo. Sin embargo, convirtió el penalti decisivo que le da su tercera Champions.
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(near-)invisible : Gone missing for 120 minutes, each ball he touched was a loss for his team. However, he converted the decisive penalty that gave him his third CL.


AS
Cristiano, 1 ace out of 4
Extrañamente impreciso en los controles. No tuvo su mejor día. No se le puede achacar nada a la hora de ayudar al equipo a defender. Perdonó una ocasión ante Oblak por intentar hacer una filigrana y hacerlo más bonito en lugar de efectivo. Falló ocasiones en las que no suele perdonar.Marcó el penalti decisivo y dio la Undécima.
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Strangely imprecise controls on the ball. Didn't have his best day. Can't be faulted when it came to defending for the team. Wasted a chance against Oblak by trying to make his mark with something cute instead of being effective. Failed on chances he usually doesn't. Scored the decisive penalty and delivered the 11th CL.


L'Equipe
C. RONALDO : 3
Comment dire ? Agaçant semble le terme le plus juste. Pendant longtemps avec ses coups du foulard, ses passes aveugles et ses ballons gardés, il a été loin du niveau qu’on lui connaît. Un tout petit peu mieux sur la fin malgré, là encore, quelques gourmandises coupables (78e). Il n’a pas tremblé pour marquer le tir au but décisif. La lumière qu’il apprécie.
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How to describe it ? Annoying seems the most correct word. For a long time in this match with his rabonnas, his blind passes and his safe balls, he was far from the level we know him to be capable of. A little bit better near the end despite, once more, being guilty of some misplaced cuteness (78th minute). He didn't tremble when scoring the decisive kick. He likes the spotlight.


FourFourTwo (magazine)
Cristiano Ronaldo - His match-winning penalty should not overshadow a disappointing performance from a player who did not look to be at full fitness. 5


ESPN
FW Cristiano Ronaldo, 6 -- Michael Cox wrote this week that Ronaldo needed a career-defining performance. This wasn't it. Was he 100 percent fit? It's doubtful. Should Zidane have replaced him before extra time? Absolutely. The Portuguese rarely threatened and seemed just a yard or two off the pace from the outset. His one decent chance was fired straight at Oblak and a half-chance from a header deflected onto a defender and into the grateful arms of the Atletico keeper. Still, Ronaldo was needed to finish things off and did so, although he might have kept the shirt on this time.


BT Sport
CRISTIANO RONALDO: Quiet and largely ineffective, outshone in all departments by Bale. Scored the winning penalty in the shoot-out. 6.


Couldn't find anything from the Guardian, Times, Marca, etc.
My Spanish and French translations were a bit hasty so if any native speakers want to correct, feel free!

Back in 1976 I wasn't born yet.... but I still remember some penalty winning moment, such as VDS penalty save which won us the CL. And for other team I still remember Drogba scored the winner in penalty shootout for Chelsea few years ago, its hard to forget those moment.
 
Super Viva goes ballistic, Estonia are atrocious.
 
Really hope he can continue this form in the tournament. Two great goals today, albeit against weak opposition.
 
He will crown this embarrasing performance with a goal isn't he? I can't believe how bad he is tonight, picking worst possible options in every single attack, even his touch is letting him down.
 
He will crown this embarrasing performance with a goal isn't he? I can't believe how bad he is tonight, picking worst possible options in every single attack, even his touch is letting him down.

He does this for RM in almost all their games. The only difference is that RM create volumes of chances for him. Then people go after every game "he didn't play well, but at least he scored", then the cycle is repeated over and over again till the end of the season. He posts 50+ goals then people forget his performances and go "he scored 50+ again, he's the best player in the world!". Put any great GS in his position they would post similar numbers. Suarez scored 59 goals in a super team. Put RvN, Batigol, R9 and even Inzaghi and they would post similar numbers. Great goal scorer, but nowhere near being the best player in the world if analysed objectively.
 
He does this for RM in almost all their games. The only difference is that RM create volumes of chances for him. Then people go after every game "he didn't play well, but at least he scored", then the cycle is repeated over and over again till the end of the season. He posts 50+ goals then people forget his performances and go "he scored 50+ again, he's the best player in the world!". Put any great GS in his position they would post similar numbers. Suarez scored 59 goals in a super team. Put RvN, Batigol, R9 and even Inzaghi and they would post similar numbers. Great goal scorer, but nowhere near being the best player in the world if analysed objectively.
I quite agree. It's absolutely nonsense to suggest he's the best in the world. His general play is sorely lacking time and time again, and when the team isn't playing well he just doesn't have it in him to turn things around by himself. If he isn't getting chances put on a plate for him then he basically spends his time trying to be the hero himself by taking pot shots and attempting to dribble past several defenders, which he's not very good at.

These days he's not much more than a great poacher. That is great when you play in a team like Real Madrid and chances are aplenty. If he were in our team last season he'd have done well to reach 20 goals.
 
I quite agree. It's absolutely nonsense to suggest he's the best in the world. His general play is sorely lacking time and time again, and when the team isn't playing well he just doesn't have it in him to turn things around by himself. If he isn't getting chances put on a plate for him then he basically spends his time trying to be the hero himself by taking pot shots and attempting to dribble past several defenders, which he's not very good at.

These days he's not much more than a great poacher. That is great when you play in a team like Real Madrid and chances are aplenty. If he were in our team last season he'd have done well to reach 20 goals.

Exactly. His level of play since the 11/12 season is no higher than RvNs 45 goal season for Manchester United but noone in their right frame of mind would say he is one of the all time greats. One of the greatest goal scorers for certain, like CR but not on the level of the absolute elite. Watch him score now and then people would forget how anonymous he was. The ability to dominate games is what makes players like Pele, Di Stefano, Cruijff, Messi and Maradona the 5 kings. CR just isn't capable of that especially against the very top sides.
 
Not a great night for him. When he created stuff, he put things on a plate though. Nani should shoulder the blame for wasting so many chances as he could have put the game to bed twice over but there's no glossing over how Ronaldo wasn't all that good either.

Like watching Sweden with Zlatan, they're so handicapped with that clear star player that they look for him at all times. When it goes well, it's the differential between most and the percentage game every manager would take but when it doesn't, the players seem to forget how to function on their own again.
 
Very bad match for him. He's a decisive player. Clinical? Nah.
 
He does this for RM in almost all their games. The only difference is that RM create volumes of chances for him. Then people go after every game "he didn't play well, but at least he scored", then the cycle is repeated over and over again till the end of the season. He posts 50+ goals then people forget his performances and go "he scored 50+ again, he's the best player in the world!". Put any great GS in his position they would post similar numbers. Suarez scored 59 goals in a super team. Put RvN, Batigol, R9 and even Inzaghi and they would post similar numbers. Great goal scorer, but nowhere near being the best player in the world if analysed objectively.

Agree with this.

Phenomenal goalscorer. Possibly the greatest ever. That's about it. His overall impact on the game and his team is minimal.
 
Not a great night for him. When he created stuff, he put things on a plate though. Nani should shoulder the blame for wasting so many chances as he could have put the game to bed twice over but there's no glossing over how Ronaldo wasn't all that good either.

Like watching Sweden with Zlatan, they're so handicapped with that clear star player that they look for him at all times. When it goes well, it's the differential between most and the percentage game every manager would take but when it doesn't, the players seem to forget how to function on their own again.

To be fair Ronaldo missed a big chance himself.
 
Not a great night for him. When he created stuff, he put things on a plate though. Nani should shoulder the blame for wasting so many chances as he could have put the game to bed twice over but there's no glossing over how Ronaldo wasn't all that good either.

Like watching Sweden with Zlatan, they're so handicapped with that clear star player that they look for him at all times. When it goes well, it's the differential between most and the percentage game every manager would take but when it doesn't, the players seem to forget how to function on their own again.
No way should Nani shoulder the blame. He was miles better than Ronaldo, who also missed good chances. At least Nani put one away and actually offered something to the team.
 
Not a great night for him. When he created stuff, he put things on a plate though. Nani should shoulder the blame for wasting so many chances as he could have put the game to bed twice over but there's no glossing over how Ronaldo wasn't all that good either..

Nani was their best player, what on Earth were you watching.

Ronaldo spurned the best chance to win it from Nani's cross, an absolute sitter. Nani scored and created, missed one chance he should of scored.

Ronaldo ruined attack after attack by being a selfish feck.
 
Not a great night for him. When he created stuff, he put things on a plate though. Nani should shoulder the blame for wasting so many chances as he could have put the game to bed twice over but there's no glossing over how Ronaldo wasn't all that good either.

Like watching Sweden with Zlatan, they're so handicapped with that clear star player that they look for him at all times. When it goes well, it's the differential between most and the percentage game every manager would take but when it doesn't, the players seem to forget how to function on their own again.

What?

He was absolutely terrible tonight, ruined so many attacks because of his selfishness. He stops the 3 on 3 counter attack because he refuse to pass the ball and wants to shot from 40m free kick. He created one chance in the entire game and ruined around 100. Nani put the similar cross for him which he wasted.

Portugal actually played really well anytime he wasn't involved, as soon as the ball reaches him he ruined the attacj.

He was their worst attacking player by a mile.
 
He doesn't have the same quality around him like at Madrid. He's not getting chances left right and centre and have his team mates sacrificing themselves for him.

Still a great goalscorer to be fair to him but he's a very over rated player.
 
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